(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[0nymous]

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Today was a good day.

I finally cleared Base Scramble I.

If you actually did it with your own tactics instead of looking up video guides and copying them, then congrats dude. I couldn't ever be bothered for that, although I usually modify them with the capabilities of my own units.

Anyways, do we know the drop rates for this event yet? I assume not because the wiki doesn't have them. Lucille's skill is one of those pesky 0/10 ones, so it might take me a while to max her... although I might just give up once I mincost her. Problem is, I don't know if the 12 stamina mission would be more time efficient than running the 4th, 5 stamina mission, since I also need some silver healers.

 

[Orion]

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I think they don't bother with the drop rates anymore because the percentages probably don't change. The last time they put in the drop rates (Rita) the 55/7 or 70/7 map is 50% and the 40/5 or 50/5 is 27%, which was what the drop rates were listed for the previous UFs.

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The only difference with the Unit Farms now is the 90/12 map, which is always a 100% drop for the event girl.

 

[Ericridge]

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If you actually did it with your own tactics instead of looking up video guides and copying them, then congrats dude. I couldn't ever be bothered for that, although I usually modify them with the capabilities of my own units.

Anyways, do we know the drop rates for this event yet? I assume not because the wiki doesn't have them. Lucille's skill is one of those pesky 0/10 ones, so it might take me a while to max her... although I might just give up once I mincost her. Problem is, I don't know if the 12 stamina mission would be more time efficient than running the 4th, 5 stamina mission, since I also need some silver healers.

Thank you.

Anyways, Drop Rates probably better than Belinda's event. I don't know this for sure. I have very small sample size to compare with.

I did one run through all of belinda's maps and received zero silver units.

While One run through most of Lucille's maps, I have received One lucille, two ricardos, and a single bouquet. Plus one lucille guaranteed drop from first stage.

edit: oho, I want Rita now. Didn't know about her.

 

[Xion]

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I don't know if the 12 stamina mission would be more time efficient than running the 4th, 5 stamina mission, since I also need some silver healers.

Depends on what you want, if you want Lucille go for the 50/7 or the 90/12 map, they have a better drop rate, but if you want to try your luck with the silvers go with whatever map you like. I personally never recommend to farm silvers in a farm event, the timeframe is to short and the drop rate to low. Actually i min cost Rorone only doing the 55/7 map, i and got some extra copies, you could try that one and if you aren't getting the result you want swicht by friday to the 90/12 so you can get at least 8 guaranted copies of Lucille. (<- Only in the case you want Lucille)

Thank you.

Anyways, Drop Rates probably better than Belinda's event. I don't know this for sure. I have very small sample size to compare with.

I did one run through all of belinda's maps and received zero silver units.

While One run through most of Lucille's maps, I have received One lucille, two ricardos, and a single bouquet. Plus one lucille guaranteed drop from first stage.

edit: oho, I want Rita now. Didn't know about her.

Like Orion said, the drop rates are all the same for farm events, they go from 10 to 50 between the first 5 maps with the new 90/12 given 100% chance.

Silvers on the other hand have 10-15 between those same maps with 20 in the last (IIRC).

Belinda was an special case, the same with Hana, their events have some kind of special trait, Belinda and Cloris had low drop rate chance during the first time they were launch, that change recently and they have been upgrate to 10-15% in the daily revival rotation (CMIIW).

Sorry but we may never get Rita's rival, there is a better chance that we get her with the daily revival system, but by then Hell would had frozen already and pigs would be rulling the earth.

 

[khawk016]

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Depends on what you want, if you want Lucille go for the 50/7 or the 90/12 map, they have a better drop rate, but if you want to try your luck with the silvers go with whatever map you like. I personally never recommend to farm silvers in a farm event, the timeframe is to short and the drop rate to low. Actually i min cost Rorone only doing the 55/7 map, i and got some extra copies, you could try that one and if you aren't getting the result you want swicht by friday to the 90/12 so you can get at least 8 guaranted copies of Lucille. (<- Only in the case you want Lucille)

id love to ignore the silvers but ive been out of valkyries for a month or 2 due to skiped events havin valks and events we got had none for atlest 3 events and my precious uzume has just been sitting at 50 but lucille so good though the devs have done our version good in one aspect and thats features like auto complete and the balance patches i wouldent be shocked if daily revivals happen early next year if the games still up by then

