(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[The Overgoat]

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My only complaint is they include Stray on that 11 Gold Unit
I heard he is not that great even after AW
Maybe should have Kojuro in that 11 GU
Or any other GU

Since I don't have Bashira (mumble-grumble-mumble) I have Stray in my main team. He's decent, though obviously if you have both Spica and Bashira, you'll have little use of him. However, he's is really good to have in male-only maps, while Kojuro is all-around useless (unless he has some useful post-AW ability or skill): samurai units are not all that essential to be begin with and Akane (who is available for DC) makes Kojuro completely obsolete.

 

[Shyao]

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Wow, these drop rates feel especially low. I just went through 18 Stamina so far and I only have two of three drops from the first map. And I don't have any SCs to refill my stamina, so... are they cycling out each map on a per day basis or are they just adding one more mission per day?

 

[Orion]

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Is Cuterie any good? I already have Betty and I know she's better, but I'm curious if there's any point in investing much in Cuterie since I was thinking if she wasn't really worth it I'd just level her to 30, CC her, then just leave her in sortie.

 

[Nattorei]

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Since I don't have Bashira (mumble-grumble-mumble) I have Stray in my main team. He's decent, though obviously if you have both Spica and Bashira, you'll have little use of him. However, he's is really good to have in male-only maps, while Kojuro is all-around useless (unless he has some useful post-AW ability or skill): samurai units are not all that essential to be begin with and Akane (who is available for DC) makes Kojuro completely obsolete.

Samurais gain melee AoE on AW. Not only do they block three and attack all three simultaneously, but they can also hit unblocked enemies if they are close.

Stray is life.

Wow, these drop rates feel especially low. I just went through 18 Stamina so far and I only have two of three drops from the first map. And I don't have any SCs to refill my stamina, so... are they cycling out each map on a per day basis or are they just adding one more mission per day?

Adding. All the maps will stay open until the end of the event. Rates are bad, but that's how it was in the early times. At least the maps are cheap.

Is Cuterie any good? I already have Betty and I know she's better, but I'm curious if there's any point in investing much in Cuterie since I was thinking if she wasn't really worth it I'd just level her to 30, CC her, then just leave her in sortie.

Cuterie gets a ranged attack for her AW skill, but if you aren't going that far with her then she is the worst Rogue. They all depend on fast attacks with assassinate and unless you spend the resources for her AW skill, her recovery skill doesn't cut it. Although her affection bonus goes from 2% to 4% on AW, so she is still useful in that regard.

 

[Shyao]

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Cheap, yes, but when I just used up 28 Stamina on 14 runs of the first map and I'm still missing the Gold spirit... that's not setting a good expectation for me.

 

[Orion]

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Cuterie gets a ranged attack for her AW skill, but if you aren't going that far with her then she is the worst Rogue. They all depend on fast attacks with assassinate and unless you spend the resources for her AW skill, her recovery skill doesn't cut it. Although her affection bonus goes from 2% to 4% on AW, so she is still useful in that regard.

Yeah, I was just looking at her AW Skill and being able to get a range attack sounds nice, but I wasn't sure if it'd be worth it or not plus there's the thing of if I can even get her to 5/5 as RNG is a cruel mistress (I'm still surprised I got Karma to 5/5 with a random Rainbow Fairy). I guess that settles it I'll just level her to 30, CC her, stick her in sortie forever while leveling her up every so often until she's maxed and when the time comes AW her, though Betty, Cypria, and who knows whatever useful Rogues I might get in the future will be much higher priority than her of course.

Edit: whoops, almost forgot I'll need to max Aff her as well since that's a requirement.

 

[khawk016]

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gold rush hype !!!! i knew they had to give us one soon

 

[exkale]

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Samurais gain melee AoE on AW. Not only do they block three and attack all three simultaneously, but they can also hit unblocked enemies if they are close.

Nope. This is false. They will only hit enemies they are blocking. Any nearby enemies passing through unblocked will not be attacked.

 

[Sashas]

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Yeah, I was just looking at her AW Skill and being able to get a range attack sounds nice, but I wasn't sure if it'd be worth it or not plus there's the thing of if I can even get her to 5/5 as RNG is a cruel mistress (I'm still surprised I got Karma to 5/5 with a random Rainbow Fairy). I guess that settles it I'll just level her to 30, CC her, stick her in sortie forever while leveling her up every so often until she's maxed and when the time comes AW her, though Betty, Cypria, and who knows whatever useful Rogues I might get in the future will be much higher priority than her of course.

