(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[Karsuman]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

People don't leave Nutaku because DMM is ahead. That is NOT the reason I left Nutaku Aigis, that's for sure. They leave because the spirit of the original game is in large part lost and they want to experience it as it was intended. Slingshotting the event schedule would actually make this worse. A brief summary of complaints people generally have:

1) Inconsistent event schedule.

2) Out of order events.

3) Lack of additional DMM rewards/incentives/bonus events(Gold Rushes).

4) Lack of information/communication.

5) Random patching priority(Len has no attack up affection like she does on modern DMM, but Mikoto behaves like her modern DMM version... why exactly?)

6) Lack of specific units(obviously).



None of this will be rectified by jumping forward. In matter of fact, it exacerbates the problems of #1 and #2, and in effect, #3.

Also, most players that aren't uber whales would get trashed by the high-tier stages in modern events. Not gonna lie. Many events are designed with previous event units in mind.

Edit: Also, if you want to try running a unit farm and item collection event at the same time, be my guest, but you're crazy.

 

[Larcx]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Yeah... I only want them to give us event
Like 4 event in 5 week
Oh well I guess I will shut up

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Good thing I'm happy right now coz having sweet free account
And I will NAG My BANK A LOT!!!!!!
I can't seem to use My MasterCard on DMM , WHY!!!!!!! WHY!!!!!!????
Have You not need My money You DEMONES!!!!!

So much unit on TP "gasp"
Chydis , yada blablabla yada Trading Silver+100K to get Platinum Unit
MONSTER!!!!!!!! 1000 DC for a REAL BLACK KNIGHT!!!

OMFG BBQ WTH WTF ROFL @#$%^@#$%@#$%!!
There so much to do!!

Not only they give 1,5 EXP on combining , they also give 1,5 Gold
Now... combine them with 1,2 EXP and Gold

So what with constant event? Lv 1 fodder give about 70 EXP
Doing some low level commision map give Me around 3,5K Gold

Too bad My unit is underlv , so those Gold is vanish in a blink

Me: To DMM DEMONES , SHUT UP AND TAKE ALL MY MONEY!!!! PLEASE @_@

 

[Nirhael]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Trading Silver+100K to get Platinum Unit

Silver+100k for Silver, no Platinums to be obtained that way.

MONSTER!!!!!!!! 1000 DC for a REAL BLACK KNIGHT!!!

Rainbow Crystals, obtained by selling Gold+ Rarity units, Event units are nearly worthless(Golds are 1 RC each, Platinums are 3 RCs), Premium Blacks are worth 400. Don't expect to get that guy unless you're a serious whale, at least not until we get Rainbow Armours.

 

[Karsuman]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

premium golds are worth 20, plats are worth 100 and blacks are worth 400 actually.

I think faramble units are like 2-5 or something, I forget.

 

[Larcx]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Silver+100k for Silver, no Platinums to be obtained that way.


Rainbow Crystals, obtained by selling Gold+ Rarity units, Event units are nearly worthless(Golds are 1 RC each, Platinums are 3 RCs), Premium Blacks are worth 400. Don't expect to get that guy unless you're a serious whale, at least not until we get Rainbow Armours.

I see.... My mistake
Thanks for correcting it

WoW , that TSUNDERE ARMOR is playing Hard to get

 

[The Overgoat]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Opinions on JP and ENG aside, there is a basic point we face,

- A large part of what should be the ENG population is on JP server.

Just look at all the forums, be it here or hongfire or elsewhere, there are DMM threads full of people who should be ENG users.

And judging from post counts (bad measure I know, but still) half of what should/could be ENG is on DMM.

Simply put, ENG side will have issues with being viable as long as ENG is not slingshot to JP current content as it will bleed users to JP side.

The entire trailing JP 1 year, so that people can min/max each and every toon is entirely self-defeating, because a side effect is, that the ENG community will never reach the size and revenue it needs to get the attention and support of the devs and leave the "second rate" topic behind.

I honestly believe we should petition them for it, moaning over it sure wont work, and lets be honest, once devs are set, only major feedback will do anything (look at all games ever out there, see any dev giving in short of comminity size pressure?).

If bleeding to DMM version is not stopped, ENG will remain in shadows (well. short of a huge boost of ENG users, I suppose it could happen of course, not seeing from where though, users attract users, simple concept in all games, all played wow because all played wow etc).

I'd also claim that those ENG on DMM are most of the heavy users (higher probability of paying player), as they are the only ones that would be bothered to put up with the language issues etc (exceptions apply of course)

Jumping could bring people back and give one helluva boost to a good Aigis future.

