(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[Xion]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Yeah, but Flamel is on alt, and units (except Nagi) I mentioned are on main so. Like I wrote, I have to say hello to Ertel and Ellett on main.

Sorry i misread and thought you where talking about the same acc.

After actually trying the map with the units i have here i notice that killing the Kamatachi before the they get to close is better since they out number the number of blocks that my units allowed.
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New strat: To clear the last wave, i used Sybilla - Prince and Raven for a lane, and Anya (behing Sybilla) and Rikka (in the bottom corner). Also using Ren + Waltz instead of an archer to take advantage of skills more often yield me a result of 999 with the last Raijin escaping with less than 10%
If i only had brough Karma instead of Sherry i could have kill it...

 

[khawk016]

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That's the main reason why I have a problem here. For all those weeks/ months we've had basically NOTHING (which arguably worked in my favor because I was only starting to play back then, almost a year ago by now BUT STILL), they SHOULD be doing some heavy catching up.
Instead they just resume the normal turtle-speed schedule where they left it (skipping loads of content anyways, due to no reason [Liana] or shitty reasons [dem lollies, censorship, etc.]) , in a game that could very well die in a year/two, and everybody seems fine with that, grateful they're getting events at all.

I mean, seriously, this isn't NEW content we're talking about. My argument could fall flat and you could accuse me of being entitled, if not for the fact that it's actually there and it's just a matter of translating(and there's minimal effort spent on doing that already)/porting it.
Either way, fuck Nutaku, or the 'mysterious Japanese Aigis devs', in which case fuck Nutaku again for not communicating with them and negotiating for more.

And don't even get me started on their broken promises.
Remember their questions about what kind of 'unique, original and exclusive' unit should the English version of Aigis get? Yeah.
I know most of you rightfully dreaded the implementation of some shoddy western artist attempt, but it's been there.

im sure many are thankful the game is atleast still alive and being treated better theres improvements to be made as there always was but its far better then the literal weeks of nothing atleast we have weeks where we can farm the revival thats up but i still wish they were brought out along side new events so we get less down time and things start moving a bit faster with luck that will come in time i dont see the game dieng anytime soon as long as the devs keep pushing content out as its one of nutakus best games

as far as playing catch up thats part of the original issue they wanted to play catch up and skip a bunch of shit to try and catch a game already with more then 1-2 years worth of content fans wanted all the units so they stopped theres no catching current dmm all they can do is match there speed

most of the skipping is in the past though and as far as we know no units are being skipped more delayed shortly it seems i still despise this personally but its better then getting a unit like yurina over a year late and she has no use now

the unique units for our side i think is dead in the water i doubt anything will ever come of the idea a good one if done right of course but sadly not to be

 

[Eab1990]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

How did you use her?? i got mine at CC30 if there use for her might aswell put her somewhere

I used her in place of Nagi. It's not particularly ideal, but it works.

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Gosh, that's a big screenshot.

What in the ACTUAL FUCK is this? Just when I thought Nutaku Aigis couldn't be more gutted and lackluster in content, I find M O R E ridiculously handy and cool features DMM Aigis has.
A FUCKING BOND FAIRY AND 3 SC? For practically nothing?? Oh yeah and not as if a third fucking H-scene, at least half the reason I play this game in the first place, is nothing.


Have we grown complacent already since the end of the break period (and the threat of a new one looming on the horizon because summertime vacation period is coming) and regular weekly/biweekly events?
We have gotten ZERO signs of anything other than that or any other improvements for half a year now.

And I realize most of you probably don't actually care because you play on DMM as well (which is sort of dumb IMO - doubly so if you whale out on both versions).

Will you calm your tits? Nobody's asking for it because we still don't have SAW, Chloe, Liana (inb4 Angelic), fairy barracks, and god knows what else that came before that did.

 

[The Overgoat]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Oh, we're back at the catching up or not discussion again, lovely. I'm perfectly fine with staying behind, as long we don't have breaks. If I want to play the most up to date version, I go over to DMM and struggle with my perpetually underpowered team there.


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Tried the 1000 run: 996/1000. The first two were actually the very first two monsters. I thought I put the prince down, but I misclicked and by the time I noticed two bastards ran past. Then one of those sabertooths ran past me and finally the wind god on the bottom line escaped. I took it down from the air, but by then he was behind the reach of the last melee spot and just ran away.

So the first two misses are easily fixable by not being a dumbass. Saki on the other hand is not a good replacement for Nagi here, even on AW99. I used a plat armor to bump Nagi from 21 to 40. I'm not sure if that's enough, but I'll give it a try tomorrow. If not then I either waste a plat armor by using it Nagi with gold spirits for 4k exp (should bump her to 45-46) or I try my AW56 Horace. Her skill damage should work, I'm just not sure that her attack is fast enough.

 

[alpha10th]

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Well, looks like I only need to run the subjugation 10 times.

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Though it depends if I wanna be adventurous and try for dumb things like no healer team.
While playing the standard braindead team I saw a glimpse of possibility. Buuuut most likely I overlooked something obvious.