Edit: whoops, almost forgot I'll need to max Aff her as well since that's a requirement.

Thats a bad idea really, she's not all that strong but there will be times when you use her, generally when you make a small mistake.
I've had to use her many times when I shouldn't have but have brought her due to her passive, its not worth wasting 20 levels on anything you're gonna bring for events.

Also her and Betty would be the same priority, Cypria despite being a better rogue would be far lower than the pair of them.

 

[Orion]

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Thats a bad idea really, she's not all that strong but there will be times when you use her, generally when you make a small mistake.
I've had to use her many times when I shouldn't have but have brought her due to her passive, its not worth wasting 20 levels on anything you're gonna bring for events.

Also her and Betty would be the same priority, Cypria despite being a better rogue would be far lower than the pair of them.

I don't know about that, I mean I don't even use Betty either and I've been getting along fine without her....actually I don't even remember the last time I even used or needed a Rogue, not saying of course I might need her in the future just so far pretty much every event that came out I've never needed Betty/a Rogue and even if I did make a small mistake I usually have other units for that depending on the map. Not quite sure what you mean on the "not worth wasting 20 levels on anything you're gonna bring for events" I don't really plan on putting her in a sortie for events anyway unless there's a map with affection items in it.

While the increase to 4% sound nice I feel like Cypria's 15% chance of true damage far outweighs that so I don't know about Cuterie being on the same priority as Betty.

 

[Nattorei]

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Nope. This is false. They will only hit enemies they are blocking. Any nearby enemies passing through unblocked will not be attacked.

Then I might have been misguided. Hoping that my informants can shed light on the matter.

 

[Xine]

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I don't know about that, I mean I don't even use Betty either and I've been getting along fine without her....actually I don't even remember the last time I even used or needed a Rogue, not saying of course I might need her in the future just so far pretty much every event that came out I've never needed Betty/a Rogue and even if I did make a small mistake I usually have other units for that depending on the map. Not quite sure what you mean on the "not worth wasting 20 levels on anything you're gonna bring for events" I don't really plan on putting her in a sortie for events anyway unless there's a map with affection items in it.

While the increase to 4% sound nice I feel like Cypria's 15% chance of true damage far outweighs that so I don't know about Cuterie being on the same priority as Betty.

The point of bringing Cuterie along on any map that has an affection item drop is the sole reason you would bring her, which you also mentioned that yourself. Say you make a mistake and need a quick low-cost fix for it, Cuterie would be there in your team to do just that. "Wasting 20 levels" would be CCing her at lv30 instead of lv50, so you're missing out on that 20 levels of attributes.

The point of working on Betty is because she's one of the few, easy to get Gold Get units on Aigis, due to our not getting Noel it's even more worth it to 50cc Betty and Awaken her when we get it. It's not a point of being useful for events so much as she will help make Awakening future units easier (something about 200k, 250k, and 300k gold to Awaken plus costs of leveling), the same reason with Cuterie (can't Awaken a girl unless she's 100% affection, +2/4%), and Monica as well (that +3/5% chance at Demon Crystal drop rate when 100DC are needed for the Awakening Fairy.) Not trying to sound rude or anything, but those are the main reasons why the 3 aforementioned units are highly recommended for players to Awaken ASAP.

Cypria may be the stronger Rogue between the three you are talking about, but she has no effect on the rate of Awakening.

Personally, I have Berna, possibly the best Rogue in Aigis, but I plan on Awakening Betty > Cuterie > Monica since I have all 4 of them, assuming of course that Awakening does not get restricted to Black rarity only on its release on Nutaku.

 

[Sashas]

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I don't know about that, I mean I don't even use Betty either and I've been getting along fine without her....actually I don't even remember the last time I even used or needed a Rogue, not saying of course I might need her in the future just so far pretty much every event that came out I've never needed Betty/a Rogue and even if I did make a small mistake I usually have other units for that depending on the map. Not quite sure what you mean on the "not worth wasting 20 levels on anything you're gonna bring for events" I don't really plan on putting her in a sortie for events anyway unless there's a map with affection items in it.

While the increase to 4% sound nice I feel like Cypria's 15% chance of true damage far outweighs that so I don't know about Cuterie being on the same priority as Betty.

Cyprias 15% chance of true damage is quite niche over something that simply deals good physical or magic damage.

Lots of event maps have had affection items so I haven't even bothered to take Cuterie out of my main team for low level event maps, She still gets put in my custom team for the higher level maps if affection items are present.

