Re: [1/27] *Update* Comprehensive patreon list
I get what you're saying about the kind of contradictory nature of the forums, but that's just how the admins wanna run it. Also;
And posting free links to western H games is taboo because of how tiny the industry is in the west. So if all we do is pirate the blooming industry, there will be no industry.
This is more about respect. People still share links via PM, but it is just rude to go into a thread created by the author of the game, where that author interacts with his/her fans, and post a pirated link. If Japanese authors were posting here, you would see the same mentality.
These are great points (and ILL is a Japanese developer AFAIK, as is the developer of Parasite in City, and I BELIEVE those two haven't had links to their games shared publicly, or if they did, people got pissed about it because they post frequently in their own topics, again this is just as far as I know, I could be wrong).
Also the point you made about language barriers, and some western H-games intentionally try to appeal more culturally to western tastes as well (voice actresses not being super high pitched, for example) etc.
10 years ago you could buy new PC games for 10$ - like Warcraft Counter Strike etc. Where amount of work is impropotional to small games like this ...
However, I had to reply to this; in what universe was Counterstrike or Warcraft $10 at release (since you said new)? Both of those games were definitely more than $10 at release, and that was in an economy where $10 was more expensive than it is today.
And if you're saying as in literally just 10 or so years ago, MAYBE, yeah, but that's because at that point they were USED games, they had been out for years and years, etc.
So even if we were to assume that CS and WC were $10 at launch, in some mystery universe, the indie Patreon games you're talking about are also brand new, and yes, they may not have as much content as something massive like Warcraft or as much replay-ability as Counterstrike...
...but indie games are free to do things that large, AAA games are not.
AAA games are constrained by their publisher, their sibling companies, the public eye, and a number of other things, leading to them being stifled when it comes to creativity quite often; this isn't a rule, of course, as there are many AAA games that are very creative, unique, etc. so on, but they are definitely few and far between for those above reasons.
With indie games, what you're paying for are games that have no rules (besides ones set by the legal system); they're able to do things and give you experiences that AAA games, usually, would simply not risk, because if say, the new Call of Duty goes downhill because they tried some new risky, interesting, innovative thing in it, it would mean the end of their entire company, millions of dollars lost, thousands of people out of a job, so forth.
The second thing for the Patreon games specifically here is that they're porn games, and porn almost always commands a premium simply because it's something that's "taboo" in society, much like how alcohol, cigarettes, lingerie, etc. the list goes on, all command higher than average prices of things that are similar to them, but don't have that "taboo" element (or in other cases, a "fancy" or "upscale" element to them).
So given that the average AAA game will cost you a minimum of $30-40 nowadays, with the average price being more like $50-60, yes, you should expect quite a bit more gameplay time available in those games, but in no way was Counterstrike or WC ever $10 on release (and in the completely mindboggling possibility that i'm wrong here, $10 was still more expensive in 2001 than it is now.)
I dont want to atack Eromancer here - but entire scene of Patreon productions seams to be getting out of hand.
How is Eromancer involved in this
He's got a Patreon but there are many other people doing Patreon games besides him, independently of him, etc.