(my apologies, if I sound like a broken record repeating about this topic, but it would be a game changer, in a good way, if we moved forward instead of being hooked on a toon in the past that we really want, and all the jump objections are honestly not valid, new DMM players face the same situation and cope, we'd still have our existing teams and loot ...

(and in a year? That new DMM player? who started with nothing, while we sat with our 50CC60 teams .. adding some older toon to it? He'll have a team that blows anything Nutaku side out of the water, while we still ponder when the awakening or next awakening will come )

You are looking at this from the wrong angle. Those people won't come back to the English version, unless they could transfer their account. Which they can't. Or do you seriously expect that they'd throw months, if not years of work and levelling out of the window just because now they can get the exact same game on Nutaku?

Suddenly jumping to the current events would be a suicide move from Nutaku at this point. First of all, aside of the top 1% premium players, everybody would be completely wrecked by the current JP events. I'm not playing on the JP server, but a good friend of mine does and seeing the kinda enemies he has to go up against... yeah, they would wipe the floor with my team. You could say that we could just get those units as freebies. Fine but unless we also get a few months worth of charisma, stamina, gold and SC with it, we'd be still crippled. And there's no way in hell, that the devs would ever give out this much free stuff exclusively to the western players. It would be a PR disaster on the JP side.

And without all of that, the current playerbase would be screwed, which would result in a mass exodus to the JP servers, if anything.

The Nutaku version is never going to catch up with the JP version. This much has been obvious for quite a while, so whoever couldn't accept this, left for the JP servers long ago. As for the missed events, now that the related characters are mostly cleared to go, we'll be getting them eventually. And frankly, I don't care about the order, as long as they can be done. And so far, every single one could be done by me, and I'm mostly a free player. If I can do it, others can do it as well. As for the new users, well, new users won't be able to fully complete events in the JP side either for months. And by slingshotting they would be screwed the worst.

 

[Sashas]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Oops, just did Crystal keeper H with my male only team and no Monica, Mortimer died and so I got 2*. I was sure my Lauren and Stray were gonna die but Robert and Christopher held onto them.

 

[khawk016]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

You are looking at this from the wrong angle. Those people won't come back to the English version, unless they could transfer their account. Which they can't. Or do you seriously expect that they'd throw months, if not years of work and levelling out of the window just because now they can get the exact same game on Nutaku?

Suddenly jumping to the current events would be a suicide move from Nutaku at this point. First of all, aside of the top 1% premium players, everybody would be completely wrecked by the current JP events. I'm not playing on the JP server, but a good friend of mine does and seeing the kinda enemies he has to go up against... yeah, they would wipe the floor with my team. You could say that we could just get those units as freebies. Fine but unless we also get a few months worth of charisma, stamina, gold and SC with it, we'd be still crippled. And there's no way in hell, that the devs would ever give out this much free stuff exclusively to the western players. It would be a PR disaster on the JP side.

And without all of that, the current playerbase would be screwed, which would result in a mass exodus to the JP servers, if anything.

The Nutaku version is never going to catch up with the JP version. This much has been obvious for quite a while, so whoever couldn't accept this, left for the JP servers long ago. As for the missed events, now that the related characters are mostly cleared to go, we'll be getting them eventually. And frankly, I don't care about the order, as long as they can be done. And so far, every single one could be done by me, and I'm mostly a free player. If I can do it, others can do it as well. As for the new users, well, new users won't be able to fully complete events in the JP side either for months. And by slingshotting they would be screwed the worst.

good points i can tell you if your team isnt mostly aw units you will lose in the current maps on jp side a single unit 1 shot my aw 40 spica with aw 99 oliver buff of 15% hp then took oliver down by half granted there both elves but still man thats scary

 

[Larcx]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Oops, just did Crystal keeper H with my male only team and no Monica, Mortimer died and so I got 2*. I was sure my Lauren and Stray were gonna die but Robert and Christopher held onto them.

LOL

Today...
I screwed
Was do Phalanx2 and 1'st team Yesterday before log off

Log in , got much Stamina do Toast to Men H
Only.... Gellius Prince Cyrus , no healer.
Good thing I manage to get 4 bronze chest
With 2 enemies slipping through
Atleast better than losing all that cha and sta for nothing

 

[nissebrygger]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

People don't leave Nutaku because DMM is ahead. That is NOT the reason I left Nutaku Aigis, that's for sure. They leave because the spirit of the original game is in large part lost and they want to experience it as it was intended. Slingshotting the event schedule would actually make this worse. A brief summary of complaints people generally have:

1) Inconsistent event schedule.

2) Out of order events.