Unless you're perfect Cuterie is perfect for little mistakes and you will end up using her far more than any of the stronger and better rogues. Betty isn't really used unless you plan it out and so couldn't be used in emergency and would be a waste of a slot.

To put it another way, I've used Cuterie far more often than Karma, I wouldn't want to use Karma to block a single goblin even though she could, thats not to say Cuterie doesn't get put down to block far harder things.

 

[Orion]

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The point of bringing Cuterie along on any map that has an affection item drop is the sole reason you would bring her, which you also mentioned that yourself. Say you make a mistake and need a quick low-cost fix for it, Cuterie would be there in your team to do just that.

I understand that I actually have made some mistakes time to time, however like I mentioned I do have back up low cost units for whenever I make a mistake anyway so it wouldn't really matter much, heck most of the time I have like 3-4 units left over. The only time I made an extremely critical mistake was when my thumb accidentaly slipped off when placing Leeanne so I placed her extremely prematurely and even if I had Cuterie it wouldn't fix the outcome because I specifically needed an HA at that time.

"Wasting 20 levels" would be CCing her at lv30 instead of lv50, so you're missing out on that 20 levels of attributes.

That's kinda what I thought they meant, but they kind of worded their sentence oddly.

The point of working on Betty is because she's one of the few, easy to get Gold Get units on Aigis, due to our not getting Noel it's even more worth it to 50cc Betty and Awaken her when we get it. It's not a point of being useful for events so much as she will help make Awakening future units easier (something about 200k, 250k, and 300k gold to Awaken plus costs of leveling), the same reason with Cuterie (can't Awaken a girl unless she's 100% affection, +2/4%), and Monica as well (that +3/5% chance at Demon Crystal drop rate when 100DC are needed for the Awakening Fairy.) Not trying to sound rude or anything, but those are the main reasons why the 3 aforementioned units are highly recommended for players to Awaken ASAP.

I kinda knew all that already, that's the reason why I'm putting Betty at high priority, but thanks for the refresher. I remember when I first learned of AW's extreme costs way back when, that's pretty much why I started hoarding gold and stopped spending so much in 2k gatcha.

I suppose rethinking on AWing Cuterie with Betty might be good, but I'm still not sure on that 4% being much of a game changer, an increase is an increase sure but it ultimately all comes down to the almighty RNG.

Unless you're perfect Cuterie is perfect for little mistakes and you will end up using her far more than any of the stronger and better rogues. Betty isn't really used unless you plan it out and so couldn't be used in emergency and would be a waste of a slot.

To put it another way, I've used Cuterie far more often than Karma, I wouldn't want to use Karma to block a single goblin even though she could, thats not to say Cuterie doesn't get put down to block far harder things.

I wouldn't say I'm perfect, but in all honesty I've only had a few situations where I needed to use a low cost unit to block something and like I also mentioned I usually have back up units for that already on my sortie which sometimes I don't even use ending up with like 3-4 left over units.

 

[khawk016]

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just aim to get all and if it seems you cant forget male units there mostly shit compared to others even female silvers are better at times

 

[insanedar]

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Bad luck today, did 23 pulls without a single Plat. (Got 4 Strays, 3 Themis, 2 Yuyu, 1 Stella, 1 Conrad, 1 Cuterie)

Edit: Used 140 green crystals that I saved up for 6 silvers, 3 gold (Betty, Conrad, Iris), and 1 Plat Celia (What I have been wanting forever) all is forgiven!

 

[Larcx]

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just aim to get all and if it seems you cant forget male units there mostly shit compared to others even female silvers are better at times

You definitely haven't watched Gyojin3 Video
Male is also good , some of them have good AW skill
But yeah...... it really hard to do it
Pre AW Male is weaker compare to Silver

 

[5454]

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This was probably asked but is there a drop location on the map where certain drops are more likely to fall out when you kill a particular enemy at that spot?
I feel like there is but just wanted to know if that was the case as the gold rush is annoying me by not dropping a gold spirit.

Edit: go figure right after asking my next run drops me a gold spirit.

 

[anon423]

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This was probably asked but is there a drop location on the map where certain drops are more likely to fall out when you kill a particular enemy at that spot?

Drops are decided on server side, at start of the battle. Nothing you do during it, aside from missing to kill the enemy at all, could affect outcome.

 

[Larcx]

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Drops are decided on server side, at start of the battle. Nothing you do during it, aside from missing to kill the enemy at all, could affect outcome.

Probably he asked , what unit drop the Fairies

That is the Yellow Archer
First drop the Iron , Second drop the Silver , and the last one drop the Gold Fairy