TheUnsaid
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Yeah, I'm thinking the same.
Either that or we'll start seeing enemy time mages use their op status effects.
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Either that or we'll start seeing enemy time mages use their op status effects.
*laughs in Apoptosis*
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but yeah .. at this point in time it feels like nothing the game throws at us in part 3 will pose any significant danger
It will be like the beginning of Part 2 if you grinded some more jobs etc. at the end of Part 1
you will just roll though the new conent up to a certain point where enemies will start to scale properly
I think the level cap needs to be raised by at least 100% -- I think that the new Level Cap should be at least 150 - if not even 200
because we already cleared nearly one whole world with lv 60 - let's say when we are done with the Monster Lord Castle we will be lv 65
but then we need to fight our way through the other worlds + new extra content like the Black Tanuki etc
Let's say every World could add another 50 level at least, depending on the amount of content per world
but when I read that the Anceestors all occupie a major city and Saja + the Dark Goddess reside in the Monster Lord Castle on Hellgondo .. I feel like it could be a travel at least though the whole Sentora continent .. so with both worlds we should get at the very least another 60 level of content, maybe even more
We have to keep in mind that the way we are right now will not be the way that a completely new playthough is done
a few days ago I beat S.Chaos on normal (tbh with a suboptimal team) but it was a hard fight .. so I imagine the new content will be a bit easier than the Ilias Temple Ruins
and will steadily increase in difficulty so that by the time you reach the monster lord castle or at the very least when we go into the next Tarttarus rift, it should be a decent challenge for every team.
I'm playing a NG+ right now to find a decent diffuculty for my team that is not too hard but not too easy, just a nice, fair challenge .. right now I'm on hard but I think Very Hard - or even Hell will be my "normal" for the first content in Part 3 .. the fight against S.Chaos will show me what I will choose.
So long story short, I don't think standart enemys will be incredibly OP in any regard
And we as the player have a choice on how hard we want the fights to be with changing the difficulty setting
of course .. If you run a combo that is able to kill Super Bosses in LoC without LoC equipment .. you will probably have no fun with the game
but that is not the way, the game is meant to be played
just my 2 cents
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First what's LoC?
I've seen that term used before but don't know what it means.
I'm not sure if your level predictions are correct btw. I doubt the game will allow the player to level too much in this last chapter. It might even do some bullshit and limit your stats, through some Six Ancestor's great seal stuff. In the original game Part 3, Luca lost his connection to the spirits. I wouldn't be surprised if they force your level down in Part 3 to re-introduce some challenges.
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LOC means labyrinth of chaos , the extra dungeon where you unlock once you finish the game there you can grind for your XP but for job XP is horrible and all the floors is extremely RNG you don’t know what kinda of enemy you go deal with and every 10 floors you go face a superb Boss win against them you get strong equipment and all the equip you find here cannot be used outside the dungeon
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Where is that?
