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Hmm... a remake of Miyuka, huh? Not my jam, sadly. It would be interesting to see a remake of Kakutou Imouto or Shogun Princess Christianne, with how different those games were.
 

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Hmm... a remake of Miyuka, huh? Not my jam, sadly. It would be interesting to see a remake of Kakutou Imouto or Shogun Princess Christianne, with how different those games were.
Yeah the combat games are much more popular in the west. I mean you don't need a translation of all the dialogue to get the eroticness.
Lots of stuff is missing in translation if you don't understand the text, but you can still get the basic modicum of enjoyment.

NOT the Interrogation games though. They're SUPER heavy on text and most of the enjoyment comes from sharing JSK's fetishes, so if you don't have an incest fetish you'll probably find it hard to enjoy them even if you understand the dialogue.

Your opinion is pretty common, but I still think it's worth it to not be completely dejected when a new interrogation game comes out. JSK's always improving and he always picks up different things per game. For instance, Great Demon Lord's binding system was really popular right. It actually started with the Interrogation game Princess Irene, and he brought it into his battle games with Miyui and on.
 

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It's not a miyuka remake...
妹様はツンデレだったので、方向性はちょい違うはずですが、やることは大して変わらないですねw
can be interpreted as:
"Miyuka was a tsundere so the direction of the interactions differ slightly here, but what you have to do isn't very different in the end lol"
 

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@Delexicus
The community pack on Mega no longer has the translated version of Serika btw. What happened to that?

@bgnac
I mean the girl has blue hair instead of blonde so there are slight differences here and there, but it's definitely a derivative of Miyuka. Younger sister finds your porn stash and now you have to deal with it in JSK's style. He even mentioned that the direction of the interactions will only differ slightly.
 
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@Delexicus
The community pack on Mega no longer has the translated version of Serika btw. What happened to that?

@bgnac
I mean the girl has blue hair instead of blonde so there are slight differences here and there, but it's definitely a derivative of Miyuka. Younger sister finds your porn stash and now you have to deal with it in JSK's style. He even mentioned that the direction of the interactions will only differ slightly.
Not sure how that happened. I'll have a look.

EDIT 1.)

It's in the Freeware Section
 

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Considering Shogun Princess completely deviated from his tried and true pov style but the heroine was extremely well crafted I'm looking forward to that remake as well.
 

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Considering Shogun Princess completely deviated from his tried and true pov style but the heroine was extremely well crafted I'm looking forward to that remake as well.
Was Shogun Princess well crafted?
Fuuma Girl Maisa and Yumisu are both like miles more complex imo.

Christianne was just a soldier who blindly followed the orders of her King which she had absolute faith in. I won't deny that seeing the full body was novel, but it really brought to attention his proportions. In particular how big and poofy his girl's heads are.

Btw, Maisa's complex because she doesn't hate the fact that the demon who's influencing her is making her more forward since she already loves you, and Yumisu is the King herself. She's got a lot to think about when it comes to her station.
 
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Well the new game looks like wll be fun, i hope the team translate this one because interrogations games are 100% roleplay and you need to understand to roleplay
 

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Was Shogun Princess well crafted?
Fuuma Girl Maisa and Yumisu are both like miles more complex imo.

Christianne was just a soldier who blindly followed the orders of her King which she had absolute faith in. I won't deny that seeing the full body was novel, but it really brought to attention his proportions. In particular how big and poofy his girl's heads are.

Btw, Maisa's complex because she doesn't hate the fact that the demon who's influencing her is making her more forward since she already loves you, and Yumisu is the King herself. She's got a lot to think about when it comes to her station.
I meant Christianne's character design. How she looks. She reminded me of a soul calibur character and her moves were pretty flashy. She would have been much hotter in pov, that third person perspective sucked imo. Maisa and Yumisu were indeed better games by far. Yumisu remains my favorite to this day even with the new active time battle system. (best paizuri)
 

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I'm a bit surprised at the lukewarm-at-best reaction to JSK's newest game announcement, at least here. Miyuka was the first JSK game I played (over a decade ago now, and I've been visiting this thread ever since), and I'm ecstatic at this news. JSK himself even mentioned that he's done too many combat games recently, compared to touching/talking games.

I guess like Aesthetic said, the combat games are easier to guess at from context, and certain themes/fetishes JSK seems to like are not for everyone, but Miyuka hit my interests dead-center and so does Nano. I couldn't be happier.

But if JSK's next project after this is a remake of , then, well, I'd truly be living in a JSK golden age.
 

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You're probably not gonna get far with Hentai if your interests are pretty specific I suppose, and if you're hoping for engaging storylines and good gameplay. JSK has also been kind of a refuge for many people who watch Hentai because he covers a lot of territory. He could have just made his games another generic mindbreak fest, or a generic vanilla story that we've seen hundreds of millions of already, but he makes it to where a general scenario of every type gets represented. He makes a vanilla end, a ''femdom'' end(depending on the game). A mindbreak end, and a generic rape end(which is very different from the mindbreak stuff that litters that genre). While his characters also start to feel samey, their body types tend to have a decent variety as well so I don't think his games are gonna hit the mark every single time for every single person but it doesn't surprise me that he is also gonna do lolis...even though I don't...really? Consider this next heroine a genuine loli. Thankfully I don't have too specific preferences on the body types and don't take porn-incest very seriously so I could probably enjoy any game he throws out as long as there's fap material in it.
 

