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at the moment they don't kill or even finish, it just goes like instantly to game over if ether one dies. and its also super hard to have them get raped they're not the smartest AI but they can get to like mid 4th wave with out you helping them. the corner up like in L4D and let the Zombies come to you works well, for now. there are a few small bugs with reloading and I've gotten the weapons to lock up so you couldn't do anything. and sometimes on death the zombies go in to a standing idle animation.
 

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Well I also played the demo and quite enjoyed it, though it is very lacking in content so far.

I'll never understand why more people want to play as a girl and get raped than play as a guy and do the raping.

Never.
It's about variety for me. If the MC is a female character, I can guide her into all sorts of trouble with different people/monsters/objects, but if I play a male MC it's usually winds up just being that guy doing relatively vanilla (and repetitive) things with different female characters.

Of course, if the male MC had a mechanic that allowed him to lure girls to different situations or possess others to create different situations, I'd be down for that too.
 

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at the moment they don't kill or even finish, it just goes like instantly to game over if ether one dies. and its also super hard to have them get raped they're not the smartest AI but they can get to like mid 4th wave with out you helping them. the corner up like in L4D and let the Zombies come to you works well, for now. there are a few small bugs with reloading and I've gotten the weapons to lock up so you couldn't do anything. and sometimes on death the zombies go in to a standing idle animation.
Press ctrl+2 to the girls instantly.
 

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To charge 15$ for a trial version is something... strange...
 

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It's about variety for me. If the MC is a female character, I can guide her into all sorts of trouble with different people/monsters/objects, but if I play a male MC it's usually winds up just being that guy doing relatively vanilla (and repetitive) things with different female characters.

Of course, if the male MC had a mechanic that allowed him to lure girls to different situations or possess others to create different situations, I'd be down for that too.
I'm with the original guy who posed the question--never understood why male players like playing as the girl who gets raped. Also never understood why most games out there have a female MC for that same reason (I assume it's because that's what people want).

Sure, I get that there are more scenarios for the girls to get H-scenes, but in pretty much every game I've played with a female MC, especially with non-consensual sex, I've run into the perennial problem of GoR or battle-f*** scenes, meaning you'd be intentionally losing to get your MC to be banged, which is counterintuitive to most games' objectives. Why bother trying to fight enemies if you can just stand next to each one, get the scene and watch your MC be raped? And, playing as the girl, you're subconsciously getting banged by a guy. How do you process that if that's a fantasy of yours...I mean, wouldn't it be simpler, if you liked that stuff, to play as a dude and be the raper instead?

I do agree it's a weird situation for rape games, because if you have a male MC, you've also got two options, which are 1.) you're a raper yourself, and sometimes players aren't necessarily comfortable with doing that themselves despite having a fetish for rape, or 2.) NTR, also which some people dislike because it usually means you're being cuckolded and could possibly be a weaker or less involved MC.

You know we all secretly want to wake up having boobs for a day.
Heh, maybe it's a weird mind thing for guys who play as female MCs (even in non-H games) who secretly want to be women/have feminine body parts? Or want to experience gameplay as a woman, with or without consensual or non-consensual sex? Do guys like that secretly want to be violated? I have no idea. I'm sure this topic has been discussed over and over anyway, and I'm overthinking it. :/ Not gonna judge either, just completely flabbergasted.

Back to the game, I haven't seen anything like it. FPS L4D+zombie rape is the stuff of dreams. Or nightmares. Or somewhere in between. Definitely excited for it, especially with a male MC (I'm all for the consensual sex between the MC and the female teammates too), but the sex scenes don't look especially amazing (not expecting Skyrim graphics but mehhh). I just hope the concept is emulated and refined to give birth to new games like this.
 

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Sure, I get that there are more scenarios for the girls to get H-scenes, but in pretty much every game I've played with a female MC, especially with non-consensual sex, I've run into the perennial problem of GoR or battle-f*** scenes, meaning you'd be intentionally losing to get your MC to be banged, which is counterintuitive to most games' objectives. Why bother trying to fight enemies if you can just stand next to each one, get the scene and watch your MC be raped? And, playing as the girl, you're subconsciously getting banged by a guy. How do you process that if that's a fantasy of yours...I mean, wouldn't it be simpler, if you liked that stuff, to play as a dude and be the raper instead?
Can't speak for others but personally I don't "self-insert", I don't see the MC as "me" in any way. More like I'm controlling a scene so to speak. And I for one am completely bored by vanilla, human-on-human H, so there is that as well. But I can see why it would appeal to those who do self-insert (or whatever you want to call it).