 

[Zero Zet]

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People say that farm unit's drop rate is consistently 1+staminacost^2

 

[omega780]

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id love to ignore the silvers but ive been out of valkyries for a month or 2 due to skiped events havin valks and events we got had none for atlest 3 events and my precious uzume has just been sitting at 50 but lucille so good though the devs have done our version good in one aspect and thats features like auto complete and the balance patches i wouldent be shocked if daily revivals happen early next year if the games still up by then

I would prefer to do the last 2 maps but I have been in a serious deficit of valks for the longest time, also I need to get an extra one since Lucille needs 1 to CC. Ive been getting a decent amount of Lucilles from the valk map too, already at 5/10 30UP. But seriously, why do most things use valks to AW!!!

People say that farm unit's drop rate is consistently 1+staminacost^2

Almost. It should be (1+staminacost^2) - (Want + desperation) = droprate

 

[Rawr1125]

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Oh boy, that +5 to unit cost on awakening for the new unit. <.<

Hope I can min cost her by the end of the event.

 

[0nymous]

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Damn, turns out Flamel will need a CC'd Ertel for AW.
Do you guys use your old maxed units as fodder once they're obsolete and you get superior golden/platinum units? I feel like it would be a damn waste, from the completionist perspective of owning every unit.
On the other hand, CCing another Ertel is going to be a pain, and I will very likely never use her again... few guides consider her niche usage, too.

 

[Nirhael]

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but lucille so good

I'm honestly curious: What makes Lucille good in your eyes? I have her on DMM but literally never fielded her despite having her at 50CC60ish and maxed Affection.

Damn, turns out Flamel will need a CC'd Ertel for AW.
Do you guys use your old maxed units as fodder once they're obsolete and you get superior golden/platinum units? I feel like it would be a damn waste, from the completionist perspective of owning every unit.
On the other hand, CCing another Ertel is going to be a pain, and I will very likely never use her again... few guides consider her niche usage, too.

I'd eat maxed out Silvers if I ran out of spares, but haven't had to so far due to all the 2k rolls I do.

The main issue with Ertel is that her Affection bonus is Def... it's just really bad since you mostly want her to heal from behind your frontline, not tank stuff.

 

[Tesseract]

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Do you guys use your old maxed units as fodder once they're obsolete and you get superior golden/platinum units? I feel like it would be a damn waste, from the completionist perspective of owning every unit.

No way man. Not even from a completionist perspective. You never know when you might want or need a unit in the future. They might get buffs or changes, or become more relevant for certain maps. Silver units getting 50cc55 abilities is a good example. Not even the people who use the DMM wiki as a bible know for sure (although I'm sure they'd like to tell you otherwise. It is the Internet, after all).

 

[razisgosu]

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I've been holding onto a max level Dorca for quite sometime now. Silvers are worth holding onto if you can ever gather enough silvers to min cost them. There are some maps where UP is extremely tight and min cost silvers get the job done, or allow you to place slightly higher cost units thanks to the reduced cost.

It really annoys me that my Alyssa is 17 cost and I never have enough surplus silvers to try an min cost her.

 

[khawk016]

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I'm honestly curious: What makes Lucille good in your eyes? I have her on DMM but literally never fielded her despite having her at 50CC60ish and maxed Affection.


I'd eat maxed out Silvers if I ran out of spares, but haven't had to so far due to all the 2k rolls I do.

The main issue with Ertel is that her Affection bonus is Def... it's just really bad since you mostly want her to heal from behind your frontline, not tank stuff.

for me shes so good cause i lack duelists on this side my duelists i rely on mostly are lyla and claudia
i to have her on dmm but shes underused because of the units i have pulled olivier

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mainly nehza she has a similar skill after its skill aw and has nutso def and atk

also theres a event coming up with priest armours as a drop but its pupuru and everyone thinks shes getting skipped so you sol if she does get skipped

 

[Ericridge]

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Hey I'm curious do Vampire Hunters like Khuri and Vincent really shoot two arrows for every time they fire? I'm asking because their attack looks like it's really low.

And then this has been bugging me for awhile.

If you look at the screenshot, you will see that Bandit Mortimer is outside the range of Healer Iris but Healer Iris still can reach him and heal him anyways. Which indicates that Iris' green circle is really bigger than it shows.