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I'd never really thought about it before, but my theory as to why JSK's games are so popular (and they are, based on my limited knowledge of DLsite, a creator who's been around as long as JSK having this many purchases of their games is a good indicator of a solid, loyal fanbase), is that they're "condensed quality".

You can go out and play any number of H-ready instant fap-fest games with animation around JSK's quality, but there's little to no interaction. Those kinds of games aren't about the characters, heck, a lot of them don't even include touching or much in the way of feminine pleasure. In the same vein, you can go out and play an even larger number of visual novels or VN-type games that take anywhere from a couple hours to 100+ hours to read, and while the length means you can connect with the characters in a much deeper way, the sex scenes often leave something to be desired; whether that's because the creator just doesn't write sex very well, or the reader personally doesn't get as much out of textual sex than they would out of a more visual presentation (and most VNs have little to nothing in the way of sex animations).

With JSK's games, you get a lot of the best of both worlds. You get to know the girls from the presentation of both styles of games, whether that be in battle or in a conversation or other scenes. Thus you get the closer connection with the character that comes from VN-style games, but much quicker. In the sex scenes, you get pretty good quality animations of quite a few different kinds of positions and fetishes, and as Pacmanisawsome mentioned, the different endings (with JSK's recent innovation of allowing you to quickly apply different ending-type dialogue from the main menu) get you dialogue to fit a lot of tastes. JSK games scratch the itches of wanting to see good H-animation while not just having the girl be a blank slate.
 

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I actually think a lot of porn in general is focused too much on feminine pleasure, or that we're supposed to be pleasured by it. Porn tries its absolute best to keep the guy as silent and as out of the camera view as possible, most male porn stars barely even look like they're enjoying the scenarios they are in. Even mind break, which is supposed to be a rapey genre, is focused more on convincing the girl that she enjoys sex, rather than actually having the sex itself. I think this is why the ''ugly old guy'' genre is popular for some people, it forces the guy to be an active participant the scenes and due to the genre are made to actually give the viewer feedback on how good they're feeling.

JSK's games are kinda rare, at least from what I see from the porn I view(a lot of it) where it has a route where the guy is the one being pleasured and the girl isn't the sole focus, or if the guy is the sole focus is more of a tool to convince the woman that deep down she's a horny slut. I mean if I'm watching porn and they're trying their absolute hardest to keep the guy silent , out of camera, even if they have to do ridiculous positions to only show the girl, how does that convey to me that I would be enjoying it if I were in their position?

Vanilla genres tend to suffer from this as well, but that's an entirely different can of worms.

JSK's games can be approached from any angle, sex for pleasure(rape end). Sex to convince the girl she's a horny slut(lewd ends). Sex where the girl either maintains a form of agency, or is the dominant one(subordinate ends), and the normal Honorable guy has an encounter with a girl and they both love each other route. He has a somewhat decent variety in body types. I'm not sure if this is intentional but he doesn't seem to try to make outstanding scenarios, rather uses common scenarios that we all love and enjoy because he's not trying to write a novel here. It's just a quick, hour or so long game with a toybox of nice things for everyone.

I don't really think the girls are full of much personality, they're an archetypical anime character in their respective roles and that's not really that big of an issue I think. VN's are more focused on story, while having sex, so they're not really as free with their characters but these games in particular shouldn't be held to those standards imo.
 

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It's just a quick, hour or so long game with a toybox of nice things for everyone.
That's really what I was trying to get at with my post. They're not 2 minutes long, they're not 10+ hours long, they're a happy medium.

I wasn't quite trying to say that the girls in JSK games are well-rounded, fleshed out characters, but that having anything to go off of in terms of dialogue or knowledge about the character/setting makes for a better sexual experience for me, at least, compared to "this is a flash game where you fuck a twintailed tsundere, but she has no dialogue, go for it".
 

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Yeah that's true, I often replayed the games that have been translated many times simply to see what they'd say in every different scenario because they actually have a surprising amount of reactions to whatever you do, especially now that he makes ''post-ending'' modes where you do your fight again but it was after whatever ending you picked so they have entirely different dialogue, now that I think about it that is pretty rare in H games even when you can fully interact with them.
 

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I'm a bit surprised at the lukewarm-at-best reaction to JSK's newest game announcement, at least here. Miyuka was the first JSK game I played (over a decade ago now, and I've been visiting this thread ever since), and I'm ecstatic at this news. JSK himself even mentioned that he's done too many combat games recently, compared to touching/talking games.
Because she don't look like miyuka, I can't get it into my head that its a miyuka remake...
 

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Oh I know, I wish she were more Miyuka-like too, but I'll take what I can get. I do like how Nano looks, though.
 
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