ACT PUZ Vore Loli Ryona Guro [窓惑工房 / Window Frame] Dysthanasia (RJ01199228)

[inlolzwetrust]

Ooh I just realized, all of the demos are gone.
Did the developer remove them? Or, I think it's more likely that DLSite got around to reviewing the developer's game and threw an absolute shit fit when they saw the game contained gore (oh my god it's the end of the world!) and had no censorship.
DLSite probably removed the demos from the developer's Ci-En (which is part of DLSite btw) when they removed the DLSite page.
It reeeally looks like DLSite's been asking to get taken down a few pegs recently...

what are you talking about?


Edit: There's a new update from the dev explaining that the game didn't pass inspection even if the sample he submitted a while ago passed with no issues and he is now looking for another platform to realease it.

 

[SpectreHD]

Fuck the Western totalitarian moral authority fuckwits using access to payment services to force their ideology onto others.

 

[skeith]

Makes me wonder if that new enemy he showed in recent news, or the final boss, or some story content he added at the end was so nasty it pushed the game beyond expectations and they revoked his permissions because of that?

That actually gets me even more hyped for the game, but I fear it may end up hard to find / buy for people.

 

[Azure2290]

Makes me wonder if that new enemy he showed in recent news, or the final boss, or some story content he added at the end was so nasty it pushed the game beyond expectations and they revoked his permissions because of that?

That actually gets me even more hyped for the game, but I fear it may end up hard to find / buy for people.

I think it might be a really silly thing. Absolutely dumb and possibly and unfortunately on the creator. Lack of censorship on the genitals. If you check out the demo, there is no censorship. And I wonder how much they showed that got approved didn't actually show the genitals or clear visible shot of a sex act.

Like months beforehand I believe you couldn't move the camera around so game over scenes wouldn't really let you see the sex act clearly. But with camera control and zero pixelation, that's probably what got it declined.

Plenty of content shows guro and sex on DLsite. So I have to assume based on the demo the author messed up and didn't have ANY censorship for the final version.

 

[SoulLess Child]

That's a good question, because at first you might not think there are any alternatives to the big pieces of shit.
*snip* like it or not.

Still would be hard to sell the thing, especially if they want to do so at the international level.

Fuck the Western totalitarian moral authority fuckwits using access to payment services to force their ideology onto others.

Basic Japanese censor laws have little to nothing to do with Western things.

 

[BapZap]

what are you talking about?
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Alright, someone's fucking with me!
I swear, I looked at the posts and the only things left were the two .txt files.
I saw someone's post somewhere else on the internet saying the demos were all removed. I swear they were gone when I checked, but now the newest demo is back.
I must have missed one of the posts, or one demo was put back up?

Makes me wonder if that new enemy he showed in recent news, or the final boss, or some story content he added at the end was so nasty it pushed the game beyond expectations and they revoked his permissions because of that?

A good possibility. We can only hope there's so much more content we haven't seen, and it was something in the new stuff that triggered them.
I feel like DLSite just straight up lied to the developer about being able to pass inspection, or they went shitbrain and changed their minds after the fact.

I think it might be a really silly thing. Absolutely dumb and possibly and unfortunately on the creator. Lack of censorship on the genitals. If you check out the demo, there is no censorship. And I wonder how much they showed that got approved didn't actually show the genitals or clear visible shot of a sex act.

Like months beforehand I believe you couldn't move the camera around so game over scenes wouldn't really let you see the sex act clearly. But with camera control and zero pixelation, that's probably what got it declined.

No way... Censorship would be very easy to add to a game, with a simple mesh & shader combination. SoulLess said that DLSite is cracking down on this because it's "too easy to remove" but it's even easier for a gamedev to add... There's no way...
I think I've seen demos of games before where they have no censorship in development, but it's only added in the full DLSite release. I can't remember which games I've seen this on.
... Maybe you could see past the censorship if you moved the camera at certain angles? He missed something? There's no way the dev actually tried to submit this completely uncensored...

 

[skeith]

IIRC even his DLSite pictures featured heavy censors, even on guro?

 

[SoulLess Child]

IIRC even his DLSite pictures featured heavy censors, even on guro?

DLSite is quite heavy on the censorship.

 

[SpectreHD]

Basic Japanese censor laws have little to nothing to do with Western things.

I think it is more like DLsite has to scrub guro AND characters of questionable age due to wanting to get Visa and Mastercard processing back. Many guro themed products existed before but add in underage characters, we get Visa and Mastercard pulling out due to outside influence. Everything went to shit the moment DLsite lost Visa and Mastercard pulled out and we all know the reason for that.

 

[SoulLess Child]

I think it is more like DLsite has to scrub guro AND characters of questionable age due to wanting to get Visa and Mastercard processing back. Many guro themed products existed before but add in underage characters, we get Visa and Mastercard pulling out due to outside influence. Everything went to shit the moment DLsite lost Visa and Mastercard pulled out and we all know the reason for that.

DLSite has always been heavier on censorship than other online store, but they haven't removed much content due to guro, vore, loli or shota, even if they renamed some of the tags, however, they are very lax about copyrights infringement which isn't helping with payment processors.