the LoC is in Hades (the door on the second floor of Ilias Temple) .. the bookshelf on the left should be the entrance iirc
as already said, it's pretty much post-game content where you can really challenge the absolut limit of what's possible
these Super Bosses are hitting you with over 2 Billion damage though so you need a very specific team and planning/mapping out the fight against them
but without much planning or specific Teams I was able to go up to floor 300 after grinding some good gear and was able to hit over 30 million without buffs
it's a fun little plaything but to beat the most extreme bosses you need to invest more than I am willing to do
PS:
just to point things out: These Super Bosses are not every 10 floors but every 100 floors - but a normal Boss fight every 10
also the Job XP grind is pretty awesome with the Trials of Chaos that are only 10 floors and you get tons of Job XP for everyone in your party (main and reserve)
it is RNG what enemys you see in the LoC and have different weakness then her normal counterpart, some even suddenly reflect physical damage .. but as far as I can remember, these properties are always the same
The Trials of Chaos always have a specific type of enemy, as I said only 10 floors and different levels of difficulty - where the LoC gets harder the higher you go
as already said, it's pretty much post-game content where you can really challenge the absolut limit of what's possible
these Super Bosses are hitting you with over 2 Billion damage though so you need a very specific team and planning/mapping out the fight against them
but without much planning or specific Teams I was able to go up to floor 300 after grinding some good gear and was able to hit over 30 million without buffs
it's a fun little plaything but to beat the most extreme bosses you need to invest more than I am willing to do
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just to point things out: These Super Bosses are not every 10 floors but every 100 floors - but a normal Boss fight every 10
also the Job XP grind is pretty awesome with the Trials of Chaos that are only 10 floors and you get tons of Job XP for everyone in your party (main and reserve)
it is RNG what enemys you see in the LoC and have different weakness then her normal counterpart, some even suddenly reflect physical damage .. but as far as I can remember, these properties are always the same
The Trials of Chaos always have a specific type of enemy, as I said only 10 floors and different levels of difficulty - where the LoC gets harder the higher you go
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LoC is great to grind XP, also could be a real challenge specially if you alredy defeated La croix, alma elma and Orochi, some bosses of LoC could be absurdly powerful
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Don’t forget Judgement and Worldbreaker is the beyond Op as fuck they can expurge your party from existence in 3 turns and Marcellus is the 3rd Op LOC boss
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yeah the LoC keeps the wait of the part 3 interesting, also since its easy to grind there I can try several builds with different girls
Reminder that if you start grinding LoC, you're very likely to balance-break the remainder of the main story when it comes out. Just as the enemies from LoC are broken, infinitely-scaling statmonsters that can get up to millions to billions of stats, the equipment from LoC are just as broken, infinitely-scaling statmonsters that can get you up to millions of stats.
You should probably keep a separate save before doing anything LoC-related so you can have some tension from main story fights. When part 3 comes out anyway.
You should probably keep a separate save before doing anything LoC-related so you can have some tension from main story fights. When part 3 comes out anyway.
that's a part I'm not really sure of
I already saw a few comments that we won't be able to use the LoC gear outside the LoC
it's been a while since I logged into my 2yr old file but if I remember correctly I was able to use the gear outside
maybe the gear will be disabled once Part 3 is released or is linked to Hades and only works in this realm ... that really looks like an upside-down version of the spacetime rift between Tarterus and I still can't shake the feeling, that this is the connection to the original world and will be our final stop ... because if we go though there "everything is over" = the story is concluded
well, let's see how they try to manage that part
but the fact is: you can grind a high amount of job xp there - that fact can not be changed and while not completely breaking the balance of the game, it removes a huge junk of grind
also you obvisouly won't get the achievement to clear the game without entering the LoC - for this fact alone I recommand a seperate save file
I copied the whole folder, deleted everything in the save folder and got a fresh game without achievement for my fresh experience.
This Game will be my Part 3 game - if I ever decide to go into the LoC with this file I'll copy it into the first folder with my other LoC save files
I already saw a few comments that we won't be able to use the LoC gear outside the LoC
it's been a while since I logged into my 2yr old file but if I remember correctly I was able to use the gear outside
maybe the gear will be disabled once Part 3 is released or is linked to Hades and only works in this realm ... that really looks like an upside-down version of the spacetime rift between Tarterus and I still can't shake the feeling, that this is the connection to the original world and will be our final stop ... because if we go though there "everything is over" = the story is concluded
well, let's see how they try to manage that part
but the fact is: you can grind a high amount of job xp there - that fact can not be changed and while not completely breaking the balance of the game, it removes a huge junk of grind
also you obvisouly won't get the achievement to clear the game without entering the LoC - for this fact alone I recommand a seperate save file
I copied the whole folder, deleted everything in the save folder and got a fresh game without achievement for my fresh experience.