 

[PAAL]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

There is an entire month to do subjugation so there is really no hurry for it. While I know some people couldn't give a rat's ass about Pippin event, I am using all charisma on collecting bones til it ends. After that there will be plenty of excess CHA that I can spend on the yonkai army.

 

[Selius]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

this sub makes me wanna buy saki.

i have no good ranged melee units except for hina(who is a loli shitter fuck her) and daisy.

 

[Ericridge]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

I've been pondering on how to deal with the leaks for once and all and it seems like i can't quite come up with it for the time being because my Warrior Priest Ertel at CC50 isn't quite good enough yet it seems.

I do have an Ellet at CC1 and then recently pulled an Flamel which is at level 1. lol. Ah, I remember the days when I didn't even have one warrior priest.

This is one of several formations I've been using. It worked really well until an massive horde comes up and I cannot get them all in time.

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[Xion]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

There is an entire month to do subjugation so there is really no hurry for it. While I know some people couldn't give a rat's ass about Pippin event, I am using all charisma on collecting bones til it ends. After that there will be plenty of excess CHA that I can spend on the yonkai army.

You have a good point, but killing is in our nature thats why we change our focus as soon as the sub was release(?)

I think people just want to find the right strat as soon as possible, yeah we have time but in my experience the first days are the best to exchange info regarding subs, since after that the hype pass and some even decide to forget them altogether.

Besides for Pipin you also need stamina and while that charge you can do the sub
(I'm glad for these year chocos and easter eggs)

 

[alpha10th]

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I did it. No healer run is done.

You must be registered to see the links

Well I guess no healer "deployed" is more exact.
Still wanted the B.Iris passive.

I failed the experiment only once, but ended up doing many runs b/c of all the NGs while recording.
So....I'm pretty much done with 10000.

Still satisfied with the result.

 

[Fayne]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

For all those weeks/ months we've had basically NOTHING (which arguably worked in my favor because I was only starting to play back then, almost a year ago by now BUT STILL), they SHOULD be doing some heavy catching up.
Instead they just resume the normal turtle-speed schedule where they left it [...] in a game that could very well die in a year/two, and everybody seems fine with that, grateful they're getting events at all.

We never had constant events before the current streak, so it's not exactly going BACK to turtle speed. If we'd get revivals at the same time as normal events we were at perfect speed.
How do you suppose they catch up? You seem to be against skipping units. Most of us would agree. Also most of us are against multiple normal events at the same time because you wouldn't really be able to get all the units as you are supposed to be.
As for features (opposed to content): We're lacking skill awakening, yes. Everything else (like the bonding quests you mentioned) is still far off in schedule.

I think quite a few veterans, including me, switched their main focus to the DMM version. Therefore they see the progress of the Nutaku version a little more relaxed.
To be honest I'm still doing normal stuff, but my completionism is not triggered anymore. See Pippin for example. I don't care about her so I spend minimal SC on her. Back in the future I would have gotten 1400 Bones despite knowing I won't use her.
The DMM version is simply more fun. When my DMM account was three months old (three months ago) it was as strong as my more than two years old Nutaku account. Since then it's been leaving my Nutaku account behind in the dust. This subjugation for example. I remembered it being super easy from my DMM account. Now I'm struggling because all the strategies I could think of require unit types I don't have. So I have to keep trying with what I have and am constantly reminded of my lackluster units... Which is not fun at all.
Besides that I keep getting cool new units on DMM due to all the free SCs, while I have nothing to level on Nutaku since over a year.

 

[razisgosu]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

What in the ACTUAL FUCK is this? Just when I thought Nutaku Aigis couldn't be more gutted and lackluster in content, I find M O R E ridiculously handy and cool features DMM Aigis has.
A FUCKING BOND FAIRY AND 3 SC? For practically nothing?? Oh yeah and not as if a third fucking H-scene, at least half the reason I play this game in the first place, is nothing.

Have we grown complacent already since the end of the break period (and the threat of a new one looming on the horizon because summertime vacation period is coming) and regular weekly/biweekly events?
We have gotten ZERO signs of anything other than that or any other improvements for half a year now.

And I realize most of you probably don't actually care because you play on DMM as well (which is sort of dumb IMO - doubly so if you whale out on both versions).

You realize that content was only implemented in DMM fairly recently, right? There's absolutely no reason for you to be so furious over the English version not having it.

 

[0nymous]

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Boy did I not expect to find Nutaku defense force on here of all places!

This is exactly the kind of complacent cancerous attitude I'm talking about. 'Brah the schedule is FINE we're SUPPOSED to be behind, and I don't care anyways because I play DMM too '

So the huge gaps in the schedule that happened and content ommitted/implemented late and outside the schedule (we got fucking YURINA only weeks ago) is excused now?

You are all almost asking to get the shaft and months of silence again. Consumers who don't make audible demands to improvement in a faulty product get a shitty product.

