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EDIT: Btw, reading back through the thread it seems like you can get cirque the croix and there's an extra dungeon that gets unlocked? Where can I find cirque the croix and this extra dungeon after beating the game?
Near the last Tartarus of Part 2. You should see some ruins in the south east of that desert region. in the ruins there will be a door with a card scanner. to unlock it you need to use the key card you get during the plot dump before the part 2 end boss.
 

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Wait what? No more Xelvy? Please tell me that's a lie!

But he is the only one that gave us hardcore anal/futa! Also, numerous scenes with the childhood friend. Like, he is the only artist in the game that did multiple scene variations for her and many other characters.

My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.
 

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Wait what? No more Xelvy? Please tell me that's a lie!

But he is the only one that gave us hardcore anal/futa! Also, numerous scenes with the childhood friend. Like, he is the only artist in the game that did multiple scene variations for her and many other characters.

My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.
He's just not in charge of story event CGs anymore it seems. Pretty sure he still draws monster girls seeing that all the archangels are designed by him.
 
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He's just not in charge of story event CGs anymore it seems. Pretty sure he still draws monster girls seeing that all the archangels are designed by him.
There might even be more event CGs by Xelvy; there are already multiple artists doing these CGs (e.g. the Morrigan vs. Zion one is by UN_DO).
 
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The leader of the Six Ancestors, and a great monster who holds a deep trust in the Dark God. She bears the characteristics of lamias, harpies, and dragons, and possesses tremendous physical and magical capabilities. Although she has no defining strength among the Six Ancestors, she has an affinity for a balance of outstanding abilities. Saja has the greatest overall fighting ability amongst the Six Ancestors, and is known for being the strongest among them. Her power is said to rival Heaven's most powerful angels, Micaela and Lucifina.

In the parallel world known as "Makai" ruled by the Dark God, Saja does not rule over a city. She is the confidant and guardian of the Dark God, and rarely leaves her side. The Dark God does not move from her castle on the Monster Continent, so Saja leads the Dark God's armies as her adjutant. Saja has a strict and level-headed personality, but she appears to dislike excessive cruelty. She is deeply loyal to the Dark God, and it is rumored that she could become her successor.

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Saja dislikes atrocity, but as she is a monster, she finds no greater pleasure than in playing with men. She rapes defeated men and feeds upon them for her own enjoyment. As a yoma, it isn't unethical for her to squeeze challengers to death. That is to say, she is only exercising her natural right as the victor.
But there won't be a preview next month.
 

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But there won't be a preview next month.
And with this, there has been a preview for each of the Ancestors. We have also gotten 4 of the 7 Archangels (Plus Lucifina). If we are getting previews for everyone before release, it's at least another 4 months away, probably more.
 
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I've asked this elsewhere, but who do you plan on siding with first when Part 3 comes out: angels or monsters? I plan on siding with the angels first, since I'd like to find out just what their secrets are.
 

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ill side with the angel first also, if i remember the story right that make the lilith sisters your enemies and i kinda want more scenes with them

edit: i should also said i want to see ilias scenes since at the end of part 2 she back to normal, im still pretty sure both path at the start are the wrong choices since they want us to follow the path closest to the original game we cant really do that if ilias does not regain her form so ill be hoping if we beat both paths then on your third new game+ we be able to pick both for like the true ending or something i can only hope we really be able to do that in part 3.
 
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I've asked this elsewhere, but who do you plan on siding with first when Part 3 comes out: angels or monsters? I plan on siding with the angels first, since I'd like to find out just what their secrets are.
Angels here too.
I chose Illias as my ally so that the story would change. I feel like if I side with the angels I'd get the most unique story.
 

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Does seem like Angels are more popular. It's natural if you ask me, most people are interested in seeing Ilias's perspective of things when the original MGQ didn't give her too much time to develop.

But I'm much more interested in the Ancestors than any of the Paradox Angels, personally. Still intend to do Angels route first, though.
 

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I'd follow the angels. Not because I necessarily like them more, but because the monsters have proven beyond all doubt that it is not possible to coexist with them as a man unless you are a slave. I know the angels are unlikely to be any better, but theres at least a small chance since you are technically related to some of them and maybe had enough of an influence on Ilias over the course of the adventure. Also its something new since the angels were your main late game enemies in the original trilogy.
 

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That was honestly the appeal of the mod for the original MGQ, MQQ+ for me. Being able to choose to an alternative to Alice. Something about humans and monsters coexisting just didn't sit well, you just got feeling that humans would eventually be resigned to being a lesser species. As for the majority of the story most monsters only saw you as a meal or a mate. Consensual or unconsensual if one set an eye on a human they had little say, if any, say at all. At least for the majority of the story, angels were neutral and left humanity alone. Until Luka's defied his quest to slay the monster lord. For humanity, the best outcome would've been a state where monsters were removed and angels didn't interfere. Were Ilias not crazy, she'd easily be the best choice for humanities continued existence.

Plotwise it's bleak, don't think about it too hard. For a porn game it's a great setup.
 

