RPG Unknown/Hiatus Malise and the Machine - Public Demo Available Now!

[Ninja_Named_Bob]

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Hey, it's a game, so monster impregnating a cyborg is possible . On the other hand, for the same reason, everyone and everything in the game can be sterile/barren .

I just imagine the monsters sperm having the property of dissolving machine parts and forming into a uterus and embryo, even though the energy produced from Darwin rolling in his grave would be sufficient to power the entire planet for three-hundred years.

 

[AltairPL]

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I just imagine the monsters sperm having the property of dissolving machine parts and forming into a uterus and embryo, even though the energy produced from Darwin rolling in his grave would be sufficient to power the entire planet for three-hundred years.

Well, to be fair, she is synthetic human with cybernetic parts... she has vagina and apparently uterus as well - all those eggs had to go somewhere .
I agree on the Darwin thing though, but at least he's not alone, and many other great minds are turning in their graves along with him .

 

[Zoom]

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I just imagine the monsters sperm having the property of dissolving machine parts and forming into a uterus and embryo, <...>

Suddenly it makes more sense that Darth Maul has not died in Episode 1, but been resurrected as a cyborg - from a junkjard - with a mechanical abdomen (Star Wars Clone Wars).

 

[Ninja_Named_Bob]

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Well, to be fair, she is synthetic human with cybernetic parts... she has vagina and apparently uterus as well - all those eggs had to go somewhere .
I agree on the Darwin thing though, but at least he's not alone, and many other great minds are turning in their graves along with him .

((This scene inspired by Dragonball Z))

You can have your robot pregnancy if you include that in bold letters somewhere in the cg.

Suddenly it makes more sense that Darth Maul has not died in Episode 1, but been resurrected as a cyborg - from a junkjard - with a mechanical abdomen (Star Wars Clone Wars).

That, and the part he fell down what appeared to a depth-less shaft and either ended up in space or a splatter on someone's windshield. I don't think Palpatine could justify a Maul-sized stain on the Star Wars equivalent of a corvette.

 

[DarkShadow]

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At the risk of Eromancer throwing a hissyfit at anyone saying anything about his game here is some info for you guys, (since it appears a bunch of you here have no clue how reproduction works)...

Fertilization occurs only in animals of the "same" species, primarily because of the (lock & key) effect of surface molecules on egg and sperm cells. Before a sperm cell can successfully fertilize the egg, the molecules on the surface of the sperm cell must "lock" with the surface molecules on the egg cell. This only happens when the sperm and egg cell are of the same species. For example, if one attempts to fertilize a human egg with sperm cell from say a dog, the surface molecules on the egg would not match to and lock with the surface molecules on the dog's sperm cells. No fertilization could take place.

I don't know what your knowledge is of biology but these two links describe in a fairly complicated way, just how fertilization occurs at the molecular level.

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Humans and animals cannot have offspring with each other. The reason is in the genetic structure of the two. Even though humans are closely related to apes, they can not impregnate one another because the DNA just doesn't match.

Assuming that a successful intercourse took place and that sperm actually encountered an egg, there would be no action because the two are too different. Either the sperm would not penetrate the egg's outer shell or if it did, the combination of DNA helices would not occur.

All members of the human race can have healthy children because the differences in our genes come from adapting to climate and other changes. This is also true for closely related animals such as tigers and lions which can interbreed, as well as horses and donkeys. But as others have explained, humans can't breed with the animals because we've diverged too far from them.

This brings up another interesting situation. Despite Star Trek's interspecies population, we will never be able to bear progeny from another planetary species. They will be even farther away from us genetically than the animals on Earth, with whom we share as much as 95% or more of our common genetic inheritance!!

humans can't breed with anything that is not human. Humans can't be impreganted by monkeys, gorillas, snakes, jellyfish, tigers, domesticated cats, mice, frogs, spiders....and the list goes on.

"it is not possible for a human to impregnate a dog nor is it possible for a dog to impregnate a human.

First, the sperm and eggs in nearly all species have membrane proteins that recognize same-species gametes--human eggs will only recognize human sperm, goat eggs will only recognize goat sperm, etc. Secondly, for a human (or any other animal, for that matter) to be viable, it must have the correct number of chromosomes. Normal adult human cells have 46 chromosomes (23 derived from the mother, 23 derived from the father). Dogs have 76 chromosomes in each of their cells (38 of maternal origin, 38 of paternal origin). So, assuming that somehow fertilization of a human egg with a dog sperm (or a dog egg with human sperm) took place, the resulting zygote would have 61 chromosomes (23 of maternal origin and 38 of paternal origin (or vice versa))--this genome would be incompatible with life and therefore the embryo would spontaneously abort."

