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(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)


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also hina deserves better she has saved me 300+ dc on dmm side due to being fantastic

Agreed. Anyone saying a unit who has true damage bad is silly. Hina is an excellent ranged melee slot.
 
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Agreed. Anyone saying a unit who has true damage bad is silly. Hina is an excellent ranged melee slot.

i didnt even know this wow thought she had pursuit so i just thought she put out shurikans like mad and ate dudes because of it

but i dont think he was saying shes bad just that he wont use an amazing unit because shes a loli

edit sandra shenanigans worked got the kill and the 1k map is done
 
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So like why is 0nymous bitching about stuff that is currently in DMM Aigis that wasn't even present at all in our current point in Aigis time? Surely he does understand that SAW2, etc wasn't present when this current domination mission is in progress on DMM Aigis. Whatever.
 
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That's what's confusing about the whole thing.

Nobody would be stopping him if we were actually expecting it anytime soon. But nobody (to my knowledge) is going, "gee, wish I could AW2 my units before we get SAW!" so his bitching makes no sense.
 
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You all misunderstood my intent. I am bitching about the fact we're behind and not getting features we should be getting IN GENERAL.

My frustration was just re-fueled by the fact I personally found out about ANOTHER cool feature on DMM - bonding missions.
Perhaps I implied I'm mainly angry because we don't have them, and I wanted them now (I mean, I DO, but I'd settle for the 'chronologically deserved' features first). For that, I apologize.
What I meant is the general state of things, of us getting the shaft - and DMM Aigis constantly advancing.
I get the feeling the Japanese devs are blissfully unaware of the fact that WE are aware of the state of things in DMM Aigis. Like their pathetic little IP blocks actually do prevent the filthy gaijins from seeing how things are in the original version. Well, we do know, to the point of making a whole separate fucking wiki about it, and I just feel it's tiring to keep comparing the two versions - something essentially inescapable, as the two fanbases are NOT separate in the slightest, and many people outright overlap by being players of both.

The other scenario here is Nutaku just being lazy, or not dedicating enough management to what they see as only one of many projects of theirs.
We just don't fucking know. And, you know, there's so long of feeding yourself on false hope that 'wow maybe in a couple of years I'll get the full Aigis experience in English'.
Yeah, yeah, I could just skeedaddle the fuck outie here if I'm so butthurt, and go make an account on DMM through a proxy, start anew, but to what end? It takes time and effort to dedicate yourself to this game, and even money, which I've also already decided to dedicate to Aigis on Nutaku.
 
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no one is denying we dont get the same treatment as dmm does no one likes it either but theres also nothing we can do about it

the thing is that theres seems to be atleast to me slow progress towards getting those things we used to only get gold rushs at the end of the year and i dont think we ever had 1.5 events nor did we have subjigations on a regular basis as side content rather then main

also for awhile now on dmm i havent had issues with using the site when i used to have to always put that proxy thing in to access it and due to the nature of dmm there constantly giving out free shit like the algerias there giving now and i think rainbows are starting next update and with daily revivals its very easy to pick up and get going over there
 
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We will never catch up to DMM. Period. The only way that's ever happening if DMM Aigis shuts down and the Nutaku version somehow doesn't. That's the only way you will ever get the "full experience". We are way too behind to ever catch up without skipping an insane amount of events. As for the missing stuff that we should be having by now, in the last half year we have been getting more and more of it and to my knowledge we haven't skipped anything in that timeperiod, as such I do expect us to get all the features that in the current state of the game we should have within a reasonable timeframe.
 
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no one is denying we dont get the same treatment as dmm does no one likes it either but theres also nothing we can do about it

That's complacence. Idleness breeds nothing in the best case scenario, and evil in the other. Nothing good.

True, there is no platform where we can contact and talk with Nutaku directly - I assume spamming support tickets would just yield some fascist sanctions against your account - but I do know some Nutaku officials are familiar with this thread, lurk, and even post here, like Nordland recently.

I'm just trying to spread the awareness again. If we exclude the basic premise of the game's model which is the flow of new events to keep the playerbase busy with fresh content, what the fuck exactly has changed in Aigis over the past year? A SINGLE TP rotation (and only one AFAIK)? Some minor UI updates? They added another way to milk the whales with the S.Legend stamp card?

You, me, we are the consumers. We decided Aigis deserves our money or at least attention. We should rightfully expect Nutaku to deserve their consumers.
I know this sounds really fucking basic and adheres to some basic principles most of you are aware of, but from what I've seen I do believe this community's attitude mellowed down, as if we've been thrown the scraps and should be happy we have anything at all.


We will never catch up to DMM. Period.

No question here, I only ask that someone responsible at least pretends they're trying to catch up in due time.
Again, DMM Aigis dying would be probably synonymous with Nutaku Aigis dying, unless Nutaku struck some kind of deal and bought all the assets to translate/port on their own. Which I don't trust them to do.
 