Is it intentional?

 

[omega780]

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Hey I'm curious do Vampire Hunters like Khuri and Vincent really shoot two arrows for every time they fire? I'm asking because their attack looks like it's really low.

And then this has been bugging me for awhile.

If you look at the screenshot, you will see that Bandit Mortimer is outside the range of Healer Iris but Healer Iris still can reach him and heal him anyways. Which indicates that Iris' green circle is really bigger than it shows.

Is it intentional?

Vampire Hunters do shoot multiple shots, it makes up for their low attack. Its pretty good against enemies with low defense.

For the Iris range, I think as long as it slightly clips mortimer's hitbox it can still heal him. Hard to find out whether or not a unit is in range of a healer other than from trial and error.

 

[extreoxy]

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@0nymous keep any levelled silver you have you will need them for some 4 star mission since some have the gimmick that anything above silver costs 3 times more.

 

[Xion]

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Hey I'm curious do Vampire Hunters like Khuri and Vincent really shoot two arrows for every time they fire? I'm asking because their attack looks like it's really low.

And then this has been bugging me for awhile.

If you look at the screenshot, you will see that Bandit Mortimer is outside the range of Healer Iris but Healer Iris still can reach him and heal him anyways. Which indicates that Iris' green circle is really bigger than it shows.

Is it intentional?

They shoot three arrows upon CC not two, they're slower than archers but the can rip a new hole in every enemy low def (or any kind of undead, you know vampires, skeletons, ghouls,lichs, those weird pumpkin things that suck the life out of the people of several kingdoms).

Every healer is like that, actually every range unit is like that, the range shown by the green circle is a tiny bit smaller that what it actually is (i have tested this on dmm) in the healers case they are less obvious since we tend to put the units that will be heal always inside that green circle (to avoid unneeded casualities).
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To the guy that ask if he should get rid of Erthel, don't later we'll get the 4* challange map, those are some of the hardess maps that exist since most of them restrict the UP or the units that can be used, so try to keep your silver only team at hand, you're gonna need it.

 

[Fayne]

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If you look at the screenshot, you will see that Bandit Mortimer is outside the range of Healer Iris but Healer Iris still can reach him and heal him anyways. Which indicates that Iris' green circle is really bigger than it shows.

Is it intentional?

You can find out the real range, when you place your healer. Instead of just pulling the unit over the circle, move her sprite as close the edge as possible (you can even go a little bit over the edge). If the green area touches the circle, that indicates where other units can be placed even a little bit, this spot will be in range.
In the following gif I wanted to know whether the spot below Rita was in range for example. In this case it was pretty obvious, but I don't think I have a better example on video right know (or am too lazy to search for it^^). Sadly I didn't select Chydis afterwards, so I can't show you that Chydis range indicator when placed barely touches the spot (and doesn't touch the sprite of most placed units) (Edit: Now I added how it looks when Chydis is placed).

Spoiler

 

[Nirhael]

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for me shes so good cause i lack duelists on this side my duelists i rely on mostly are lyla and claudia
i to have her on dmm but shes underused because of the units i have pulled olivier

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mainly nehza she has a similar skill after its skill aw and has nutso def and atk

also theres a event coming up with priest armours as a drop but its pupuru and everyone thinks shes getting skipped so you sol if she does get skipped

That makes sense, I also have a few high-end duelists on DMM so that's probably why I feel no need to field Lucille anywhere, I have good enough duelists on Nutaku too so I guess I'll just give her a pass this time and save some resources, thanks for explaining!

Hey I'm curious do Vampire Hunters like Khuri and Vincent really shoot two arrows for every time they fire? I'm asking because their attack looks like it's really low.

And then this has been bugging me for awhile.

If you look at the screenshot, you will see that Bandit Mortimer is outside the range of Healer Iris but Healer Iris still can reach him and heal him anyways. Which indicates that Iris' green circle is really bigger than it shows.

Is it intentional?

I'm not 100% sure, but I've always worked with the deployment circles and not the sprites, if the healer/support unit's range so much as touches it, then it should be able to effect the unit.

 

[Sashas]

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A hitbox always covers feet well, it doesn't cover the head the same. This is true for both units and enemys, this makes it harder to hit something from above it than below it.