(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[kleem]

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Waiting on Stamina now, I'll post a pic of her in play later tonight.

I've got a decent stockpile of affection items, yeah. I just don't know that the folks at Aigis command would necessarily be moved to allow me to keep an unreleased unit just because I used a bunch of affection items.

For now, there does seem to be at least a bit of sprite info, as she is visible in the box. No portrait pic though.



Finally, a chance to finish off that Perfect Conrad I've been working on.

Yeah, that would actually be the worst.

Not saying it would be the thing that makes them let you keep her,but it adds up along with you lvling her up.

 

[Nattorei]

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Veterans grind manually pastoral gate with Get Gold for hours, go tell them they didn't actually need it.

Depends on the definition of veteran. I'm thinking of just people who've played a long time. I'm not thinking of the people who spend money, possibly whale status, who have a million units they want to AW and skill AW at any given time possibly while Basic summoning.

I have almost 5mil. I am dedicating every single piece of that to the eventual AW of everything; which will come slowly and gacha-less.

I'm really messing up with the quoting tonight, thanks for fixing them.

Mischa

So yes, she does sort of become a must-have because she's just that good.

Spica offers higher DPS though due to being an Elf, her passive also helps enormously for a multi-hit unit like Bashira. While I understand your reluctance to raise her due to the costs involved, you'll really want her AW ability.

Maybe the Gold issue is a bigger deal to me than others due to the fact that I'm patient enough to roll the 2k Shrine, not having Noel is one of the things I'm the most frustrated about on Nutaku. Just knowing that I could be getting 10% more Gold from practically everything irritates me.

The thing about Sophie is that I see her as either a decoy/ganker or as an early rush defender, with 30 seconds she should be able to hold back nearly everything and in the meantime you can set things up while she holds the frontlines.

I managed quite well without Mischa. I managed quite well without Valks period on both versions. My Kerry use on Nutaku was very rare.

She just doesn't appeal to me. Her defenses are low. She's a silver. Her attack, while certainly good for her cost, isn't spectacular. If I need UP, I have Soldiers.

I know Spica is amazing, but in a situation where I have two to three platinum archers already and I need a reliable third or a general fourth, I'll take the simple gold unit over spending two AWs worth of DC.

I can't say much more on the gold issue. Having Noel would be a boon, but gold is manageable without.

Two maps I can name that Sophie had problems proving useful on were a map with trolls that self-healed faster than Sophie dealt damage and a map with multiple exits and invisible thief enemies. She is still insane, but there were plenty of times where I wish I could have gimped her stats in exchange for permanent blocking.

 

[Nirhael]

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Depends on the definition of veteran. I'm thinking of just people who've played a long time. I'm not thinking of the people who spend money, possibly whale status, who have a million units they want to AW and skill AW at any given time possibly while Basic summoning.

I have almost 5mil. I am dedicating every single piece of that to the eventual AW of everything; which will come slowly and gacha-less.

I've been here since the beginning and I'll be going back to Pastoral Gate farming manually when I get my AWed units to a relatively decent level, which won't be long since we'll probably get a break soon.

I'm still sitting on nearly 6m, it'll probably drop down as low as 4m by the time I'm done with AW, but I want to roll 2k so that's why I want more Gold, not having Noel is... more than annoying.

I managed quite well without Mischa. I managed quite well without Valks period on both versions. My Kerry use on Nutaku was very rare.

She just doesn't appeal to me. Her defenses are low. She's a silver. Her attack, while certainly good for her cost, isn't spectacular. If I need UP, I have Soldiers.

I know Spica is amazing, but in a situation where I have two to three platinum archers already and I need a reliable third or a general fourth, I'll take the simple gold unit over spending two AWs worth of DC.

I can't say much more on the gold issue. Having Noel would be a boon, but gold is manageable without.

Two maps I can name that Sophie had problems proving useful on were a map with trolls that self-healed faster than Sophie dealt damage and a map with multiple exits and invisible thief enemies. She is still insane, but there were plenty of times where I wish I could have gimped her stats in exchange for permanent blocking.

Mischa's a mid-end duelist for players that start off, as I've stated previously, not having her forces you to have a stronger overall team, she can quite literally be the key that carries you through some maps.

I don't think I'll be convincing you about using Valkyries since nearly every class in the game is replaceable, most maps are easy enough that you don't need specific units to beat them after all. Though the fact that you don't use Kerry doesn't reflect much since she's a terrible unit pre-AW.

Even if you do have 2-3 Platinum Archers other than Spica, or actually because of the fact you do, she's still a better choice despite the cost due to the sheer power she offers by herself and with her AW. Whether you decide to or not is your decision, but she's a superior option in the end and the 200 Crystal cost is a better investment.

Sophie, like other special utility units, isn't good on gimmicky maps that don't allow her to do her job, it's really not surprising that she can't handle trolls and invisible thieves.

 

[Eab1990]

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Once again, Nat, the point is not "I could manage without these units, you could too!", the point is, "removing units considered essential to a freemium team AND buffing/"fixing" events to be harder" makes the game more gacha-reliant.

