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Re: *UPDATE* [7/27] Comprehensive patreon list
How about giving its own thread here on ULMF a visit?
How about giving its own thread here on ULMF a visit?
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StalkerRoguen
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Re: *UPDATE* [7/27] Comprehensive patreon list
Hey, can you update my video? I made a new one...
Hey, can you update my video? I made a new one...
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meh65
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Re: *UPDATE* [7/27] Comprehensive patreon list
Have you ever tried to MAKE a game. It isn't easy. Any of these projects, ANY of these can be used as an example. What you are bitching about is stupid, you are complaining about games (usually made by a single person) are reusing assets and only modifying them, instead of making brand new assets for EVERYTHING.
Have you seen youtube videos...like OH IDK lets play videos...THAT is the kind of shit that takes NO WORK. They sit there, and play a game others made and just scream or laugh at them, and get paid to do so. The only "work" they have to do is editing, and even the top lets players haven't even started doing that till maybe a year or two ago.
Have you ever tried to MAKE a game. It isn't easy. Any of these projects, ANY of these can be used as an example. What you are bitching about is stupid, you are complaining about games (usually made by a single person) are reusing assets and only modifying them, instead of making brand new assets for EVERYTHING.
Have you seen youtube videos...like OH IDK lets play videos...THAT is the kind of shit that takes NO WORK. They sit there, and play a game others made and just scream or laugh at them, and get paid to do so. The only "work" they have to do is editing, and even the top lets players haven't even started doing that till maybe a year or two ago.
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Re: *UPDATE* [8/31] Comprehensive patreon list
I can't stand text only stuff like CoC, but limited pics like defilers wings was ok. I am ok with 60 40, or even 80 20 as long as that 80% of game is captivating.
Zombie life is actually pretty neat, If they can integrate more fun features I would call it one of the best rpg PORN games around.
For those of who don't know, zombie life is a UxL clone with the gameplay of "this war of mine".
I can't stand text only stuff like CoC, but limited pics like defilers wings was ok. I am ok with 60 40, or even 80 20 as long as that 80% of game is captivating.
Zombie life is actually pretty neat, If they can integrate more fun features I would call it one of the best rpg PORN games around.
For those of who don't know, zombie life is a UxL clone with the gameplay of "this war of mine".
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Re: *UPDATE* [8/31] Comprehensive patreon list
C'mon - even you have to admit The Last Sovereign works even without pics (although if Sierra gets around to adding art it will be over the top...)
C'mon - even you have to admit The Last Sovereign works even without pics (although if Sierra gets around to adding art it will be over the top...)
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Indeed, but TLS is well written, and a lot of text-only games just aren't, or don't even have a story to begin with.
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Zombie Life? Do you have a link? I found an iphone game, but I doubt it's even remotely related to something sexy.
Zombie Life? Do you have a link? I found an iphone game, but I doubt it's even remotely related to something sexy.
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Re: *UPDATE* [8/31] Comprehensive patreon list
I usually find the text dumps in CoC to be quite irritating. If I wanted to do THAT much reading then I'd just read a book. I feel like dialogue should be short, sweet, and to the point. Minimal dialogue always makes for a better gaming experience, at least IMO.
The only game I've ever played that was text heavy, that did a good job of it, was Betrayal at Krondor. The likes of which will probably never happen again.
Well, admittedly I did enjoy ZafeHouse Diaries for a while, but all the text is actually relevant.
In CoC it's like, "you put on your wizard had and cape. You both get lubed up. You stroke the pecker while your wet pussy glistens in the sunlight. You play with it for 5 hours. You want it inside you. -" bla bla bla, 3 paragraphs later... "- you're riding him hard and waiting for the explosion and-" then you look and see there's 5 more paragraphs. You decide to just skip it. 2 days later you look and you now have chicken legs, 3 inch nipples, and a gaping butthole. Why? Well I guess you missed something in those 5 paragraphs..
I usually find the text dumps in CoC to be quite irritating. If I wanted to do THAT much reading then I'd just read a book. I feel like dialogue should be short, sweet, and to the point. Minimal dialogue always makes for a better gaming experience, at least IMO.
The only game I've ever played that was text heavy, that did a good job of it, was Betrayal at Krondor. The likes of which will probably never happen again.
