Dark Gate OOC Thread

[Keylo]

Re: PbP Interest Check(And OOC Thread)

Powerful as in she could pretty much do everything with Animate till recently (until DG 3 makes it useful again), in the same manner that stone shape and casters in DG 1 could do everything. Naturally most of that stuff relies on the "lack of actual mechanics rule clause" and/or alpha strike nuke to just one shot anything provided they get initiative. Now if you want someone who hasn't gotten raped based on raw mechanics power...I'd advise you look at Hafnium's thread (though the character's still extremely interesting.)

Also, if I was making someone brainless to play, I'd make a repeat of LOLLUNA from yonder years ago.

 

[GargantuaBlarg]

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I'm just saying. It seems to me that each class had a different schtick - Warriors were really tough, on account of most defenses and counters being based on Body (grapple, dodge, HP, etc) and didn't have to worry about EP, Spirits being ded killy with their alpha strike capability, and mages being very versatile, at the expense of not really having huge guts or blamminess unless they passed those checks, which AFAIK is open to interference with by stuff like damage and penetration in a way that none of the other classes are. In comparison, fighters can sword things alright, and have a much easier time beating things like grapple rolls, and spirits, IIRC, don't have to pass a casting check to actually get their mindbullets off.

So, the Mage can cast all L1 & 2s - many of which are functionally identical or of limited use, which are limited to one per post/round. Comparatively, the fighter gets continuous free special abilities (which I don't know much about, but I recall Hafnium pulling some test with 'em and doing ~100), the spirit gets a free talent (which is kinda just like 8 free exp), and the succubus gets discounted talents.


I'm pretty sure that could have been shorter, also.

 

[Hafnium]

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Free skills for warriors, to me anyway, feels like warriors being brought in line with spirit users and casters and how their powers and spells are obtained. Previously, skills would require the player to not only take one of the warrior talent prerequisites but also Skilled as well in order to gain any skills. In comparison, mages gained free access to all the level 1-2 spells (which, admittedly, of 59 only a tenth of those are probably unique enough to gain any use when the mage has a focus) and with one talent in focus they can gain access to level 3-5 and a bonus to casting spells from that school. Spirit users will be gaining 3 powers with one talent in whatever school of power they want to learn just for the prerequisite talent, previously it was 2.

That said, I dunno about the free spirit user talent, it feels like it might be a bit strong in comparison to the rest. Succubus lowered XP cost seems understandable to me if only because they don't have access to most combat skills and extra growth basically means that they don't have to rely on sex for everything they do. It also fits the whole 'leeching people's souls for fun and profit' thing.

Also, I will note that, yes, the way things are currently looking for DG3 it will be more possible than ever for a well built warrior character to hit for 100+ damage with some sense of reliability.

 

[Tassadar]

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Skills also tend to be something of a trade off compared to Powers and Spells. Generally, you're trading likelihood to hit for more attack power or stronger defenses. Granted, most of the skills offer a net profit in the long run, but using, say, a level 2 buff spell to increase Dodge gives a mage with 30 Mind, who will generally have at least 25 Dodge, an extra 12, at the cost of a measly 2 EP. To a warrior, they'd have to either sacrifice 12 points from every one of their attack rolls, or not make any attacks and pray that they don't get hit. A Spirit Wielder would usually have to pay twice that much EP, every turn, to maintain the same increase to Dodge, though they would also get a bunch of other bonuses along with it.

I'm sure that I'll get to nerfing Skills a little at some point, as right now they are a little bit too powerful. I fiddled them a little bit after Hafnium's number crunching, but not enough.

 

[GargantuaBlarg]

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Another thing that I didn't realize until just now is that, unless something's changed, the Mage's special is widely available to all characters, whereas the others will be, I assume, unique to those of the Warrior/Spirit/Succubus class. As it is now, if you take Natural Mage, you automatically gain the ability to cast all L1s and L2s. I'm assuming this is the exception, and you don't autoget free skills if you take Natural Warrior, or exp discounts if you take Natural Succubus?

