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...just so we're on the same page: after she opens up, magic and the improved sword do about 80HP damage at a time - that's still quite a bit, if the target is 1200HP (that is unless that battle end prematurely).
Though it seems I'll be looking into grinding deaths for skill points first...
 
JustLurksHere said:
...just so we're on the same page: after she opens up, magic and the improved sword do about 80HP damage at a time - that's still quite a bit, if the target is 1200HP (that is unless that battle end prematurely).
Though it seems I'll be looking into grinding deaths for skill points first...
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Interesting, its true that at the time I got to the first iron Maiden fight that I only had an automatic pistol and reg pistol, i didn't have an upgraded sword.


I do remember the wind magic working very well i think even in terms of damage, but the down side of it is that it uses vitality I thought and sword attacks with the iron maiden i think can cause her to catch you? I thought i remembered reading that, which is why it is suggested either the shotgun or ideally the automatic weapon is really what you want to be using, in order to preserve that vitality.
 
...you can't have a shotgun by the first Iron Maiden fight - just 1st upgrades for pistol and sword and basic machine pistol...
 
Ci-en Update on EX3, starring everyone's favorite derp cat. Spoiler alert: Too much Sphinx for one man to handle.
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Ci-en Update on EX3, starring everyone's favorite derp cat. Spoiler alert: Too much Sphinx for one man to handle.
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With the power of Fairies' Queen Jewel, this is the form of Sphinx prior to her reincarnation. Her tone has become adult-like, and not just her body, but her attitude grown as well, leaving not even a sign of current airheaded Sphinx.
However, being very curious about Kazuya and humans in general, she will not hesitate to assault him with her huge body.
-2nd picture
Her body is large enough to fully grasp the protag. Her boobs are tremendously huge, even bigger than in her post-reincarnation form; it seems one could be completely buried in them.
 
@JustLurksHere Got the fight with Lucy recorded for you. She isn't that hard, just get yourself out of critical double bind when necessary and counter her Charm with a dose of アドレナリン (Adrenalin). And use カスタムハンドガン (Custom Handgun) - that beast deals a solid 200~300 damage per attack.
(The video is located at Shared Folder/Video Walkthrough/Lucy (Iron Maiden) Fight 1 (Chapter 1-2).mp4, the link is in the signature.)
 
Thanks for the clip.
OK, it seems part of the problem is that I've already gathered all of her death debuffs - likely will need to clear them...

Just to make sure: are there any downsides of grinding deaths as long as you interleave them with kills and spending them on skill points ?
Also, you seem to have tea buff. Does it have any purpose in fight ? (...I might need to add a state page to my toy)
 
JustLurksHere said:
Thanks for the clip.
OK, it seems part of the problem is that I've already gathered all of her death debuffs - likely will need to clear them...

Just to make sure: are there any downsides of grinding deaths as long as you interleave them with kills and spending them on skill points ?
Also, you seem to have tea buff. Does it have any purpose in fight ? (...I might need to add a state page to my toy)
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Tea debuff is one of the strongest ones in the game, it halves all lust damage until it wears off. It's incredibly vital to drink some before boss fights to help you out.
 
...yay, so I do need that extra page...
Edit: (it had been two pages, actually - not difficult, just me being lazy)
 
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JustLurksHere said:
Thanks for the clip.
OK, it seems part of the problem is that I've already gathered all of her death debuffs - likely will need to clear them...

Just to make sure: are there any downsides of grinding deaths as long as you interleave them with kills and spending them on skill points ?
Also, you seem to have tea buff. Does it have any purpose in fight ? (...I might need to add a state page to my toy)
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As long as you clear the debuff by killing them, there is no additional negative. I think you said you are going for the genocide ending, in which case I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter.
 
...where did I said that ?
I only meant 'wins and looses interleaved', so that I won't death debuffs for ランパス.
I'm definitely going at True Mercy first.
 
If you're going for the True Mercy route then you can't be "interleaving with kills" at all....that should have been pretty clear from this thread.

I guess I misunderstood what you meant by "grinding deaths". You DO NOT want to lose over and over again because that makes the game a lot harder, also you could find yourself in a horrible situation if you save at the wrong point and the wrong time later in the game, however I found in my case it was unavoidable to lose multiple times to the Iron Maiden, but ultimately nothing happened I was still able to get the true mercy end.


You want to avoid getting a game over as much as possible but it ultimately won't ruin your game if you do get it a couple times. DO NOT ask the cushion for a forgiveness, I didn't, you don't have to, I do'nt know if doing the cushion forgiveness ruins your ending.

The monsters do not forget how many times they fuck you.
 
This indeed seems a misunderstanding: "interleaving with kills" means simply "battles won", not that I *choose* to kill them at the end of the battle.
That seems to hold back slide into death debuffs.
I'll likely still need to reset those debuffs on Iron Maiden - using some of the deaths for it.
I can't quite find the other script/event that resets those (found only the part that applies/removes those debuffs, not the part that sets the var that controls that process).
Therefore, I can't fully check the other way of removing those debuffs. I only know that while I did get lvl 1 debuff for lampas early on (when I wasn't interleaving yet), I've grinded several skills already, yet the debuff level didn't rise.
 
The only 3 ways (as far as I know) to remove 'soul trauma' (心蝕 ) are to defeat said demon in fight (removes 1 layer per win), to ask them to remove it after you befriended them in My Room after 100 affection, or to ask Meira to remove it. Sadly, last option also prevents you from reaching True Mercy...so there's that.
 
...I'm not sure data support that claim.
Unless such check has been made significantly earlier, the final check for ending 0 is 13 friends and char at level 1.
Only if the friend count is less than 13 the remedies are counted.
So, unless that 13th friend (whomever that is) has additional conditions...

Also, I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing.
I was referring to '【ランパスの愛好肥料】Lv1' and similar passives.
 
JustLurksHere said:
...I'm not sure data support that claim.
Unless such check has been made significantly earlier, the final check for ending 0 is 13 friends and char at level 1.
Only if the friend count is less than 13 remedies are counted.
So, unless that 13th friend (whomever that is) has additional conditions...
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I'm certain someone said here before (Anego maybe?) that receiving any help from Meira kicks you out of TM route for current playthrough tho.
 
JustLurksHere said:
...I'm not sure data support that claim.
Unless such check has been made significantly earlier, the final check for ending 0 is 13 friends and char at level 1.
Only if the friend count is less than 13 the remedies are counted.
So, unless that 13th friend (whomever that is) has additional conditions...

Also, I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing.
I was referring to '【ランパスの愛好肥料】Lv1' and similar passives.
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There's a difference between Mercy and True Mercy.
 
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