ACT JSK工房 Hgames Thread

bgnac · Nov 30, 2020

TheUnsaid said:
Oof, JSK's thread really dies when he does loli stuff hunh.

can't show images, can't talk, and it's not done, 5 scenes out of 13 planned completed, 6th one not even halfway done

OmegaArk · Nov 30, 2020

JSK takes about 3-4 months average to complete a game.

Have to wait for the next battle game.

TheUnsaid · Nov 30, 2020

Tellukoz said:
but saying it's just kink shaming is not a real comparison, you get cases where sites ban people for discussing loli, or even cases like patreon which can ban you for drawing characters that look too young

Colloquially it is just kink shaming tho.
If you like loli on 4chan or reddit you just get made fun of because you look like you want to fuck a 10 year old. Your peers will react in the same way if you had said you liked pegging.

Obviously sites ban people for discussing loli, and some sites take a more hardline approach.
They don't even want to risk it with legal authorities for good reason.

Also, Patreon is financial partners with payment processors like Paypal.
What is the most disputed type of payment that leads to the most amount of losses for payment processors? Porn.
Post-nut clarity causes regret in people's financial decisions.

Patreon is so hardline and scared of scaring away it's financial partners that it doesn't even allow incest as a theme or general rape.

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It's fine if you like loli btw. I personally don't care.
Just know there's quite a few good reasons why that fetish is treated the way it is.

bgnac said:
can't show images, can't talk, and it's not done, 5 scenes out of 13 planned completed, 6th one not even halfway done

Nobody's even bringing up translations of what was said on Ci-En.
It wasn't the same with previous games.

This game's just a double whammy. It's an interrogation loli game. Still even the last one had people want to talk about it because it was similar to the blonde sister one in theme.

GEORGEM · Nov 30, 2020

TheUnsaid said:
Oof, JSK's thread really dies when he does loli stuff hunh.

Well, his latest update shows mating press.

I guess since the last game had an onee-san who put the protag in Amazon, he's going in the opposite direction.
Not only is it a loli, but her general demeanor is hyper submissive and she gets put in the mating press.

Covering all his bases XD

Err, I don't really have a loli kink, but I'll never say to a mating press, lol.

Delexicus · Nov 30, 2020

No one has mentioned the visual style change of the new heroine. Her blush has been revamped from the large red oval in the center of her face, to actually having blush on her cheeks. I personally like this change, and think it adds a bit more cuteness to the characters. I hope he continues using this blush style in the future.

raxim · Nov 30, 2020

Delexicus said:
No one has mentioned the visual style change of the new heroine. Her blush has been revamped from the large red oval in the center of her face, to actually having blush on her cheeks. I personally like this change, and think it adds a bit more cuteness to the characters. I hope he continues using this blush style in the future.

Huh, didn't notice that. Now, I wish he would update some of his older games to match that look.

Speaking of updating his older games, there is an update to Irene in June this year. Did he add an extra mode to h scenes like in other interrogation games or is it just bugfixes/AIR updates? The extra mode for the hscenes one of the few saving graces of his interrogation games for me.

TheUnsaid · Nov 30, 2020

Delexicus said:
Her blush has been revamped from the large red oval in the center of her face, to actually having blush on her cheeks. I personally like this change, and think it adds a bit more cuteness to the characters

I feel like it's been like that for a while now...

Delexicus · Dec 1, 2020

TheUnsaid said:
I feel like it's been like that for a while now...

For the upcoming heroine, yes. No other retail JSK game has had that blush on both cheeks style though.

Tellukoz · Dec 1, 2020

TheUnsaid said:
Colloquially it is just kink shaming tho.
If you like loli on 4chan or reddit you just get made fun of because you look like you want to fuck a 10 year old. Your peers will react in the same way if you had said you liked pegging.

Obviously sites ban people for discussing loli, and some sites take a more hardline approach.
They don't even want to risk it with legal authorities for good reason.

Also, Patreon is financial partners with payment processors like Paypal.
What is the most disputed type of payment that leads to the most amount of losses for payment processors? Porn.
Post-nut clarity causes regret in people's financial decisions.

Patreon is so hardline and scared of scaring away it's financial partners that it doesn't even allow incest as a theme or general rape.

___

It's fine if you like loli btw. I personally don't care.
Just know there's quite a few good reasons why that fetish is treated the way it is.

Nobody's even bringing up translations of what was said on Ci-En.
It wasn't the same with previous games.

This game's just a double whammy. It's an interrogation loli game. Still even the last one had people want to talk about it because it was similar to the blonde sister one in theme.

4chan only allows loli and shota in /b/, it's forbidden in both /h/ and /d/, and most of the time threads about loli are either raided, spammed, or straight up deleted for no reason
Reddit I'm not sure, I don't visit the site but I've heard is almost the same
In Patreon, it doesn't need to be necessary direct porn, in fact it was believed to be an attack to the japanese style in the first place, soon after, it was clarified, if the character is deemed too young you can be banned, so yeah, Bye Bye money
In the end I'm well aware why they do that, but that doesn't make it less censorship for something that accordingly to the federal law of the USA, is legal as long as it's clearly distinct from the real stuff
In the end you just gave me the reason but still say that is just kink shame, that's false, you just assumed that I was talking in general and not about just loli, even when you were the one that mentioned first, and implied that vilifying it was justified along with the real stuff

GEORGEM · Dec 1, 2020

Delexicus said:
No one has mentioned the visual style change of the new heroine. Her blush has been revamped from the large red oval in the center of her face, to actually having blush on her cheeks. I personally like this change, and think it adds a bit more cuteness to the characters. I hope he continues using this blush style in the future.