And it's partly a matter of how far you take the rape fantasy, if you control the female, you are ultimately in control of whether/how much consent is there.
 

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Sure, I get that there are more scenarios for the girls to get H-scenes, but in pretty much every game I've played with a female MC, especially with non-consensual sex, I've run into the perennial problem of GoR or battle-f*** scenes, meaning you'd be intentionally losing to get your MC to be banged, which is counterintuitive to most games' objectives. Why bother trying to fight enemies if you can just stand next to each one, get the scene and watch your MC be raped? And, playing as the girl, you're subconsciously getting banged by a guy. How do you process that if that's a fantasy of yours...I mean, wouldn't it be simpler, if you liked that stuff, to play as a dude and be the raper instead?

I do agree it's a weird situation for rape games, because if you have a male MC, you've also got two options, which are 1.) you're a raper yourself, and sometimes players aren't necessarily comfortable with doing that themselves despite having a fetish for rape, or 2.) NTR, also which some people dislike because it usually means you're being cuckolded and could possibly be a weaker or less involved MC.
As with Mayak, I don't "self-insert" (unintended pun?) in these types of games either. Playing a female character is no more reflective of what I desire happens to me than playing a male character is of what I want to do to others; or to use an analogy, playing a female character in a porn game doesn't mean I wanna be shafted, just like playing a male character in a FPS doesn't mean I'm budding serial killer.

My level of investment with games is about the same as watching a movie, which (on a bit of a tangent) is also why I like to cheat a lot since that's essentially the "fast forward" button to get to all the good scenes.
 

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Can't speak for others but personally I don't "self-insert", I don't see the MC as "me" in any way. More like I'm controlling a scene so to speak. And I for one am completely bored by vanilla, human-on-human H, so there is that as well. But I can see why it would appeal to those who do self-insert (or whatever you want to call it).

And it's partly a matter of how far you take the rape fantasy, if you control the female, you are ultimately in control of whether/how much consent is there.
Couldn't put it better myself. Though I'm not completely bored with vanilla sex, it's just that it has to look reeeeally good. And yes, also agree that sadly the most common problem in games with females MCs is the whole GoR thing, not many use the sex as an actual game mechanic (like in some games the girl gets pregnant from monsters and give birth to new party members). Heck, even if because the story that kind of things aren't possible and the only way to see the sex scenes is losing battles, I wouldn't make it a game over, just a penalty of some sort.
 

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Thanks for your replies...I'm beginning to piece together the mindset. I do understand the "control" mentality. You can choose to be raped (quite oxymoronic, but it makes sense. It's why I enjoy those sorts of games but dislike Scalegarden's linear 'forced' plotlines).

Still, that doesn't really explain why you'd want to actually play a game to do that. If you so desire control, if you are willing to fast-forward to the "good parts", why not just play one of those simple flash games, or a point-and-click, or a visual novel? Hell, why not just actually watch an H-movie or something? True, you don't have the control, since you're forced into a linear progression of content, but you also don't need to invest or immerse yourselves into an actual game that requires you do actually do things and focuses on things other than H-content (e.g. graphics, gameplay, etc). In addition, H-games usually take a lot of time to create for that very reason, and finding/waiting for English translations is just as time-consuming for the individual.

My curiosity isn't necessarily asking why you'd want to play as a female, but rather why use gaming as a platform for that, given it still seems backwards that you'd go against the goal of the game in order to get the "good stuff" (e.g. you're being rewarded for losing). Why take the time to play the game (or rather, intentionally fail) when you can spend 5 minutes on the CG folder and call it a day?

Not condemning or judging (esp because i play the same games y'all do). Just trying to understand. Also, if we're getting too tangential here, feel free to redirect the convo.
 

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Thanks for your replies...I'm beginning to piece together the mindset. I do understand the "control" mentality. You can choose to be raped (quite oxymoronic, but it makes sense. It's why I enjoy those sorts of games but dislike Scalegarden's linear 'forced' plotlines).