3) Lack of additional DMM rewards/incentives/bonus events(Gold Rushes).

4) Lack of information/communication.

5) Random patching priority(Len has no attack up affection like she does on modern DMM, but Mikoto behaves like her modern DMM version... why exactly?)

6) Lack of specific units(obviously).



None of this will be rectified by jumping forward. In matter of fact, it exacerbates the problems of #1 and #2, and in effect, #3.

Also, most players that aren't uber whales would get trashed by the high-tier stages in modern events. Not gonna lie. Many events are designed with previous event units in mind.

Edit: Also, if you want to try running a unit farm and item collection event at the same time, be my guest, but you're crazy.

I see the points but do somewhat disagree, because it is a computer game and fully within the devs control. They define all aspects of it and the availability of everything in it.

There is also no content bottleneck. Which is usually the critcal constraint in any game and development. All the content has already been produced and is fully available. If the content was not existing, I would totally agree with you.

But, imo, there is no (showstopping) complexity in solving any of the issues or mitigating the effects for the players. None of it has to be game breaking or killing anyone off, there is plenty of choice if nothing else.

But it is a moot discussion really.

No information is available about what the developer intends with the Nutaku version or even if they intended anything /shrug or when (your #4) so I'll drop the discussion of it and simply note that the Aigis dev seems to be one of the JP firms that is determined not to inform its (ENG) audience (an not unheard of issue and one which one can take, play the game, or leave, keep ones time and money for other things)

I've been "lucky" and had an old DMM account which had accumulated 80 SC in gifts on DMM (I get that to around 5-6 a month in just plain mail box rewards doing nothing, an amazing level compared to Nutaku versions reward system and a good example of your point #3) so I have a reasonable choice of switching, which I will consider, there is a Wiki (google translate) and solid support on this boards other thread due to Petite's good translation work.

I would strongly prefer a version I could actually read, but well, DMM is what it is, which is JP.

I guess awakenings is the critical point really in some ways, if they rolled out all the awakening in short order it would elevate Nutaku version to a new level of content, which it sort of needs (not whining here, but all debates aside, it is more than a bit light on things to do, I have supported it with buying SC, but honestly that was simply to support firms that try bringing these games to an ENG audience, so that we dont end up in the JPN problem all the time. But I could easily just sit as freemium and still do all at the current pace, which cannot be what was intended by the business model of the game as it would mean there is no incentive to use money. not a sustainable setup).

Anyho, enough said. No more about that from my side.

 

[Karsuman]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

I see the points but do somewhat disagree, because it is a computer game and fully within the devs control. They define all aspects of it and the availability of everything in it.

There is also no content bottleneck. Which is usually the critcal constraint in any game and development. All the content has already been produced and is fully available. If the content was not existing, I would totally agree with you.

But, imo, there is no (showstopping) complexity in solving any of the issues or mitigating the effects for the players. None of it has to be game breaking or killing anyone off, there is plenty of choice if nothing else.

What? I said nothing about the devs or the dev's intentions, though. I was talking about the intent of players. It's pretty frickin obvious the devs don't care that much about keeping the game as it was originally designed, but some players(like me) sure do.

 

[RabbitJack]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

So, this has been asked before but I haven't seen an answer. To make the unit roster displays that many people have signature'd, is there an app for that or is that all creative screen-shot editing?

 

[Xine]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

So, this has been asked before but I haven't seen an answer. To make the unit roster displays that many people have signature'd, is there an app for that or is that all creative screen-shot editing?

Mine is "creative" screenshot editing and generally takes me about 20~30ish minutes when I update it depending on how much attention I pay to it instead of chatting with some people from my guild/union on another game. Speaking of....you've reminded me I need to update mine for Nutaku again soon....dammit.

 

[Sashas]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

So, this has been asked before but I haven't seen an answer. To make the unit roster displays that many people have signature'd, is there an app for that or is that all creative screen-shot editing?

Creative screenshot editing I think, All I do is printscreen my team 4 which shows unit cost, and copy and paste over and over till all my units are in the shot.

 

[nissebrygger]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

I believe microsoft has a decent 'snippet tool'

It allows you quickly to grab a part of your screen, ex. making a snippet of your current team should be really easy, like seconds, as it fits in one screen/snippet.

Example

You must be registered to see the links

Disclaimer, I have not tried it, but use something like it at work.

 

[Lafate]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

So, this has been asked before but I haven't seen an answer. To make the unit roster displays that many people have signature'd, is there an app for that or is that all creative screen-shot editing?

My is photoshop so...

Creative creation? Only thing taken from the game is unit images.