'But it's FINE, it's supposed to be a faulty product, I'm SURE we will get all the DMM content in ~3 years!'
Fuck off. You can wait till 2020 for your AW2 all you want. I am not fine with this in the slightest. DMM Aigis could die in that time. It's an old game already. You think the devs will just switch their attention to Nutaku fully or pack their shit and focus on some new project?

The DMM version is simply more fun. When my DMM account was three months old (three months ago) it was as strong as my more than two years old Nutaku account. Since then it's been leaving my Nutaku account behind in the dust. This subjugation for example. I remembered it being super easy from my DMM account. Now I'm struggling because all the strategies I could think of require unit types I don't have. So I have to keep trying with what I have and am constantly reminded of my lackluster units... Which is not fun at all.
Besides that I keep getting cool new units on DMM due to all the free SCs, while I have nothing to level on Nutaku since over a year.

Case in point. I don't even have to comment on this.

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This is standard procedure on DMM Aigis. We are getting fucking scraps in comparison.

 

[Selius]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

speaking of nutaku

is anybody else having issues with their site right now

 

[Orion]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Huh, I wasn't imagining things. The defeated counter is smaller now.

 

[Myon]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

This is standard procedure on DMM Aigis. We are getting fucking scraps in comparison.

The DMM thread is over there on this forum, so kindly go there instead of whining.

 

[Eab1990]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Boy did I not expect to find Nutaku defense force on here of all places!

This is exactly the kind of complacent cancerous attitude I'm talking about. 'Brah the schedule is FINE we're SUPPOSED to be behind, and I don't care anyways because I play DMM too '

So the huge gaps in the schedule that happened and content ommitted/implemented late and outside the schedule (we got fucking YURINA only weeks ago) is excused now?

You are all almost asking to get the shaft and months of silence again. Consumers who don't make audible demands to improvement in a faulty product get a shitty product.

'But it's FINE, it's supposed to be a faulty product, I'm SURE we will get all the DMM content in ~3 years!'
Fuck off. You can wait till 2020 for your AW2 all you want. I am not fine with this in the slightest. DMM Aigis could die in that time. It's an old game already. You think the devs will just switch their attention to Nutaku fully or pack their shit and focus on some new project?


Case in point. I don't even have to comment on this.

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This is standard procedure on DMM Aigis. We are getting fucking scraps in comparison.

Again, why are you complaining about exchange quests when you SHOULD be complaining about the lack of SAW first?

If, two years ago, you were complaining about the lack of Eastern story quests (I'm not even sure DMM had them two years ago, but for the sake of argument) despite not even having Desert quests or AW, it'd still be the same stupid fucking argument.

Complain if you want about us getting scraps, but make sure it's actually following the goddamn timeline.

Hell, where were you when we got autocomplete and level 300 earlier than DMM did?

 

[razisgosu]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Boy did I not expect to find Nutaku defense force on here of all places!

This is exactly the kind of complacent cancerous attitude I'm talking about. 'Brah the schedule is FINE we're SUPPOSED to be behind, and I don't care anyways because I play DMM too '

So the huge gaps in the schedule that happened and content ommitted/implemented late and outside the schedule (we got fucking YURINA only weeks ago) is excused now?

You are all almost asking to get the shaft and months of silence again. Consumers who don't make audible demands to improvement in a faulty product get a shitty product.

'But it's FINE, it's supposed to be a faulty product, I'm SURE we will get all the DMM content in ~3 years!'
Fuck off. You can wait till 2020 for your AW2 all you want. I am not fine with this in the slightest. DMM Aigis could die in that time. It's an old game already. You think the devs will just switch their attention to Nutaku fully or pack their shit and focus on some new project?


Case in point. I don't even have to comment on this.

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This is standard procedure on DMM Aigis. We are getting fucking scraps in comparison.

Who is defending Nutaku? Nobody. We're saying, why are you complaining about a feature that was implemented far into the future compared to where we're at? How about you complain about current things that are missing, things that actually make sense to complain about? Missing things like Anna's adventure, skill awakening, Chloe, Eliza, the skipped over gold rushes, etc.

Why don't you go ahead and complain that we don't have Majin's yet so when that does show up, they can whoop your teams ass?

The cancerous attitude is the one you're projecting by demanding we get features that weren't even a thought compared to where we are in the event/feature timeline. Not to mention the cancerous attitude where you come in and attack other board members for trying to have a discussion with you.

 

[alpha10th]

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Boy did I not expect to find Nutaku defense force on here of all places!

Hey now. There's only about two ppl who deserved to be called that.
And one of them doesn't even come here anymore.

I complain about not having SAW with every living breath.
I just don't post here about it after already having done so.

Why would I? And why would you? Neither the devs nor Nutaku read this forum.
Frustration has been vented by posting once or twice or five times, but that's the only purpose it serves.

But to call us all complacent, I'm sure you have been doing so much for us Nutaku players that will actually make the difference.

Good work.

 

[khawk016]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

almost 1900 pages in this thread more then a few of them are complaining about one thing or the other so i wouldnt say anyone is complacent just that its likely been done to death by someone somewhere at some point

also hina deserves better she has saved me 300+ dc on dmm side due to being fantastic