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Evil? Fascist? Dude, this is F2P tower defense game with animu tiddies, not world politics, calm your shit.

And you are preaching to the choir. EVERYBODY in this thread is well aware of the situation. Thing is, we more or less stopped constantly whining about it because 1) things have actually been improving, 2) since there's no official answer for anything ever, circlejerking about the same shit over and over again can become tedious and pointless as fuck. Not all of us get off on being edgelords you know...
 
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1) things have actually been improving
1) Not really.
2) Too slowly.
3) Where's our compensation for the time when things were bad? We just picked up the normal schedule where we left off after going through it.
4) Where's the explanation for all the broken, hollow promises? 'UNIQUE UNIT', 'NEW EVENT SCHEDULE', 'FASTER FEATURES', 'WE'RE TAKING OVER'. Still nowhere.
5) Where's our explanation and some kind of replacement for content cut out? Like Liana.

2) since there's no official answer for anything ever, circlejerking about the same shit over and over again can become tedious and pointless as fuck. Not all of us get off on being edgelords you know...

Well, I suppose my main fault here is having too much time on my hands and caring too much about this. What can I say? Aside from 'I'm angry and I want you all to be angry with me', that is.
 
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True, there is no platform where we can contact and talk with Nutaku directly

I know this sounds really fucking basic and adheres to some basic principles most of you are aware of, but from what I've seen I do believe this community's attitude mellowed down, as if we've been thrown the scraps and should be happy we have anything at all.

No question here, I only ask that someone responsible at least pretends they're trying to catch up in due time.
Again, DMM Aigis dying would be probably synonymous with Nutaku Aigis dying, unless Nutaku struck some kind of deal and bought all the assets to translate/port on their own. Which I don't trust them to do.

You realize Nordland is on twitter, receives messages on these very forums, and is on discord. I have messaged with her myself when an Aigis event had an incorrect timer on it. She is Nutaku's community coordinator, which means she's the one who interacts with people like you who have things to say.

Obviously the community has mellowed down. Did you forget that we used to get content once every 2 weeks or less and we are now at a point where content is steadily coming every week? Regardless of how you see it, that is a significant improvement, one that the veterans of this game have been asking and praying for, for years.

If you want to help catch up, take your complaints to Nordland and ask when we can expect to see Anna's adventure, and skill awakening. Those are two things pretty important that are overdue.

1) Not really.
2) Too slowly.
3) Where's our compensation for the time when things were bad? We just picked up the normal schedule where we left off after going through it.
4) Where's the explanation for all the broken, hollow promises? 'UNIQUE UNIT', 'NEW EVENT SCHEDULE', 'FASTER FEATURES', 'WE'RE TAKING OVER'. Still nowhere.
5) Where's our explanation and some kind of replacement for content cut out? Like Liana.

Well, I suppose my main fault here is having too much time on my hands and caring too much about this. What can I say? Aside from 'I'm angry and I want you all to be angry with me', that is.

1 - How have we not seen an improvement? Did you miss the vast quantity of content that has been released since we've been getting weekly content? We've gotten more game content in 2017 alone than probably 2015 and 2016 combined.
2 - I'll agree with this to an extent. I'd like to see the remaining missing events and skill awakening implemented sooner rather than later.
3 - Compensation would be great, but in the end they owe you nothing.
4 - We got a unique unit, it then got back ported to DMM. I don't think you understand just how vicious Japanese otaku can be. If the English game got unique content it would absolutely devastate the Japanese game. The "we're taking over" stuff fell through and was explained many months ago, did you miss that? We discussed it hundreds of pages back.
5 - Ask Nordland. I know I included Liana in my list of things that need to change in Aigis.
 
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4 - The "we're taking over" stuff fell through and was explained many months ago, did you miss that? We discussed it hundreds of pages back.

IT"S OKAY! I FOUND IT FOR YOU! Also Ony even posted on the same page as the post was so he should technically know. Probably just forgot.

AHAHAHA



I guess this is what they meant by their best guys weren't on it any longer.
Time to truly abandon all hope.
 
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Aside from 'I'm angry and I want you all to be angry with me', that is.

So go do something about it.
If you have enough time to offend ppl here who has no control over anyhing, surely it can be put to better use by communicating with Nutaku the evil devil.

I have filed mutiple complaints and feedbacks to them.
Sounds like some other ppl here have, too.

Have you? If not, who's complacent now?
 