Well, admittedly I did enjoy ZafeHouse Diaries for a while, but all the text is actually relevant.
In CoC it's like, "you put on your wizard had and cape. You both get lubed up. You stroke the pecker while your wet pussy glistens in the sunlight. You play with it for 5 hours. You want it inside you. -" bla bla bla, 3 paragraphs later... "- you're riding him hard and waiting for the explosion and-" then you look and see there's 5 more paragraphs. You decide to just skip it. 2 days later you look and you now have chicken legs, 3 inch nipples, and a gaping butthole. Why? Well I guess you missed something in those 5 paragraphs..
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Perfeccia Ars
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Re: *UPDATE* [8/31] Comprehensive patreon list
It's the weakness of the genre and it's no secret that Fenoxo is seen, even in his circle of people, as a terrible writer.
There's also the problem of dialogue like you said, there's a lot of text explaining what's happening, what the character is thinking and exposition in scenes but very little dialogue. Like 10% or 20% of the text is characters talking, and outside of sex scenes most of that is lore and exposition too, not character development. Which is funny, you'd think that a game about sex and intimacy that's text heavy would let characters talk more and focus on their development.
It's the weakness of the genre and it's no secret that Fenoxo is seen, even in his circle of people, as a terrible writer.
There's also the problem of dialogue like you said, there's a lot of text explaining what's happening, what the character is thinking and exposition in scenes but very little dialogue. Like 10% or 20% of the text is characters talking, and outside of sex scenes most of that is lore and exposition too, not character development. Which is funny, you'd think that a game about sex and intimacy that's text heavy would let characters talk more and focus on their development.
Paladox
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Yes. I've actually done a lot of research about text and writing in video games. Bottom line? If it's not important, then don't say it.
A talented writer can tell the player something about the game world, develop the story, and further character development all in one short sentence. Even better if it's also entertaining to read.
I'm probably not the best at all that, but I do try my best to keep it to a minimum. In the end I just try to think of what the characters would say, rather than telling the player everything I think they should know.
Let's say the player meets an NPC that wants them to go get a chalice for them. Does the player need to know the history of the chalice? Not really. Do they need to know the character's motives for wanting it? Again, no. The only thing that you need to consider is the NPC's personality towards the player.
A: They'll be nice to the player, because they want something.
B: The player doesn't need to know why the NPC wants it. They just need to know that they'll be rewarded for their effort. The NPC should offer them gold or something the player needs badly to access new areas.
C: The player's character/s might rightfully be suspicious, but ultimately it's up to the player to decide if they want to do the quest or not. The MC will ultimately just say, "I'll think about it." or such, rather than taking 5 paragraphs to question the NPC's motives while contemplating the meaning of life.
If I ever make a text game about sex and you're going to engage in sexual stuff with an NPC, then I'll probably just write something like, "You have sex with the goblin." The end.
If the player wants more details then they can check their character sheet for vaginal looseness and all that other good stuff. No need to deprive the player of their own imagination.
The exception would be a highly interactive sexual situation where you can pick your actions during sex, kinda like cyber sex. I think a game like that would be interesting.
Yes. I've actually done a lot of research about text and writing in video games. Bottom line? If it's not important, then don't say it.
A talented writer can tell the player something about the game world, develop the story, and further character development all in one short sentence. Even better if it's also entertaining to read.
I'm probably not the best at all that, but I do try my best to keep it to a minimum. In the end I just try to think of what the characters would say, rather than telling the player everything I think they should know.
Let's say the player meets an NPC that wants them to go get a chalice for them. Does the player need to know the history of the chalice? Not really. Do they need to know the character's motives for wanting it? Again, no. The only thing that you need to consider is the NPC's personality towards the player.
A: They'll be nice to the player, because they want something.
B: The player doesn't need to know why the NPC wants it. They just need to know that they'll be rewarded for their effort. The NPC should offer them gold or something the player needs badly to access new areas.
C: The player's character/s might rightfully be suspicious, but ultimately it's up to the player to decide if they want to do the quest or not. The MC will ultimately just say, "I'll think about it." or such, rather than taking 5 paragraphs to question the NPC's motives while contemplating the meaning of life.
If I ever make a text game about sex and you're going to engage in sexual stuff with an NPC, then I'll probably just write something like, "You have sex with the goblin." The end.