 

[nissebrygger]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

As we are closing in on the stage in every Aigis gamer's life where important questions are asked, such as,

- Does anyone know what event we'll get on tuesday?

I have without shame stolen the answer from

You must be registered to see the links

------ Copy ------

I've been told from a reliable source that we'll get,

* Awakenings, all of them, at the same time, as a reward for staying awake

* 11 SC bonus from the Gold Rush, yep, was all a bug in the code, we were supposed to get that reward too
- They are sorry about that code burp, so we'll get an extra SC as an matter of apology, yep, DMM reward style coming to Nutaku

* Clothed up lolis, yeaah ... wasnt meant to be an IOS only thing ... /faceplam, that'll teach us to not mix Sake and releases, all units will come to Nutaku version too!
- They are sorry about that release burp, so we'll get an extra SC to our extra SC as an matter of apology

* Multiple events at the same time, the extra events will be called pacification events and run for a month each.
-- The month runtime will allow all to max their units and the name is because each complaint over too much to do, will send a pacifier to the player's mail box to 3D print.
-- The pacificer will come with a serial code that you can turn in for a nendoroid-doll (tm) that is proven to reduce blood pressure, 99% better than 1 week breaks do, over things like only getting 9/10 skill on events units and like trauma, such as simply not having enough time to level that male copper unit for male-only maps, yes! we (Aigis) do care about your obsessive compulsive need to have the rest of the world wait for your levelling up needs.

* Even better, Any existing Nendoroid code willl in combination with this code, give you, our most-valued-customer, a super special code to the real Nutaku version that has the same content as the DMM version.
- Haha, yeees ... it was all just a joke /laugh, who would pay for an old lite version anyway, right!? /nudge /nudge /wink /wink Otakus eh /roll eyes. Welcome to the real Nutaku version and wave good bye to the chumps!

/bye

(You get an SC for that too btw)

------ Paste ------

Busy times ahead !

 

[Larcx]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

OK
FUCK!!
I really hope My Sybilla Nendoroid I Pre Ordered from Ami2 will be the first print edition
I PO at 2'nd day.......
Ow FUCK...... I hope My order was in the high list. Earliest order will have higher priorities
Since Ami2 said that they cannot guarantee that everyone order will have the code

 

[razisgosu]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

As we are closing in on the stage in every Aigis gamer's life where important questions are asked, such as,

- Does anyone know what event we'll get on tuesday?

I have without shame stolen the answer from

You must be registered to see the links

------ Copy ------

I've been told from a reliable source that we'll get,

* Awakenings, all of them, at the same time, as a reward for staying awake

* 11 SC bonus from the Gold Rush, yep, was all a bug in the code, we were supposed to get that reward too
- They are sorry about that code burp, so we'll get an extra SC as an matter of apology, yep, DMM reward style coming to Nutaku

* Clothed up lolis, yeaah ... wasnt meant to be an IOS only thing ... /faceplam, that'll teach us to not mix Sake and releases, all units will come to Nutaku version too!
- They are sorry about that release burp, so we'll get an extra SC to our extra SC as an matter of apology

* Multiple events at the same time, the extra events will be called pacification events and run for a month each.
-- The month runtime will allow all to max their units and the name is because each complaint over too much to do, will send a pacifier to the player's mail box to 3D print.
-- The pacificer will come with a serial code that you can turn in for a nendoroid-doll (tm) that is proven to reduce blood pressure, 99% better than 1 week breaks do, over things like only getting 9/10 skill on events units and like trauma, such as simply not having enough time to level that male copper unit for male-only maps, yes! we (Aigis) do care about your obsessive compulsive need to have the rest of the world wait for your levelling up needs.

* Even better, Any existing Nendoroid code willl in combination with this code, give you, our most-valued-customer, a super special code to the real Nutaku version that has the same content as the DMM version.
- Haha, yeees ... it was all just a joke /laugh, who would pay for an old lite version anyway, right!? /nudge /nudge /wink /wink Otakus eh /roll eyes. Welcome to the real Nutaku version and wave good bye to the chumps!

/bye

(You get an SC for that too btw)

------ Paste ------

Busy times ahead !

I actually read through bullet points 1 & 2 before realizing I was being completely trolled. I feel bad now. Fuck Aigis devs for not giving us those bonus SC though, seriously.

 

[khawk016]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

I actually read through bullet points 1 & 2 before realizing I was being completely trolled. I feel bad now. Fuck Aigis devs for not giving us those bonus SC though, seriously.

what extra sc are you talking about is my question some grs give bonus stuff for this and that but in the last gr on jp they didnt get any extra sc why do yall expect free shit around every corner ?