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I think quite a few veterans, including me, switched their main focus to the DMM version. Therefore they see the progress of the Nutaku version a little more relaxed.
To be honest I'm still doing normal stuff, but my completionism is not triggered anymore. See Pippin for example. I don't care about her so I spend minimal SC on her. Back in the future I would have gotten 1400 Bones despite knowing I won't use her.
The DMM version is simply more fun. When my DMM account was three months old (three months ago) it was as strong as my more than two years old Nutaku account. Since then it's been leaving my Nutaku account behind in the dust. This subjugation for example. I remembered it being super easy from my DMM account. Now I'm struggling because all the strategies I could think of require unit types I don't have. So I have to keep trying with what I have and am constantly reminded of my lackluster units... Which is not fun at all.
Besides that I keep getting cool new units on DMM due to all the free SCs, while I have nothing to level on Nutaku since over a year.

Tried, but gave up on this. Now, after I read this, I want to try again on DMM. Even from scratch once again, especially with eng dmm wiki now. Just not sure if it is worth trying to register and login there (always had problems with that). And I'm also a bit of fed up with jp language... but well.. it's been quite some time so maybe...
 
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I mean, if you seriously consider a steady flow of events the only improvement Aigis needed and needs, then we're not on the same page here. I thought of it as a long overdue beginning of improvements. After half a year, 'disappointed' is one of the lighter words about how I feel about it now.

IT"S OKAY! I FOUND IT FOR YOU! Also Ony even posted on the same page as the post was so he should technically know. Probably just forgot.

Yep, 'interesting' days, and we still haven't gotten any official word of how their implementation of """"""taking over""""""" actually looked, and what exactly was the reason the Japanese devs made a 360 degree turn and started giving the English version attention again. It was either some false flag bullshit, or proof of absolutely zero communication with the enigmatic Japanese devs, contrary to their claims of 'gathering feedback of the English fanbase and delivering it to the Japanese devs'.

Who gives a fuck! They fed us false lies and promises AGAIN and fucked our assess the moment it came to delivering AGAIN. I don't give a shit if they mock us with a smug anime gif at this point, that's just a salt on the wound, and the wound is the problem here.
Seriously tempted to blow all my SC, ditch this shitfest, and switch to DMM Aigis permanently. Better struggle with the moonrunes on an infinitely better service and superior content in every way, than getting Nutacucked again.
Ah, one of the rare instances where past me outsmarted current me. Should've took my own advice it seems.
I think rolling Deine had some influence on my choice.
Can't beat the anime tiddy.
 
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Evil? Fascist? Dude, this is F2P tower defense game with animu tiddies, not world politics, calm your shit.

And you are preaching to the choir. EVERYBODY in this thread is well aware of the situation. Thing is, we more or less stopped constantly whining about it because 1) things have actually been improving, 2) since there's no official answer for anything ever, circlejerking about the same shit over and over again can become tedious and pointless as fuck. Not all of us get off on being edgelords you know...

That.

We're all still waiting for SAW, a solution to Liana, confirmation of Chloe, Anna, Hana (?), fairy barracks, etc.

We just chose to not go on a ridiculous tangent by bringing up AW2 and exchange quests first.
 
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I mean, you people do argue about much more mundane shit, the classic scenario of this thread being 'MY WAIFU IS THE BEST UNIT, YOUR WAIFU A SHITTY GIMMICK UNIT, FUCK YOU', followed up by walls of text of mathematical analysis of stats and whatever of how superior their waifu is.
Which is then followed by vicious shit-flinging back and forth, because insulting a waifu here is like insulting Muhammad if you're Muslim.

It literally happened like a dozen pages back from today, and was related to Liana, I didn't pay much attention.

I don't think I'm in the wrong at all by my adamant stance of this game's questionable improvements as a whole. The only party I'm painting as the guilty one here is Nutaku's shitty management, or arguably the elusive Japanese devs' attitude (fuck me for having to state this EVERY TIME, because we just DON'T KNOW who is actually responsible).
 
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I mean, you people do argue about much more mundane shit, the classic scenario of this thread being 'MY WAIFU IS THE BEST UNIT, YOUR WAIFU A SHITTY GIMMICK UNIT, FUCK YOU', followed up by walls of text of mathematical analysis of stats and whatever of how superior their waifu is.

It's okay, we have a solution for this. Everyone just has to agree Cloris is best waifu. Believe in the side boob!

Problem solved.
 
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I mean, since Nutaku doesn't run Aigis, can't we -only- blame the devs? If they had gained control I'd be all for lynching them if they didn't deliver on promises, but the original devs put their collective foots down, right?
 
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It's okay, we have a solution for this. Everyone just has to agree Cloris is best waifu. Believe in the side boob!

Problem solved.



I mean, since Nutaku doesn't run Aigis, can't we -only- blame the devs? If they had gained control I'd be all for lynching them if they didn't deliver on promises, but the original devs put their collective foots down, right?

We don't know that. We are all basing this off the benefit of the doubt to what Nutaku says. Is there a documented, single statement in Japanese from the DMM/ Aigis team even at least acknowledging the existence of English Aigis?
 
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