A few extra things I'd like to point out:

-01: Humans do not have the same number of chromosomes as animals. Which is why they can't impregnate each other. Do you honestly believe that a creature/monster that doesn't even look remotely Human will have the same number of chromosomes as Humans? IMPOSSIBLE!

-02: Neon is a synthetic. Even if she does have all the "lady parts" it makes no sense for her to be able to get pregnant. Why would anyone make a robot/synthetic/machine/cyborg that can produce offspring? What possible purpose could that serve at all?

-03: If Malise/Neon can actually get impregnated by the creatures in this game then how would you explain them bringing the offspring to term and giving birth in a matter of mere moments? Remember, it takes the Human body ~9 months to bring a fertilized egg to term.

-04: Malise/Neon know the kind of world they live in and the dangers of their job/adventures. Why wouldn't they be using birth control pills just in case something does happen? Knowing what they're in for and charging in without taking precautions makes no sense. That would be like them just asking for trouble.

Adding pregnancy to this game from anything other than a Human enemy would make no sense at all.

HOWEVER!! It is an entirely different story if there is an enemy that lays eggs inside Malise/Neon, and then that same enemy also fertilizes those eggs with its own sperm. So Malise/Neon is basically just used as an incubator. That is an entirely different thing than Malise/Neon actually getting impregnated by a creature. Although, even using this method will most certainly bother some people if every enemy can do it.

 

[AltairPL]

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@DarkShadow
I seriously doubt he would/will throw a fit. But honestly, I don't see a reason to get so serious .

I think all/most of us know about the stuff you quoted, even if at a basic level, but the problem with your statement is that you're comparing reality to a computer game. Games (books, movies, and other stuff as well, but let's concentrate on games) are specific medium in which reality is not the most important thing and for various reasons some parts of the computer games are not true to how things are in the real world.

One of the best examples of this is "Health/HP" mechanism used in games for decades - consequences of getting slashed or shot in reality are usually very serious - from being unable to act for some time, loosing ability to use the limb (or loosing the limb altogether), up to instant death. But, playing the game in which player character is seriously disabled or dead even after one hit, would be very tedious and boring, so it was simplified into a "Health/HP" bar/indicator, which gives player some leeway and in turn makes game more enjoyable.

As for hentai games - players and devs have various kinks and fetishes and to include some of them in the game, some part of reality compliance have to be sacrificed .

 

[Yoshiiki]

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-02: Neon is a synthetic. Even if she does have all the "lady parts" it makes no sense for her to be able to get pregnant. Why would anyone make a robot/synthetic/machine/cyborg that can produce offspring? What possible purpose could that serve at all?

Ask Dr. Gero? Especially about Android 18 (that technically is a cyborg).
I am sure there was some ill intent behind this :>



What? That's the first that came to my mind...

 

[Ninja_Named_Bob]

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-04: Malise/Neon know the kind of world they live in and the dangers of their job/adventures. Why wouldn't they be using birth control pills just in case something does happen? Knowing what they're in for and charging in without taking precautions makes no sense. That would be like them just asking for trouble.

Commander: Base, please advise. Enemies have potential to reproduce with living specimens of any species.

Base: Roger, commander. Deploying battlefield contraceptives and birth control.

 

[wiggins96]

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.051 just got released for patreons

 

[censuur]

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At the risk of Eromancer throwing a hissyfit at anyone saying anything about his game here is some info for you guys, (since it appears a bunch of you here have no clue how reproduction works)...

Oh boy, nothing like someone who presumes he knows everything while everyone else knows nothing.

-01: Humans do not have the same number of chromosomes as animals. Which is why they can't impregnate each other. Do you honestly believe that a creature/monster that doesn't even look remotely Human will have the same number of chromosomes as Humans? IMPOSSIBLE!

I'm sure that's all REALLY relevant when talking about synthetic humanoids and bio horrors.

-02: Neon is a synthetic. Even if she does have all the "lady parts" it makes no sense for her to be able to get pregnant. Why would anyone make a robot/synthetic/machine/cyborg that can produce offspring? What possible purpose could that serve at all?

