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(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)


Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Looking over Lolonee, she's not terrible, just very costly to max out due to her skill change upon CC. She's got higher attack than Imelia, much higher attack with skill up, she's got about the same HP. If whatever the unit is attacking dies in around 10 seconds, I'd say Lolonee is better overall. If it's something that needs to be tanked for a lengthy period, I'd say Imelia is better overall due to her skill lasting 3x as long.

I'll probably try to at least min cost her and get her to 2/5 skill. Alternatively it probably wouldn't be worth it since my Imelia is already level 60 something and awakened.
 
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Well, I mean, when it comes to dueling the HP difference may be a bit... Different than it seems, since one of them has to 0 their defense to get their full powered attacks while the other... Well, doubles their defense instead. Which cooooould be significant depending on the day.
 
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Myon said:
If you place your duelist on her early enough Anelia can only reach the ranged spot in the lower left and not the one in the middle which makes it a safe healing spot. ;)

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Got my Lolonee to CR 15 and will try to CR 13 although I'm not even sure why since I have a perfect Imelia...

The compulsion to perfect units is too strong. :(
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yea i had to swap jerome for aria just to get my duelist down in time but then bashira died cause i forgot to use her skill while waiting to put duelist down lol

Tesseract said:
I personally think its a good idea to at least try to CR/SU event units as much as possible without going too much out of the way. You never know what buffs/changes units will get in the future. Or what missions might have for gimmicks or requirements.
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except we kinda do for us we have about a year or 2 differance between us and dmm currently iirc and i havent seen any rorones used like ever ive seen imelia far more that or lyla who seems better then both but shes premium so she better be better
either way this is one of the only times we will get a chance to cr her but once daily revivals hit us it doesnt really matter we can cr at any point the event rolls around
 
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Fayne said:
(Edit: Wait. During her skill she deals magical damage. The gazers have pretty high MR [don't know the exact value] so I don't know if Anelia can even oneshot the gazers during skill activation). Only my prediction though. I don't have her so I can't really check it.
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She can't. In G tier Eyes have 750 HP, 150 def and 60 MR. At AW90, with +5 skill on, and support of Big Hero Prince, AW Aria and AW Uzume's passives, she deals 519 damage to 5 targets (455 with just Savior Prince, so same decimation rate). So she needs 2 shots to down her 5 eyes. With attack speed of ~1,87 seconds per shot, it might not be quite enough to clear the last rush. And duration of mere 20 seconds mean you won't be able to use it for any other wave)

All in all, Spica and Bashira to victory! :D
 
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Well, her skill description is botched then, it doesn't say anything about magic damage, just that it ignores defense (which, in hindsight, is only done by magic damage, so I should have seen that coming).
Kindy sucky considering her skill activation actually gimps her damage for high MR enemies. My pirate waifu not so stronk anymore.
 
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0nymous said:
Well, her skill description is botched then, it doesn't say anything about magic damage, just that it ignores defense (which, in hindsight, is only done by magic damage, so I should have seen that coming).
Kindy sucky considering her skill activation actually gimps her damage for high MR enemies. My pirate waifu not so stronk anymore.
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It's exactly the same description as for the princess class. Their descrition says "Can ignore enemy defense" while meining "Deals Magical damage". Or mages: "Splash damage that ignores defense". Or Rune Fencers skill description. Honestly I don't think the game itself mentions "Magical Damage" anywhere.
 
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Zola's
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actually says it changes her attacks to magic, but otherwise yeah 'ignores defense' or something to that extent is usually used.

Edit: Actually, I completely forgot Echidna's
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also says her attacks changes to magic.
 
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Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Interestingly, witches do NOT mention that their attack is magical / ignores defense...
But every other magic damage dealer does say "ignores defense" in their class or skill description.

