RPG Maker Dragon Throne chapter 1&2&3

[Merlik]

Re: Dragon Throne chapter 1&2

Incest story, well, i tried it, scenes are good but except for that, there is no game, it's not even fun.
What does really popular means exactly ? Is it supposed to be a quality criteria ?
According to popular movies / tv shows / whatever, i would say it's exactly the opposite.

Well it that case it is disturbing matter. If people don't care about story and support only sex this game has "dark future". I think it is not a secret that good support gives motivation and inspiration to every developer. Considering amount of support what natali has... well I can only guess what drives her to continue to develop.
In that case and with her graphic she could easily start to develop another incest story and got more much more support than with the current game.

 

[Combustion Man]

Re: Dragon Throne chapter 1&2

I hope other users will go on commenting the right game in this thread, by the way, my opinion has only one purpose, giving a feedback to the game developers. ;-)

 

[vcghbfbem]

Re: Dragon Throne chapter 1&2

Natali has remade the first 2 chapters, after the release of remade chapter 2 the patrons raised, in the next chapter will begin the new parts, there will be extended sex scenes and the story is beginning to take off, so in some chapters is prevedibile the patrons will raise more, her game is different and it's what she wants to create.

 

[stoper]

Re: Dragon Throne chapter 1&2

Well it that case it is disturbing matter. If people don't care about story and support only sex this game has "dark future". I think it is not a secret that good support gives motivation and inspiration to every developer. Considering amount of support what natali has... well I can only guess what drives her to continue to develop.
In that case and with her graphic she could easily start to develop another incest story and got more much more support than with the current game.

Sadly, you're right. Despite it's flaws, Natali's game is much better than Incest Story, yet she doesn't come even close to the financial support the later is getting.
Truth is - people who play this type of games don't look for a good game, but porn. And apparently the urge to see a guy fuck his own mother seems to open lots of wallets.

 

[Merlik]

Re: Dragon Throne chapter 1&2

Sadly, you're right. Despite it's flaws, Natali's game is much better than Incest Story, yet she doesn't come even close to the financial support the later is getting.
Truth is - people who play this type of games don't look for a good game, but porn. And apparently the urge to see a guy fuck his own mother seems to open lots of wallets.

I am glad that I am not the only one with such opinion. And it appears that people who want to play just porno games are willing to support such cheap products. But incest story at least has some good pictures. But such games as Sarah's Life or Regina la bermota (or whatever the name is) - I am speechless. There is nothing more I can add to it.

 

[Natali]

Re: Dragon Throne chapter 1&2

I am glad that I am not the only one with such opinion. And it appears that people who want to play just porno games are willing to support such cheap products. But incest story at least has some good pictures. But such games as Sarah's Life or Regina la bermota (or whatever the name is) - I am speechless. There is nothing more I can add to it.

Regarding this. I think right now this discussion is irrelevant. People support what they want to play.
To be frankly I was thinking to stop all of this. But taking in account difficult start and amount of efforts, I felt it is not a good idea. I could of course start to develop a new porno game but it would be too boring and not very interesting for me. So that what I have now it is probably what the game is worth.

 

[vcghbfbem]

Re: Dragon Throne chapter 1&2

Regarding this. I think right now this discussion is irrelevant. People support what they want to play.
To be frankly I was thinking to stop all of this. But taking in account difficult start and amount of efforts, I felt it is not a good idea. I could of course start to develop a new porno game but it would be too boring and not very interesting for me. So that what I have now it is probably what the game is worth.

I agree that it's not right judge what others like or want to play. What you have now is what the game it is doing at the moment, it's not so bad and it's beginning, your game has in any case a base of patron that support you and this isn't a thing sure for any authors, your game promises to improve with the next chapters and I think your decision to continue, even for who is supporting you, has been the right decision.

 

[vcghbfbem]

Re: Dragon Throne chapter 1&2

I'm thinking if in the future could be moments in which you play other characters (like Addine or valeri) or the focus would be always Jonathan?

 

[Merlik]

Re: Dragon Throne chapter 1&2

Regarding this. I think right now this discussion is irrelevant. People support what they want to play.
To be frankly I was thinking to stop all of this. But taking in account difficult start and amount of efforts, I felt it is not a good idea. I could of course start to develop a new porno game but it would be too boring and not very interesting for me. So that what I have now it is probably what the game is worth.

I wouldn't say so. It is very relevant I think. Because your game shows that such games aren't preferable. So no one, else will not even try to do it. Which in its turn means that more and more those stupid porno incest games will be developed. Maybe in time, people finally get bored. But when do this time come? It might take a long while.

 

[vcghbfbem]

Re: Dragon Throne chapter 1&2

I wouldn't say so. It is very relevant I think. Because your game shows that such games aren't preferable. So no one, else will not even try to do it. Which in its turn means that more and more those stupid porno incest games will be developed. Maybe in time, people finally get bored. But when do this time come? It might take a long while.

Even if you had reason the problem is not the incest, that is a theme that, like other (cheating, blackmail,...) open possibilities and depends how is treated, but the choice to create a game where the sex is the main character, but like Natali said each of us can decide what support. I like the story above all, but I don't want to judge. Please can we return to speak about the game, if someone wants to speak about other arguments he can open another thread.