If the player wants more details then they can check their character sheet for vaginal looseness and all that other good stuff. No need to deprive the player of their own imagination.
The exception would be a highly interactive sexual situation where you can pick your actions during sex, kinda like cyber sex. I think a game like that would be interesting.
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The Silver Bard
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Re: *UPDATE* [8/31] Comprehensive patreon list
The normal rules of video game writing don't apply to text based games. The main problem with writing in video games is that there is so little room for it that you can't afford to waste words.
Text based games are all about the writing, so the traditional rules of novel writing are more applicable. A sex scene in a text-based game is essentially the same as a sex scene in a romance novel. Imagery and pacing are more important than actually conveying information. If there is a possibility your players are going to be fapping during a sex scene, you need to give them time and masturbation fuel.
That said, I think most of Fenoxo's sex scenes could stand to be about a third the length. They just get tedious after a while.
The normal rules of video game writing don't apply to text based games. The main problem with writing in video games is that there is so little room for it that you can't afford to waste words.
Text based games are all about the writing, so the traditional rules of novel writing are more applicable. A sex scene in a text-based game is essentially the same as a sex scene in a romance novel. Imagery and pacing are more important than actually conveying information. If there is a possibility your players are going to be fapping during a sex scene, you need to give them time and masturbation fuel.
That said, I think most of Fenoxo's sex scenes could stand to be about a third the length. They just get tedious after a while.
Perfeccia Ars
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There's a middle ground that's very difficult to get right for most writers, they either talk too much about pointless stuff falling in redundancy or too little about what should be conveyed to the reader. At that point I guess the one at fault is mostly the writer himself for lack of experience and basic study of writing techniques and rules.
Sadly at this point I doubt we'll see that fixed, writers just like artists develop quirks and sometimes bad habits, so at this point that's just Fenoxo's style, or should I say CoC style because there are a few writers that have to follow his format.
There's a middle ground that's very difficult to get right for most writers, they either talk too much about pointless stuff falling in redundancy or too little about what should be conveyed to the reader. At that point I guess the one at fault is mostly the writer himself for lack of experience and basic study of writing techniques and rules.
Sadly at this point I doubt we'll see that fixed, writers just like artists develop quirks and sometimes bad habits, so at this point that's just Fenoxo's style, or should I say CoC style because there are a few writers that have to follow his format.
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So yeah we now live the 2010's the year of memes and instant gratification. These text games are barely more than adventure text books that writes down stats for you, and flips to the paragraph or page for you based on your decisions. Sure some people like this format but those are the same people who will own a few copies of adventure books themselves. This isn't the what the entire audience of porn games want! They want action! (Sex or gameplay) they want music for immersion, they want stolen art from Japanese porn games because flash games! Alot of the audience are people who barely have anymore time in their lives, college students who need to study and work spending the few hours of free time they have to get relief from these porn games. Minimum wage earners who barely have enough time to eat and fap before they sleep before they have to go back to the drone and continuum of their daily lives in this world. They chose to play porn games over watching TV or youtube videos or playing console video games or reading books or studying for their future! We should respect those people, disregarding all connotations that porn games have, and give them a quality product since well alot of people are giving up money for this.
Bllauauagaghahahavvvahahhhhh sorry I just vomited and I think i strayed a little from the main topic. I won't bash on fenoxo, he has his own audience and niche and that's fine, the entireity of this audience are influenced by Japanese porn game design, "we want good art!" other have the flash games and dating Sims and super arbitrary porn things that were GAMES with gameplay "we want Fun!"
And what's more... Vruahagdhdhdhshshshhs sorry I think I'm vomiting a bit to much here don't mind what I say it's just vomit.
Hmmm... i think I have an agenda here, any recs besides elana? That has a decent amount of instant gratification that could be played in like short bursts?
So yeah we now live the 2010's the year of memes and instant gratification. These text games are barely more than adventure text books that writes down stats for you, and flips to the paragraph or page for you based on your decisions. Sure some people like this format but those are the same people who will own a few copies of adventure books themselves. This isn't the what the entire audience of porn games want! They want action! (Sex or gameplay) they want music for immersion, they want stolen art from Japanese porn games because flash games! Alot of the audience are people who barely have anymore time in their lives, college students who need to study and work spending the few hours of free time they have to get relief from these porn games. Minimum wage earners who barely have enough time to eat and fap before they sleep before they have to go back to the drone and continuum of their daily lives in this world. They chose to play porn games over watching TV or youtube videos or playing console video games or reading books or studying for their future! We should respect those people, disregarding all connotations that porn games have, and give them a quality product since well alot of people are giving up money for this.