This Game will be my Part 3 game - if I ever decide to go into the LoC with this file I'll copy it into the first folder with my other LoC save files
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but he is right even without the equippement you get crazy amounts of EXP and job exp. for example my luka alredy mastered all mid jobs and all his races (including Vampire). also they warned to have spare party members because some would left you on part 3 but since I played LoC I have lots of replacements just in case
okay, that's the first time I hear that some might leave the party in Part 3 .. where did you read that?
If it's truen then I hope it's only temporary ... but tbh I could imagine Alicetroemeria to leave the party for good at some point because ... reasons
As long as they let me keep Alma Elma and Alice, I should be safe .. but who knows ..
If what you are saying is true, everything can happen .. Alma Elma could run off to have a 1vs1 fight against Minagi, Alice could get transported to the other side of the continent (again).. or we end up as prisoner, our pocket castle gets taken and we have to fight alone for a while ... damn .. now I'm really worried .. guess I will prepare a few more characters just in case
normally I fight with 4 characters only, Eva as reserve for thief and mercentry abilitys/skills and the rest of my group pretty much consists of characters for interesting bits and pieces of story - or funny interaction
for example Promestein, Chrome, Hilde, Nurukyuu~, Alicetroemeria ... I'm training a few jobs and races with them but never actually considered them as a part of my fighting force .. I should take my reserve party a bit more serious I guess
PS:
I was able to beat Black Alice too (in Heinrichs timeline) and got the Seven Crow Mirror
checked the Wiki and it seems like there is no use for it yet, or is the wiki not complete and somebody knows what I can do with it?
I have the feeling this Mirror is needed to reach the Elf Village above Yamatai, but that could actually be planned for Part 3 and the Mirror is really worthless until then
but if there is a use for it - or any way to get up that mountain - would be nice if someone could give me a hint
If it's truen then I hope it's only temporary ... but tbh I could imagine Alicetroemeria to leave the party for good at some point because ... reasons
As long as they let me keep Alma Elma and Alice, I should be safe .. but who knows ..
If what you are saying is true, everything can happen .. Alma Elma could run off to have a 1vs1 fight against Minagi, Alice could get transported to the other side of the continent (again).. or we end up as prisoner, our pocket castle gets taken and we have to fight alone for a while ... damn .. now I'm really worried .. guess I will prepare a few more characters just in case
normally I fight with 4 characters only, Eva as reserve for thief and mercentry abilitys/skills and the rest of my group pretty much consists of characters for interesting bits and pieces of story - or funny interaction
for example Promestein, Chrome, Hilde, Nurukyuu~, Alicetroemeria ... I'm training a few jobs and races with them but never actually considered them as a part of my fighting force .. I should take my reserve party a bit more serious I guess
PS:
I was able to beat Black Alice too (in Heinrichs timeline) and got the Seven Crow Mirror
checked the Wiki and it seems like there is no use for it yet, or is the wiki not complete and somebody knows what I can do with it?
I have the feeling this Mirror is needed to reach the Elf Village above Yamatai, but that could actually be planned for Part 3 and the Mirror is really worthless until then
but if there is a use for it - or any way to get up that mountain - would be nice if someone could give me a hint
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Alma Elma and doesn't actually join you for story reasons. She's just a character that gets recruited. I don't know how they're gonna handle that in Part 3.
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I dont remember if it was on the wikia or in torotoro´s blog but if I remember correctly they said that they recomend to train some extra party members because in some routes some party members may leave/die but they would join again if you restart the game with reaper.
it was about 6 or 7 months ago so i dont remember quite well
it was about 6 or 7 months ago so i dont remember quite well
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As far as I remember the developer said that LoC saves would be incompatible with part 3. There is even some sort of warning that you should make a separate save file before attempting LoC.
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Not incompatible, merely that there will be an achievement for clearing the game without entering LoC once
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when part 2 was released my part 1 party trained on LoC was unstopable, I even beat leviathan and orochi right after meeting them so yeah I believe this time Ill moderate my power somehow, maybe using only part 3 party members or non trained part 2 and 1