In same vein, what we call "true damage'' is marked as "ignore defence and MR" in game ;) Well, it is exactly what it does... :D
 
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Zero Zet said:
In same vein, what we call "true damage'' is marked as "ignore defence and MR" in game ;) Well, it is exactly what it does... :D
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:V Although, I guess technically Defense and Resistance are pretty much the same thing. But, gameplay wise they aren't really, sort of like Dank (Dark) Souls or any other RPG that uses Resistance as a stat.
 
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We're edging closer and closer, I really wonder what they'll do with Liana's Event. If we do actually skip it, next in line would be Lucille's Event, our first Dragon Rider, the class boasts fairly high stats in all areas but is saddled with very high cost to compensate(CCed Lucille starts at 35 and max CR puts her at 30, AW is special and adds a +5 cost too for 40/35 on Lucille). They act as heavy-duty single-target duelists and offer ranged magical support when their Skill is active, similar to Magic Fencers(except Nadia, she's a blender and just breaks everything :p). They refund their UPs when withdrawn though, like Valkyries, but usually they're a late deployment unit due to cost so it's not that useful.

It's a mostly niche class(except Nadia) but for someone who doesn't have a tough duelist or good melee ranged support unit, it might be worth farming her. Skill caps at 10 though so it will cost some SCs, then there's the 5 CRs you'll want to get for her too.
 
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Nirhael said:
We're edging closer and closer, I really wonder what they'll do with Liana's Event. If we do actually skip it, next in line would be Lucille's Event, our first Dragon Rider, the class boasts fairly high stats in all areas but is saddled with very high cost to compensate(CCed Lucille starts at 35 and max CR puts her at 30, AW is special and adds a +5 cost too for 40/35 on Lucille). They act as heavy-duty single-target duelists and offer ranged magical support when their Skill is active, similar to Magic Fencers(except Nadia, she's a blender and just breaks everything :p). They refund their UPs when withdrawn though, like Valkyries, but usually they're a late deployment unit due to cost so it's not that useful.

It's a mostly niche class(except Nadia) but for someone who doesn't have a tough duelist or good melee ranged support unit, it might be worth farming her. Skill caps at 10 though so it will cost some SCs, then there's the 5 CRs you'll want to get for her too.
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We're 100% skipping Liana for now, Lucille is probably next.
Are dragon riders buffed by Echidna? I'll be wanting a decent version either way.
 
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Sashas said:
We're 100% skipping Liana for now, Lucille is probably next.
Are dragon riders buffed by Echidna? I'll be wanting a decent version either way.
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Yep, dragon riders fall into the dragon type category.

I don't think we'll get Lucille next though. Usually we don't get two unit farms in a row. So we might as well get Pupura if Liana is skipped.
 
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Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Liana's event presents an interesting dilemma, since if they did go through with it they'd have to take her out of Shrine and that'd probably make some people angry. Or maybe under Nutaku control they could just leave her in Shrine and she'd be the only event unit in the Shrine.
 
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Or they they remove Liana from Shrine and bring Black Iris into the Shrine and give everyone the possibility to exchange Liana with Black Iris in the Trading Post (only during event, as everyone who doesn't have her from shrine will only get her after the event) either at level one (rather unfair for players who leveled her or even AWed her) or the same level, skill level and CR the Liana currently has (pretty difficult to code I guess). Yep, we had that discussion. Several times.
Or (and this would be fun) they make Black Iris an event unit xD
 
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Fayne said:
Or (and this would be fun) they make Black Iris an event unit xD
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They do that and they'd make everyone over at DMM beyond mad. :V
 
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It doesn't matter what they think, since "they are different platforms for different audiences and are to be managed differently."
 
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I think you underestimate just how angry Japanese otaku can get. All it would take is a handful of whales to complain for the developers to tell Nutaku they can't just do what they want with the game.
 
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It'd be fun up until DMM decides to pull the game from Nutaku or making the Aigis devs take control permenantly. :V
 
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Yep, that's why I never meant it to be a serious solution to the problem or that that we should expect the probability for this scenario to be above 0 %.
 
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