I can't really tell the diff tbqh.

TheUnsaid · Dec 2, 2020

Tellukoz said:
4chan only allows loli and shota in /b/, it's forbidden in both /h/ and /d/, and most of the time threads about loli are either raided, spammed, or straight up deleted for no reason
Reddit I'm not sure, I don't visit the site but I've heard is almost the same
In Patreon, it doesn't need to be necessary direct porn, in fact it was believed to be an attack to the japanese style in the first place, soon after, it was clarified, if the character is deemed too young you can be banned, so yeah, Bye Bye money
In the end I'm well aware why they do that, but that doesn't make it less censorship for something that accordingly to the federal law of the USA, is legal as long as it's clearly distinct from the real stuff
In the end you just gave me the reason but still say that is just kink shame, that's false, you just assumed that I was talking in general and not about just loli, even when you were the one that mentioned first, and implied that vilifying it was justified along with the real stuff

Bro, all I'm saying is that the content vilified for a reason.

Colloquially means when people are talking about it. So if you and a rando somewhere talk about loli stuff, the rando's gonna treat you the same as the guy who likes scat.
I'm not talking about websites banning it or anything. I gave you the reason why businesses like Paypal/Patreon do it already.

If you want to know why 4chan and other such sites do it to, it's because those communities also trade in IRL child porn. Not saying all the members do, but if you find somewhere where a bunch of lolicons trade loli content, yer gonna find real CP too. Does anyone want to take that risk in their community? No.

Colloquially and functionally are two different things.

Icevail · Dec 2, 2020

I'll take the swiss route in this topic.

Its highly controversial and niche kink to have, as long as people won't act on those needs in real life, I generally turn blind eye to people with such kink switches.

Tellukoz · Dec 3, 2020

TheUnsaid said:
Bro, all I'm saying is that the content vilified for a reason.

Colloquially means when people are talking about it. So if you and a rando somewhere talk about loli stuff, the rando's gonna treat you the same as the guy who likes scat.
I'm not talking about websites banning it or anything. I gave you the reason why businesses like Paypal/Patreon do it already.

If you want to know why 4chan and other such sites do it to, it's because those communities also trade in IRL child porn. Not saying all the members do, but if you find somewhere where a bunch of lolicons trade loli content, yer gonna find real CP too. Does anyone want to take that risk in their community? No.

Colloquially and functionally are two different things.

And all I'm saying is that is still censorship, no matter the reasons, being avoiding law repercussion, maintaining an image or whatever, they treat the loli stuff as if it was the real stuff, and believe it or not, that doesn't help people to make the distinction, and in the end is a self-fulfilling prophecy when both groups are treated the same way and constantly mashed together
And come on, even if every website decided to ban lolicon forever, those people would keep finding a way to distribute it, many of them use facebook with all the vigilance and algorithms that can ban you for writing "black " in any comment, any context, those guys are already criminals, banning lolicon doesn't affect them

I don't know where you live but here people are so pissed off that if you date someone that is 16-17yo they call you pedophile instantly, and then there is people who call lolicon a way to normalize pedophilia, now I may be paranoid, but 2 years ago some homeless guy was burned alive by a mob because they thought he raped a little girl days ago, in the end It wasn't him, even the girl said it, but they burned him anyway, and when the police came, no one saw anything, so yeah, people are constantly fed up with news about murders, kidnappers, rapists, specially about women and children so is reasonable this kind of response, yet that doesn't make it an OK response, does it?

So yeah, I doubt I will get the same disgusted face for saying I'm into scat if I say I'm into lolicon, if the person realizes what those means, of course

Delexicus · Dec 3, 2020

Tellukoz said:
And all I'm saying is that is still censorship, no matter the reasons, being avoiding law repercussion, maintaining an image or whatever, they treat the loli stuff as if it was the real stuff, and believe it or not, that doesn't help people to make the distinction, and in the end is a self-fulfilling prophecy when both groups are treated the same way and constantly mashed together

And come on, even if every website decided to ban lolicon forever, those people would keep finding a way to distribute it, many of them use facebook with all the vigilance and algorithms that can ban you for writing "black " in any comment, any context, those guys are already criminals, banning lolicon doesn't affect them

I don't know where you live but here people are so pissed off that if you date someone that is 16-17yo they call you pedophile instantly, and then there is people who call lolicon a way to normalize pedophilia, now I may be paranoid, but 2 years ago some homeless guy was burned alive by a mob because they thought he raped a little girl days ago, in the end It wasn't him, even the girl said it, but they burned him anyway, and when the police came, no one saw anything, so yeah, people are constantly fed up with news about murders, kidnappers, rapists, specially about women and children so is reasonable this kind of response, yet that doesn't make it an OK response, does it?

So yeah, I doubt I will get the same disgusted face for saying I'm into scat if I say I'm into lolicon, if the person realizes what those means, of course

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