 

[Nattorei]

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Mischa's a mid-end duelist for players that start off, as I've stated previously, not having her forces you to have a stronger overall team, she can quite literally be the key that carries you through some maps.

I don't think I'll be convincing you about using Valkyries since nearly every class in the game is replaceable, most maps are easy enough that you don't need specific units to beat them after all. Though the fact that you don't use Kerry doesn't reflect much since she's a terrible unit pre-AW.

Even if you do have 2-3 Platinum Archers other than Spica, or actually because of the fact you do, she's still a better choice despite the cost due to the sheer power she offers by herself and with her AW. Whether you decide to or not is your decision, but she's a superior option in the end and the 200 Crystal cost is a better investment.

Sophie, like other special utility units, isn't good on gimmicky maps that don't allow her to do her job, it's really not surprising that she can't handle trolls and invisible thieves.

My argument is just that she isn't necessary, easily replaceable, and ultimately just a silver. And Kerry has proven useful, I have no idea why people call her terrible.

I didn't capitalize archer for a reason. Ricola and Daisy aren't Archers. While Spica is ultimately the "best" choice, I don't feel the need to do what is "best." I'd rather just be given Claire and save resources. If I absolutely need Spica, I can get her in the future. But during my six months, the only unit I bought with DC was Raichi. I didn't regret buying her and didn't regret not buying the plats.

That's kind of the point. Angels are specialty units. Their downtime is is a weakness and has to be accounted for. Not having Chloe isn't the biggest of deals.

 

[anon423]

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Two maps I can name that Sophie had problems proving useful on were a map with trolls that self-healed faster than Sophie dealt damage and a map with multiple exits and invisible thief enemies. She is still insane, but there were plenty of times where I wish I could have gimped her stats in exchange for permanent blocking.

That's not what you use angels for. Its like saying Katie cannot solo Mithril Golem therefore she sucks and not essential unit.

Recent examples where Chloe saved my ass in situation I couldn't handle with any other unit:
Gold Demon, the prime example why everyone absolutely must have at least one well-raised angel. You could try token-spam him, but just having Chloe on his way and absorb all his magic damage made it so much easier. People who didn't have angel were cussing very loud on various forums.
Magic City story arc. Once I figured Chloe could deal with wooden golems on her own and recharge skill fast enough to get back in time for another wave, 3* them all became trivial.
Jungle story arc, and orc events in general. She's saving my ass every time there, letting high orcs pass further to be killed with witches while shielding ranged units from throwers and mages and killing zakos reducing load on HAs who defend base points.
Furfur Majin map. I have no idea how I would handle Demon Mage or ranged Schythe Demons if not Chloe.

Also, its funny how you at same time claimed Yurina IS essenial unit while she's pretty much useless and doesn't have any niche to shine. She's my second AWed unit on DMM and out of everyone I AWed she got least amount of sorties.

 

[Xcellion]

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Pardon me for interrupting but curse you all for having millions of gold while I'm perpetually stuck at around 700,000. This is while I've been around since near the beginning of the English version.

With that out of the way, @Nattorei I'd like to point out that, other than the obvious reason of not having her, the others that are stressing on how Mischa is so important is because of her Heal skill, which lets her heal herself whenever she wants and not have to rely on Healers as much.

It's that, combined with high attack and low cost, that the others are praising her and saying that she is a very important unit to have.

That said, it's also worthy to note that the people who shout the strongest about her disappearance from our version are mainly the ones who played the DMM version first, got used to using certain units, and then were understandably pissed that the units that they were so used to using weren't there anymore and they had to actually think of new ways to do maps they could have easily done otherwise.

For those who played the Nutaku version first, when put in terms of gameplay, there's the moaning and groaning about units missing, but in the end, the care about the usability is just not as prominent considering they started with less and were able to do more with that.

Just look at the past few events we had. Revival level events, with the newest updated mechanics, while in possession of less units, were being cleared left and right even from those who weren't lucky enough to get Immortal Karma, Anya, or a gacha black, which is the majority here. Even then, people were clearing them even without using those units if they had them.

What I'm trying to say here is regardless of whether or not you find the missing units useful, others do, and they are supposed to be in the game, so it's better to not complain about the complainers complaining about not having the unit in the game. It's still annoying to sift through dozens of pages repeating the same argument over and over though.

On the topic of gold, again fuck y'all as not everyone is capable of getting into the millions like it's a walk in the park.

 

[Orion]

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If I recall, one of the strongest points on Mischa's usefulness is that she's able to one shot purple goblins, generating UP quickly and being anti-rush.

I've also seen her featured in a majority of DMM strat videos, and among AW units even. If I also recall, Mischa is still one of the most used units among DMM players.

 

[Nirhael]

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Pardon me for interrupting but curse you all for having millions of gold while I'm perpetually stuck at around 700,000. This is while I've been around since near the beginning of the English version.

On the topic of gold, again fuck y'all as not everyone is capable of getting into the millions like it's a walk in the park.

And here we have an example of someone who could get a lot of mileage of Noel, though I'm admittedly curious about how you can burn up so much Gold despite being here since the beginning.