At this point the relevant question isn't "what purpose could that serve" because I can think of hundreds of reasons, the question you need to be answering is "why would that be impossible" and you don't, you can't.

-03: If Malise/Neon can actually get impregnated by the creatures in this game then how would you explain them bringing the offspring to term and giving birth in a matter of mere moments? Remember, it takes the Human body ~9 months to bring a fertilized egg to term.

Correction, it takes the human body 8-10 months to bring human offspring to term, you really need to look up the word "relevance" and learn to apply it, because this is just getting silly.

-04: Malise/Neon know the kind of world they live in and the dangers of their job/adventures.

Did we play the same game? Neon clearly has no sodding clue what she's getting into, quite clearly so

Adding pregnancy to this game from anything other than a Human enemy would make no sense at all.

Seriously? A game about flying hand-grabbing sleeves, tentacle pods and rape-flies, cross-species pregnancy is where you draw the line? Really?

Let's just leave out the rest of this blatant bullshit and cut to the chase. You're presuming an awful lot about the setting, the characters, the mechanics involved and that this must all be human-like in how it works. Where the hell do you even get this idea? At this point all that you've established is that you're narrow minded to an absurd degree, go watch a few episodes of Startrek and come back to this, since you seem to have no idea about the basics of science fiction if you're insisting it must be true-to-life.

 

[Ooblex]

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autism levels we didn't think were possible

There, I've reduced your giant wall of text to a functionally identical single sentence.

Everyone here is aware of how sexual reproduction works. What you are apparently incapable of understanding (I'm going to assume, for the moment, you're the sort of person who gets upset when the eigenvectors don't actually balance in your attempt to realistically model a space battle in Star Trek) is that this is sci-fi fantasy (yes, I am combining the terms. sue me.) where:

1. Anything Is Possible(tm) due to magic--I mean, advanced technology. How are you even able to convince yourself that your post makes sense?

2. We don't know for a fact if the MCs are even genetically human (and if not, particularly if their biological parts are synthetic in origin, you're assuming their cells and chromosomes are organized similarly to contemporary terrestrial life; even on earth, there are actually a handful of species that don't use standard DNA base pairs); for all you know they are some kind of adaptive cellular mechanism that can integrate itself with a wide variety of foreign DNA.

3. We don't know ANYTHING about the biological or cellular characteristics of her opponents.

4. You're assuming that this magical non-human futuristic reproduction has to operate in the same time span and for the exact same purposes as contemporary human reproduction.

5/10 trolling got me to reply

Commander: Base, please advise. Enemies have potential to reproduce with living specimens of any species.

Base: Roger, commander. Deploying battlefield contraceptives and birth control.

>implying monsters are going to put on a rubber because you asked nicely
>implying base has spent the necessary R&D to develop birth control for cyborgs
>implying said birth control would even work against monsters which very well may have been designed to forcibly impregnate females , including the very plausible possibility their semen (or whatever) contains anti-BC countermeasures
>le meme arrows

 

[Slam Sector]

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Please stop arguing about how fictional pregnancies work.

 

[blood mane]

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Please stop arguing about how fictional pregnancies work.

i agree with this guy. AND LET THE CREATORS DO THEIR WORK

 

[nanaya1234]

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So is there any content aside from the starter area at the moment? Wondering when to become a patron again.

 

[Ooblex]

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Please stop arguing about how fictional pregnancies work.

Don't worry. When a new update comes we'll switch over to arguing about that instead.

 

[Rule 34]

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So is there any content aside from the starter area at the moment? Wondering when to become a patron again.

As of .051 no. That update was mostly about implementing stuff that would make content creation easier going forward. Personally, I'm not holding my breath for .06 to deliver a new level on a meaningful scale, as that'd entail a bunch of new maps AND up to 3 new enemies. But that's pure speculation on my part. Watch this space for more official information coming in from Altair or Eromancer.

 

[ahrimansiah]

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So in which version and around when can we expect new neon outfit to be compatible with all correct enemies? i mean adding missing sprites.
thanks

 

[Rule 34]

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The missing sprites were added with .051. If you're a patron, you no longer get personal messages for updates - they now show up in the patron only posts of the patreon.

 

[ahrimansiah]

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oh thanks!!

 

[EcchiExpress]

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Noticed there has been a lack of news(well over a month) on the game's tumblr and blogspot about this project since you guys moved onto monthly payments. What's going on with the project? Or did you guys lock the news and previews of this game behind a paywall in patreon?