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I'd follow the angels. Not because I necessarily like them more, but because the monsters have proven beyond all doubt that it is not possible to coexist with them as a man unless you are a slave. I know the angels are unlikely to be any better, but theres at least a small chance since you are technically related to some of them and maybe had enough of an influence on Ilias over the course of the adventure. Also its something new since the angels were your main late game enemies in the original trilogy.
That was honestly the appeal of the mod for the original MGQ, MQQ+ for me. Being able to choose to an alternative to Alice. Something about humans and monsters coexisting just didn't sit well, you just got feeling that humans would eventually be resigned to being a lesser species. As for the majority of the story most monsters only saw you as a meal or a mate. Consensual or unconsensual if one set an eye on a human they had little say, if any, say at all. At least for the majority of the story, angels were neutral and left humanity alone. Until Luka's defied his quest to slay the monster lord. For humanity, the best outcome would've been a state where monsters were removed and angels didn't interfere. Were Ilias not crazy, she'd easily be the best choice for humanities continued existence.

Plotwise it's bleak, don't think about it too hard. For a porn game it's a great setup.
I think you guys are forgetting the amount of potential humans had as leaders, fighters and producers. Soldiers did exist in the desert country who could take down the monsters that lived there.

Also, because the monsters were strong their society didn't progress at all. Hellgondo is nothing but empty nothingness and a might makes right location. If the humans are subordinate to the monsters based on a power relationship, then there are no emotional attachments, and it breeds resentment which would lead to more "heroes" appearing who would fight to kill monsters.

It's like this in the real world btw. Powerful countries like the USA who have more military might than most other countries combined, do not go around enslaving other countries and choose to intermingle with trade and the like.
 

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I think you guys are forgetting the amount of potential humans had as leaders, fighters and producers. Soldiers did exist in the desert country who could take down the monsters that lived there.

Also, because the monsters were strong their society didn't progress at all. Hellgondo is nothing but empty nothingness and a might makes right location. If the humans are subordinate to the monsters based on a power relationship, then there are no emotional attachments, and it breeds resentment which would lead to more "heroes" appearing who would fight to kill monsters.

It's like this in the real world btw. Powerful countries like the USA who have more military might than most other countries combined, do not go around enslaving other countries and choose to intermingle with trade and the like.
There's one issue with that, we're all humans and generally see each other as fellow humans. The power dynamic that would develop in the MGQ world likely would be lopsided in favor of the monsters. Regardless of who is monster lord. Succubus would likely fill in the role of local leaders, pacifying areas with a human like appearance with supernatural charm, while the more powerful monsters would still fill the high leadership roles. Combined with biological impulses far stronger than any human urge to copulate means this world as of MGQ. Where humans are sort of forced to intermingle with monsters, isn't pretty.
 

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I think you guys are forgetting the amount of potential humans had as leaders, fighters and producers. Soldiers did exist in the desert country who could take down the monsters that lived there.

Also, because the monsters were strong their society didn't progress at all. Hellgondo is nothing but empty nothingness and a might makes right location. If the humans are subordinate to the monsters based on a power relationship, then there are no emotional attachments, and it breeds resentment which would lead to more "heroes" appearing who would fight to kill monsters.

It's like this in the real world btw. Powerful countries like the USA who have more military might than most other countries combined, do not go around enslaving other countries and choose to intermingle with trade and the like.
There is no power balance between humans and monsters, no hero can even come close to challenging high ranking monsters. Its in a monsters nature to prey on humans, some can't get away from it so they were locked up in the original trilogy. The fragile peace only lasts as long as Luka and Alice are both there and cooperate, the second thats no longer the case humans are done without Illias, hell even Luka himself could easily have ended up as monster food after he saved the world because monsters have no conscience when it comes to that. Rape is like a handshake to a monster, Alice did it to Luka constantly, enslaving is no big deal to them, they are merciless. They do not need technology either given how insanely overpowered they are in comparison, and the humans are mostly still on a medieval level themselves so they do not exactly have the advantage here.
Comparing the monster realm to any real world country is so absurd I won't even adress it any further.
 

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They do not need technology either given how insanely overpowered they are in comparison, and the humans are mostly still on a medieval level themselves so they do not exactly have the advantage here.
Just to further think on this point, at the end of the novel RPG. Monsters as I mentioned before are at that point intermingling with monsters. Add to that there are intelligent monsters, if humans do start to get a technology edge. There'll be a faction of monsters smart enough to negate that advantage. In perspective humans are inferior monsters, foodstuffs at best. Anyone who'd dare oppose whatever state monsters enforce upon humanity is chow at best. At worst you get affixed to an anglerfish monster girl or some other form of eternal torment. I guess if you side with the monsters that's good end.
 

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The fragile peace only lasts as long as Luka and Alice are both there and cooperate, the second thats no longer the case humans are done without Illias, hell even Luka himself could easily have ended up as monster food after he saved the world because monsters have no conscience when it comes to that. Rape is like a handshake to a monster, Alice did it to Luka constantly, enslaving is no big deal to them, they are merciless.
Ah... that's a good point. Because they kept throwing special racial traits to Luka he technically doesn't stand on the side of "humanity" on the end so his actions don't count. Guess you can't expect much from the world-building of an eroge.
 

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Ah... that's a good point. Because they kept throwing special racial traits to Luka he technically doesn't stand on the side of "humanity" on the end so his actions don't count. Guess you can't expect much from the world-building of an eroge.
Don't forget it's femdom oriented and that requires a non-insignificant amount of contrivance already. That bleeding through to the world building should be expected.
 

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since we are all waiting for part 3 im going to ask a question if you could pick any character from all monster girl quest games to marry who would you pick? as for me it has to be Tamamo
also cant wait to have her as a party member.
 
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