Still, that doesn't really explain why you'd want to actually play a game to do that. If you so desire control, if you are willing to fast-forward to the "good parts", why not just play one of those simple flash games, or a point-and-click, or a visual novel? Hell, why not just actually watch an H-movie or something? True, you don't have the control, since you're forced into a linear progression of content, but you also don't need to invest or immerse yourselves into an actual game that requires you do actually do things and focuses on things other than H-content (e.g. graphics, gameplay, etc). In addition, H-games usually take a lot of time to create for that very reason, and finding/waiting for English translations is just as time-consuming for the individual.

My curiosity isn't necessarily asking why you'd want to play as a female, but rather why use gaming as a platform for that, given it still seems backwards that you'd go against the goal of the game in order to get the "good stuff" (e.g. you're being rewarded for losing). Why take the time to play the game (or rather, intentionally fail) when you can spend 5 minutes on the CG folder and call it a day?

Not condemning or judging (esp because i play the same games y'all do). Just trying to understand. Also, if we're getting too tangential here, feel free to redirect the convo.
No problem, didn't take it that way.
And there was a thread about this already if you want more points of view: http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=30163

As for why not watch a movie instead, basically, in a game you get a lot more context. And games are better at building anticipation.

EDIT: I'm not one for fast-forwarding to the "good part". Anticipation is an important part of the experience for me.
 
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Thanks for your replies...I'm beginning to piece together the mindset. I do understand the "control" mentality. You can choose to be raped (quite oxymoronic, but it makes sense. It's why I enjoy those sorts of games but dislike Scalegarden's linear 'forced' plotlines).

Still, that doesn't really explain why you'd want to actually play a game to do that. If you so desire control, if you are willing to fast-forward to the "good parts", why not just play one of those simple flash games, or a point-and-click, or a visual novel? Hell, why not just actually watch an H-movie or something? True, you don't have the control, since you're forced into a linear progression of content, but you also don't need to invest or immerse yourselves into an actual game that requires you do actually do things and focuses on things other than H-content (e.g. graphics, gameplay, etc). In addition, H-games usually take a lot of time to create for that very reason, and finding/waiting for English translations is just as time-consuming for the individual.

My curiosity isn't necessarily asking why you'd want to play as a female, but rather why use gaming as a platform for that, given it still seems backwards that you'd go against the goal of the game in order to get the "good stuff" (e.g. you're being rewarded for losing). Why take the time to play the game (or rather, intentionally fail) when you can spend 5 minutes on the CG folder and call it a day?

Not condemning or judging (esp because i play the same games y'all do). Just trying to understand. Also, if we're getting too tangential here, feel free to redirect the convo.
Well, speaking for myself, I don't want to get just the "good stuff". I do want to also enjoy the gameplay, but if the game itself ends up being boring then yes, I will try to get the good stuff as fast as possible because it's not like I have time to waste on crappy games when there are so many new games every day.

Another thing to consider would be that it's not like every fetish is properly covered in non-game media. With that I mean not only how frequent anime that cover those fetishes are released, also their quality and, let's say, how hardcore.

And well, we can also get back to the control part. In anime you watch your 20~ish minutes and you are done. In games is more like "let's see what happens if I get the girl to work as a maid in that mansion...". The owner may fuck her. Maybe the wife is a futanari and joins in the fun. Who knows? They may even have a tentacle pet!. With a normal male MC you know you will just get into the house and fuck some maid, maybe the wife. That's it.
 

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Less Criticizing more hentai please.
 

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Online multiplayer maybe nah just playing:D.
 

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I feel like the biggest flaw here is simply going by a traditional HP and gameover system. It means you barely get any H-content per run, which is frustrating to see all of, and forces the majority of the gameplay to be generic non-H fare. If I had a team of magic development monkeys, I'd design such a game more like so...

No death or elimination from normal damage. HP slowly recovers, but it's maximum is very slightly reduced, by about a quarter of each hit taken. At 0 HP characters are knocked down, resulting in clothes shredding attacks followed by rape attacks. Rape attacks, especially ejaculation causes infection damage. During knockdown (including rape) HP recovers, and is needed as energy for the struggle free mechanic if no one else saves the character first. The only way to permanently lose a character, is from them reaching full infection, which occurs AFTER the mission.