 

[Tassadar]

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Another thing that I didn't realize until just now is that, unless something's changed, the Mage's special is widely available to all characters, whereas the others will be, I assume, unique to those of the Warrior/Spirit/Succubus class. As it is now, if you take Natural Mage, you automatically gain the ability to cast all L1s and L2s. I'm assuming this is the exception, and you don't autoget free skills if you take Natural Warrior, or exp discounts if you take Natural Succubus.

People taking Natural Mage won't be getting that anymore.

 

[GargantuaBlarg]

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What's the plan now, then? Are they limited to taking Focus talents?

 

[Mamono Assault Force]

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I originally thought "Focus in" enabled magic to begin with. Sounds a bit crazy to have EVERYTHING available to you from the start.

 

[Tassadar]

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What's the plan now, then? Are they limited to taking Focus talents?

Focus or Experienced Caster will earn some spells.

 

[Tassadar]

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I should probably officially say that sign ups for this are closed until further notice. For the current game, at least.

Also, I will be looking to conclude things within the foreseeable future. Some threads may start wrapping up sooner than others, but I will try to make sure that everyone finishes inside of the same rough time frame, so that no one feels like they got kicked out. That said, this could take several more months. Bear with me here.

 

[xgkf]

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Personally? I'm in no rush. If I'm honest, I'm having too much fun with Vira's little misadventure(s) with Rachel to even care that much about the main story, really.

 

[GargantuaBlarg]

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Damn.

I don't suppose the Thunder God has a SAM battery in his church I can shoot at the skyball?

 

[lurker]

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Now I feel bad for starting late :<

 

[Tassadar]

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Now I feel bad for starting late :<

It's all good. I'm sure that I'll manage to get Mithral into some horrid, monster filled misadventure.

Damn.

I don't suppose the Thunder God has a SAM battery in his church I can shoot at the skyball?

....Maybe........ >.>

 

[Hafnium]

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My PC has already been involved in the death of an over-sized tree that threatened to corrupt the world without direct intervention. Barring character development and victory smut (or: how to become warped in a single night while staying with the fey), I am concerned to see how much more of a conclusion could still yet remain. >.>

 

[GargantuaBlarg]

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Succubus powers...

Well, there could be a drain-via-normal-touch thing, maybe? Draining at a lesser rate via punching them would be fun too.

Temporary Stat drain and talent stealing?

Some kind of "oh no, don't hit me, I'm really pretty" passive? Apparently the Succubi from Disgaea 3 have that, or something.

I'd say an ability that let you lose PP in place of EP or HP (separate abilities, of course)... but that sounds kinda dumb even compared to all the other suggestions. >_>

 

[Mamono Assault Force]

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I WANNA PLAY NOOOOOOW

 

[Hafnium]

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GargantuaBlarg's idea of a "don't hit me I'm pretty" type power is neat (although I also like temporary talent thievery or a temporary stat buff after sexing something into unconsciousness and a minor PP/EP drain via touch thing). Although in my opinion an activated EP to dodge style ability might be the way to go there, or maybe PP to dodge? Not too functionally different from defensive fighting, trade the EP or PP to dodge for one round and allow other succubus powers (but not magic or spirit abilities) to be used on the same round. It could even give a small bonus to Charm, or something.

There could also be a minor shapeshifting spell that allows some control over the succubus' sexual aspects (T&A growth, basically, maybe other attraction factors such as hair color but nothing so serious as full body changes like skin color and facial appearance). I'm having trouble thinking of a way that this would be directly mechanically useful in itself but it could be combined with the fluff of being useful to allow the succubus to comfortably accommodate larger creatures and thus lower the amount of damage taken from rape. It could be 1:1 EP or PP trade for damage lowered. Plus, it has plenty of RP usefulness.

Finally, some sort of Fetish or Open Soul detection spell? A simple cast to determine what kind of additional PP and EP damage flaws and mutations an enemy has. To be useful it kind of relies on being around NPCs or enemies that actually have that sort of thing, though. Probably my worst suggestion since it puts more work on the GM. >.>

 

[Tassadar]

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Added some more based on suggestions from the lot of you.

 

[maikochan]

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I'll mention my idea from before of a sort of 'Delay Orgasm' Succubus power. Would allow a succubus to keep her partner(s) from climaxing until a certain point, but PP would still accumulate, so if they've been delayed sufficiently long, they might have multiple climaxes.