Bllauauagaghahahavvvahahhhhh sorry I just vomited and I think i strayed a little from the main topic. I won't bash on fenoxo, he has his own audience and niche and that's fine, the entireity of this audience are influenced by Japanese porn game design, "we want good art!" other have the flash games and dating Sims and super arbitrary porn things that were GAMES with gameplay "we want Fun!"
And what's more... Vruahagdhdhdhshshshhs sorry I think I'm vomiting a bit to much here don't mind what I say it's just vomit.
Hmmm... i think I have an agenda here, any recs besides elana? That has a decent amount of instant gratification that could be played in like short bursts?
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meh65
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Re: *UPDATE* [8/31] Comprehensive patreon list
This is why green text 4chan stories amaze me. I can't begin to describe the vivid picture I paint based off of bullet points.
I have always hated reading most books due to them spending a whole page on describing a solitary room and where the character is sitting, and what color their shoes are.
The sweet sweet irony of someone using a wall of text to complain about people who like using or enjoying walls of text.
This is why green text 4chan stories amaze me. I can't begin to describe the vivid picture I paint based off of bullet points.
I have always hated reading most books due to them spending a whole page on describing a solitary room and where the character is sitting, and what color their shoes are.
The sweet sweet irony of someone using a wall of text to complain about people who like using or enjoying walls of text.
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Saw a game in Fenoxo, it's called "The fate of Irnia" by winterlook... but it doesn't have much material, maybe less than Summertime Saga, but like this one, I love the art and have the fetishes that I like, the author promised sex scenes for the next build so... maybe you can add this in the next update
patreon(dot)com/winterlook
Also... Manitu has a Patreon page, I'm not a fan of GoT (shame, shame, shame) but I really like the art of Manitu really cool,
patreon(dot)com/manitu
Saw a game in Fenoxo, it's called "The fate of Irnia" by winterlook... but it doesn't have much material, maybe less than Summertime Saga, but like this one, I love the art and have the fetishes that I like, the author promised sex scenes for the next build so... maybe you can add this in the next update
patreon(dot)com/winterlook
Also... Manitu has a Patreon page, I'm not a fan of GoT (shame, shame, shame) but I really like the art of Manitu
really cool, patreon(dot)com/manitu
Paladox
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A super early version of FSA was actually inspired by Legend of the Green Dragon, and had descriptive sex with ogres and clowns and such (yes, a tricksy clown). Basically each day you could interact with each of them one time and you would randomly get gems, nothing, etc.. etc.. or sex. By sex I mean descriptive wall of text stuff.
I'm really glad I didn't keep that format.
Violated Heroine helped inspire me a lot. It really helps, as a hentai game developer, to try out various games in the genre to see what you like and don't like.
Makes me wonder what would have become of FSA if I had played CoC back then. I could be typing up huge walls of smut text for a CoC inspired clone.
Glad I dodged that bullet.
A super early version of FSA was actually inspired by Legend of the Green Dragon, and had descriptive sex with ogres and clowns and such (yes, a tricksy clown). Basically each day you could interact with each of them one time and you would randomly get gems, nothing, etc.. etc.. or sex. By sex I mean descriptive wall of text stuff.
I'm really glad I didn't keep that format.
Violated Heroine helped inspire me a lot. It really helps, as a hentai game developer, to try out various games in the genre to see what you like and don't like.
Makes me wonder what would have become of FSA if I had played CoC back then. I could be typing up huge walls of smut text for a CoC inspired clone.
Glad I dodged that bullet.
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Hi ,
Could you please add me to your list. I currently creating a sci fi unity 3d game with naughty elements.(Mostly machine and bondage.. damn this fetisch of mine >.<)
anyway.. it is nothing professional just a hobby.
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Hi ,
Could you please add me to your list. I currently creating a sci fi unity 3d game with naughty elements.(Mostly machine and bondage.. damn this fetisch of mine >.<)
anyway.. it is nothing professional just a hobby.
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meh65
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