This would make the H-content the primary means of receiving actual damage, and not just a game over scenario. Infection damage would remain persistent between levels. With limited means to reduce it, acquired in optional side areas/missions at the risk of gaining more infection in the process.

There would be multiple female characters which you could switch between for each mission, and would also choose which and how many you take with you. Damage to Max HP would restore slightly each mission, or fully if left to rest. Potential different endings could depend on the level of infection of each character.


It's all I want from the H-games market lately. Is for devs to learn to integrate the H-content with the actual gameplay, and stop just tacking on naughty animations to generic gameplay. Regardless of their genuine intentions, it rarely makes for a good H game. : |
 

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Still, that doesn't really explain why you'd want to actually play a game to do that. If you so desire control, if you are willing to fast-forward to the "good parts", why not just play one of those simple flash games, or a point-and-click, or a visual novel? Hell, why not just actually watch an H-movie or something? True, you don't have the control, since you're forced into a linear progression of content, but you also don't need to invest or immerse yourselves into an actual game that requires you do actually do things and focuses on things other than H-content (e.g. graphics, gameplay, etc). In addition, H-games usually take a lot of time to create for that very reason, and finding/waiting for English translations is just as time-consuming for the individual.

My curiosity isn't necessarily asking why you'd want to play as a female, but rather why use gaming as a platform for that, given it still seems backwards that you'd go against the goal of the game in order to get the "good stuff" (e.g. you're being rewarded for losing). Why take the time to play the game (or rather, intentionally fail) when you can spend 5 minutes on the CG folder and call it a day?
To clarify, my comment about being able to fast forward wasn't related to control, it was (tangentially) about level of investment.

My control over female MCs is akin to that of a director's control over a female actor, while my investment would be akin to that of a director's investment to a script; if it's a terrible script, I'm obviously going to spend more time with the scenes I like than the ones I don't, but if it's a good one I'll enjoy it as a whole.

And in my opinion a majority of H-games are terrible games, with many suffering from poor controls, UI, game design, optimization, etc. So why do I "play" them? Because that's just where the content is now. I can count on one hand how many anime titles involve zombies on girls (they all start with "Kansen" and aren't even proper zombies) and the past decade has seen a huge slowdown on tentacle-themed anime.

Also I do save the CG dumps, have a little over a terabyte of HCGs that I've collected over the past two decades :D
 

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I feel like the biggest flaw here is simply going by a traditional HP and gameover system. It means you barely get any H-content per run, which is frustrating to see all of, and forces the majority of the gameplay to be generic non-H fare. If I had a team of magic development monkeys, I'd design such a game more like so...

No death or elimination from normal damage. HP slowly recovers, but it's maximum is very slightly reduced, by about a quarter of each hit taken. At 0 HP characters are knocked down, resulting in clothes shredding attacks followed by rape attacks. Rape attacks, especially ejaculation causes infection damage. During knockdown (including rape) HP recovers, and is needed as energy for the struggle free mechanic if no one else saves the character first. The only way to permanently lose a character, is from them reaching full infection, which occurs AFTER the mission.

This would make the H-content the primary means of receiving actual damage, and not just a game over scenario. Infection damage would remain persistent between levels. With limited means to reduce it, acquired in optional side areas/missions at the risk of gaining more infection in the process.

There would be multiple female characters which you could switch between for each mission, and would also choose which and how many you take with you. Damage to Max HP would restore slightly each mission, or fully if left to rest. Potential different endings could depend on the level of infection of each character.


It's all I want from the H-games market lately. Is for devs to learn to integrate the H-content with the actual gameplay, and stop just tacking on naughty animations to generic gameplay. Regardless of their genuine intentions, it rarely makes for a good H game. : |
Succubus Heaven has that, and is indeed the one with better gameplay cause of it. this is they're starting game so I'm thinking of it more like a test, so they should only get better with feedback.
 

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The creator seemed receptive to adding H prior to having a girl be downed. Hopefully they'll add things like grabs that do little damage, but are still a negative to gameplay as they remove a girl's damage output while held.
 

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The only real question here is how many kinds of weird hats are gonna be in the game?
 

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Can't speak for others but personally I don't "self-insert", I don't see the MC as "me" in any way. More like I'm controlling a scene so to speak. And I for one am completely bored by vanilla, human-on-human H
Agreed
 
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