 

[SpectreHD]

DLSite has always been heavier on censorship than other online store, but they haven't removed much content due to guro, vore, loli or shota, even if they renamed some of the tags, however, they are very lax about copyrights infringement which isn't helping with payment processors.

There are a number of creators I follow that has had to remove their works because of the characters in their work can be perceived as young despite having no guro whatsoever especially if their characters are modelled to be more on the realistic side. On their ci-en one at least stated they have to change the character type due to this.

So it may be a combination of things as you stated but I believe the final push and main driving force is the perception of young characters in the works. The West have always criticised the portrayal of young characters not only in hentai but also harmless anime like Girls und Panzer.

But from what I see of the creators that are forced to pull their works on DLsite and ci-en, it is the portrayal of young characters that have caused these SJWs to complain to payment processers to pull their services.

We will see if simply censoring the guro parts would be enough to get the game approved.

 

[SoulLess Child]

That could be a bit more recent...
Games and other often have a "all characters are 18 and above" disclaimer, so anything suggesting they aren't could be an issue. And "realistic" look is something DLSite has been more careful about for a while now.

 

[super_slicer]

harmless anime like Girls und Panzer.

If it's like 90% of other anime that's cast is composed primarily of young girls it's rife with "fanservice" to the point of being ecchi. It may be harmless but it's fuckin cringe too. I'd far rather the time spent on panty-shots and foggy bath scenes ( or the asinine beach episode that anime studios seem to think is obligatory to every series ) be spent on plot or character development. I'm not watching anime or reading manga to perv out, that's what porn/hentai is for.

 

[skeith]

I'm not watching anime or reading manga to perv out, that's what porn/hentai is for.

If you can like one, you can like the other. No need to act like your tastes are more refined than those of others. In the end it's all harmless opinions.

 

[SoulLess Child]

If it's like 90% of other anime that's cast is composed primarily of young girls it's rife with "fanservice" to the point of being ecchi. It may be harmless but it's fuckin cringe too. I'd far rather the time spent on panty-shots and foggy bath scenes ( or the asinine beach episode that anime studios seem to think is obligatory to every series ) be spent on plot or character development. I'm not watching anime or reading manga to perv out, that's what porn/hentai is for.

True, but guess which one sell more.

 

[super_slicer]

True, but guess which one sell more.

Might be closer than you think with all the free porn floating around, it's easier to get free porn than free anime. Though I would put my money on porn for it's broader appeal.

If you can like one, you can like the other.

I'm not positive I know what you're trying to say here so I'm going to assume you mean that the two things need not be separate for the media to be good. That isn't wholly incorrect as I've seen several hentai and H-games with worthwhile and/or interesting stories but it definitely comes down to execution which the anime industry fails at. What they create time and again is puerile excuses to put underage characters nude or near-nude on screen.

No need to act like your tastes are more refined than those of others. In the end it's all harmless opinions.

I'm not acting, I'm outright stating that if your taste is for such things, you've got bad taste. And bro my opinion is TOTALLY harmful, like a wet market near a virology lab harmful XD.

 

[SpectreHD]

If it's like 90% of other anime that's cast is composed primarily of young girls it's rife with "fanservice" to the point of being ecchi. It may be harmless but it's fuckin cringe too. I'd far rather the time spent on panty-shots and foggy bath scenes ( or the asinine beach episode that anime studios seem to think is obligatory to every series ) be spent on plot or character development. I'm not watching anime or reading manga to perv out, that's what porn/hentai is for.

Well, it isn't. It's in the name. It is just girls doing school vs. school doing competive PvP battles in real tanks. And somehow that is enough for a British "journalist" doing an interview with the creator to lecture him that Japan needs to stop making stuff like it and be more like them. Yeah sure (going a bit political here) be like the country that allowed grooming gangs to run free enslaving actual underage girls into sex slaves.

I am not going to continue this topic anymore but it is my belief that all the sudden scrubbing of content on DLsite because Visa/Mastercard pulled out was due to woke SJWs putting pressure on those payment processors because their services were being used on a porn site.

 

[RJ392643]

Watching this thread:

 

[SoulLess Child]

Might be closer than you think with all the free porn floating around, it's easier to get free porn than free anime. Though I would put my money on porn for it's broader appeal.

I was mainly pointing out that fanservice/"sex" sell, and that there are series/works where it's the main selling point (even if not intended).

 

[super_slicer]

Well, it isn't. It's in the name. It is just girls doing school vs. school doing competive PvP battles in real tanks. And somehow that is enough for a British "journalist" doing an interview with the creator to lecture him that Japan needs to stop making stuff like it and be more like them. Yeah sure (going a bit political here) be like the country that allowed grooming gangs to run free enslaving actual underage girls into sex slaves.

I am not going to continue this topic anymore but it is my belief that all the sudden scrubbing of content on DLsite because Visa/Mastercard pulled out was due to woke SJWs putting pressure on those payment processors because their services were being used on a porn site.

Well that's rare, I'll give it a watch then.

While most journalists are hypocritical progressive scum and this doesn't excuse the problem, it was my understanding that the grooming gangs weren't composed of what we'd consider to be British people ethnically or culturally but instead migrants/immigrants/'asylum' seekers from a certain region of the world.

Watching this thread:
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