 

[Xil]

Re: Dragon Throne chapter 1&2

I think there was a massive influx of incest RPG games when I.S. came around.
(atleast I think that was the first one. I might be wrong)
People saw how it was kinda succesful on Patreon and they started doing it too.

Now some of them are good and some I don't really like but as long as the game is good what does it matter? Saying the theme is bad is just an opinion though. That'd be like saying H-RPG's with the rape theme is stupid when literally most of the H-RPG's are with rape themes. There's practically a new one out every few days.

Anyway about this game, I haven't tried the new version yet (after the renaming).

Spoiler

This has one of those "revenge" stories with male protagonists that I really like. Well it's not exactly a revenge in this one but still. Aunt bitch and her son that practically step on you... you get the idea.

Also the 3D is nice, really like the big sister's (sorry, forgot her name) model.

 

[vcghbfbem]

Re: Dragon Throne chapter 1&2

Xil, you have to try the new version, if someone liked the original will adore the remade version. Natali has improved much the game.
I think that also Natali think that Addine's model is well done seen that she uses her as avatar

 

[Xil]

Re: Dragon Throne chapter 1&2

Well, I played it and...

Spoiler

Good god, this has more injustice in it than Game of Thrones. Atleast Chapter 2 didn't exactly finish in the worst possible way. I don't know if I could've handled it.

Other than that, can't wait to see what happens next.

Edit: What I said in the spoiler, I didn't mean it in a bad way btw.

 

[ltpika]

Re: Dragon Throne chapter 1&2

You don't have to shit on other people's games in order to like this one. It's unnecessary and destructive to the community.

 

[thswherizat]

Re: Dragon Throne chapter 1&2

You don't have to shit on other people's games in order to like this one. It's unnecessary and destructive to the community.

To be fair, it's not the developer being rude about anyone else's development, it just seems to be some enthusiasts about the game who seem to be struggling with other developers.

 

[Natali]

Re: Dragon Throne chapter 1&2

I'm thinking if in the future could be moments in which you play other characters (like Addine or valeri) or the focus would be always Jonathan?

I think it will be possible. However, not in chapter 3. Chapter 4 might be the right one for such idea.

 

[Natali]

Re: Dragon Throne chapter 1&2

I wouldn't say so. It is very relevant I think. Because your game shows that such games aren't preferable. So no one, else will not even try to do it. Which in its turn means that more and more those stupid porno incest games will be developed. Maybe in time, people finally get bored. But when do this time come? It might take a long while.

We can't force them to support. According to you logic there are two possible ways to deal it.
-Stop develop dragon throne and start to develop some other porno game.
-Continue to develop it as it is.

I like my game so I am choosing the second option. As I said I had a difficult start with this game. Now the things go much better. Especially when I got help with bugging fixes. So in the future it is not going to any problem with it.
Other thing is that people complain why there is so few sex scenes. I always wonder why do they want to see everything in demo in my game.?
From now on you can consider first 2 chapater as demo. Everything what is going to be released in the future are for my patrons only. At least I have to reward those few who support me.
So there is no point to discuss it further.

 

[vcghbfbem]

Re: Dragon Throne chapter 1&2

I think it will be possible. However, not in chapter 3. Chapter 4 might be the right one for such idea.

It's interesting, Jonathan is the main character, but the sisters seem the 2 co-stars of the story and not simple support characters.

Well, I played it and...

Spoiler

Good god, this has more injustice in it than Game of Thrones. Atleast Chapter 2 didn't exactly finish in the worst possible way. I don't know if I could've handled it.

Other than that, can't wait to see what happens next.

Edit: What I said in the spoiler, I didn't mean it in a bad way btw.

I think that Natali took inspiration from game of thrones when deciding the atmosphere of her game and I think that we will see many bad moments in the future, I have also the suspect that, if not the difficulty to create new characters, also the deaths would be well present, but even with few character, we will see the same someone die.
Saying that some characters resemble other is not always correct, because some archetype are classic after so much fiction, but Jonathan could resemble a merger between Jaime and Tyron and Addine maybe a young Cersei (before the life changed her in the version we see).
In any case I like that Jonathan has a carefree aspect, because it permits to create some light situation even when the situation around is a bit "complicate".

 

[ltpika]

Re: Dragon Throne chapter 1&2

To be fair, it's not the developer being rude about anyone else's development, it just seems to be some enthusiasts about the game who seem to be struggling with other developers.

This thread is for discussion of this game. They should take their complaints to those creators and not hide in here like cowards, steering the conversation away from Dragon Throne.

 

[moonblack]

Re: Dragon Throne chapter 1&2

I gave this a try.

I like the looks of the female characters. I also like the story (what little of it is known so far).

One thing I didn't like is that many NPCs just ignore you. Would be nice if there was some reaction when you try talking to them, even if it is something like "The man ignores you." or "The two women are busy talking to each other and compeltely ignore you."

Suggestions:
- when you pick up your sword before going to town equip it automatically
- rename the "powerful kick" skill to something else, because the current name doesn't fit. It's supposed to be a kick, yet it requires that you have a sword equipped. You could call it - for example - V-cut (based on the animation used for it).

Everything else was said already.