For those who played the Nutaku version first, when put in terms of gameplay, there's the moaning and groaning about units missing, but in the end, the care about the usability is just not as prominent considering they started with less and were able to do more with that.

Just look at the past few events we had. Revival level events, with the newest updated mechanics, while in possession of less units, were being cleared left and right even from those who weren't lucky enough to get Immortal Karma, Anya, or a gacha black, which is the majority here. Even then, people were clearing them even without using those units if they had them.

While we do hear about people clearing stuff pretty often, I'm pretty sure that those who fail aren't as vocal and probably don't even frequent Forums such as these where we dispense advice for even specific teams.

 

[Rawr1125]

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Hmm, can't decide if I wanna farm for soldiers, or archers to skill up Spica.

 

[Eab1990]

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For those who played the Nutaku version first, when put in terms of gameplay, there's the moaning and groaning about units missing, but in the end, the care about the usability is just not as prominent considering they started with less and were able to do more with that.

Just look at the past few events we had. Revival level events, with the newest updated mechanics, while in possession of less units, were being cleared left and right even from those who weren't lucky enough to get Immortal Karma, Anya, or a gacha black, which is the majority here. Even then, people were clearing them even without using those units if they had them.

What I'm trying to say here is regardless of whether or not you find the missing units useful, others do, and they are supposed to be in the game, so it's better to not complain about the complainers complaining about not having the unit in the game. It's still annoying to sift through dozens of pages repeating the same argument over and over though.

I'm like 99% certain people complained we got Solano, aka the hardest pre-AW event without having the unit that would've eased its difficulty, aka Yurina.

 

[what3va]

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Not sure what the hype with Yurina is about. Sure she is good in some situations but hardly ever so.

I mincosted Yurina in DMM because she was my first event that I had a proper team to farm for. Initially, I used her because I was severely lacking proper tanks since I only had Leanne.

Once I got Berenice, she just sat there at level 50CC50 looking pretty as a benchwarmer. She is still warming the seat and evermore so once I got some units awakened in my usual roster. I can't remember when was the last time I used her too.

 

[Larcx]

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Not sure what the hype with Yurina is about. Sure she is good in some situations but hardly ever so.

I mincosted Yurina in DMM because she was my first event that I had a proper team to farm for. Initially, I used her because I was severely lacking proper tanks since I only had Leanne.

Once I got Berenice, she just sat there at level 50CC50 looking pretty as a benchwarmer. She is still warming the seat and evermore so once I got some units awakened in my usual roster. I can't remember when was the last time I used her too.

Yeah that might be right
Wait until DMM give her 3'rd H-scene
And whale will take the b8 to AW her
Those guy on DMM are genius~

lol

 

[xaxs]

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So there is 3rd H-scene, right? Thought it's gonna be when you AW unit, I was sure I saw somewhere someone mention about 3rd H-scene, but didn't see anything.

Btw, Aigis 1st on the top ranking

 

[Larcx]

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So there is 3rd H-scene, right? Thought it's gonna be when you AW unit, I was sure I saw somewhere someone mention about 3rd H-scene, but didn't see anything.

3'rd scene is only for AW unit
And upon 3 Star it
You will get Cost Reduce Fairy of the same Rarity

Dunno what %
Maybe 50% maybe 25% , who knows
And only 1 time

Still , dunno what if You have dupe characters
Can it still acquire it(?)
Or only 1 char 1 time only no matter 10 dupe or how many You have

 

[anon423]

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So there is 3rd H-scene, right? Thought it's gonna be when you AW unit, I was sure I saw somewhere someone mention about 3rd H-scene, but didn't see anything.

Only select few units got 3rd scene on DMM. Last batch had Belinda, so at least they don't discriminate against event units. Most likely depends on original artist's availability.

 

[Orion]

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I miss Black Dragon X's silver drop rates....I really believe there was some shenanigans going on in that map.

 

[what3va]

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Yeah that might be right
Wait until DMM give her 3'rd H-scene
And whale will take the b8 to AW her
Those guy on DMM are genius~

lol

I have to admit I like Yurina's artwork and style... she becomes a paladin after awaken and she looks kinda cool.

Unfortunately practicality wise she is still lacking until they decide to buff her. Yurina has too high cost at 25 even when mincosted.

And her role is a bit hard to determine. In most cases if you want to stop rushes you can use Soldiers. If you need to tank heavy damage you would use Heavy Armors. Yurina on the other hand is like is like a gimped HA with her lower def and high damage but is only able to block 2 units. And with her high cost you won't be using her to stop rushes early on either.

 

[Fayne]

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I miss Black Dragon X's silver drop rates....I really believe there was some shenanigans going on in that map.

My luck on that map was terrible. Took me forever to get the 4 pirates I wanted for whenever I may need them, until I could finally switch wo to red dragon and water dragon. So as always: personal luck or badluck

 

[Orion]

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So as always: personal luck or badluck

I thought so too at first, but I recall other users sharing the same absurd luck of silver drops on that map. I think even people on the wiki reported on it as well.