(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[Nattorei]

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Somethings I would like to point out about Lafate's AW information is that it does not cover class abilities. I am not calling him out on incompleteness, but just know that AW abilities don't tell the whole story for AW for certain classes.

And just as well, similar AW abilities may not behave in the same way. For example, Mages. Event though they all get an attack speed boost, Cyrus, Mehlis, and Sasha do not attack at the same speed after AW. All three have a different speed boost.

And Mehlis , already have increase range , now even faster?
Cyrus also seems good , there is always 2.0 increase AOE
So his decrease range seems not affect it too much since it's even faster

Which I think not that good , Bashira AW Skill Quadra Shot
Also , Barbastroff AW Ability. He is already slow enough , he become even moar slower?

Those ranges mean a lot. 200 range for Cyrus is pretty low. And Barbastroff is as fast as other Mages before AW and doesn't get that much slower.

But Mehlis and Odette are better anyway so... quack.

 

[Larcx]

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Somethings I would like to point out about Lafate's AW information is that it does not cover class abilities. I am not calling him out on incompleteness, but just know that AW abilities don't tell the whole story for AW for certain classes.

And just as well, similar AW abilities may not behave in the same way. For example, Mages. Event though they all get an attack speed boost, Cyrus, Mehlis, and Sasha do not attack at the same speed after AW. All three have a different speed boost.



Those ranges mean a lot. 200 range for Cyrus is pretty low. And Barbastroff is as fast as other Mages before AW and doesn't get that much slower.

But Mehlis and Odette are better anyway so... quack.

Really?
Why I get this kind of feel that Barbastroff attack seems slower even now
Even Cyrus and Vallerie seems attack faster?

200 Range is quite low indeed , but the AOE splash of 2.0 is also good
It could attack more enemies than the normal
I think it could attack up to 5-7 enemies(Not sure though)

Well I guess every unit have their usefull depend on situation
Still I think Cyrus is better than Barbastroff

 

[anon423]

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And Barbastroff is as fast as other Mages before AW and doesn't get that much slower.

Are you sure?
Available numbers for mages:
Bronze/Un-CC/CC/AW mage: 0.31 attacks per second (91 frames), no boost for AW.
AWed Barbastrof: 0.28 attacks per second (106 frames)
For comparison, AWed Cyrus: 0.37 attacks per second (81 frames)

In DPS at AW80 with prince buff it would be Barb 197.5 dps / Cyrus 253.5 dps.

Why I get this kind of feel that Barbastroff attack seems slower even now

All un-AW mages have same attack speed.

 

[AE1992]

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First run of the day and I finally get the silver spirit for Stray.

Thanks for the awakening guide Lafate. I read before that its best to get characters that will speed up awakening awakened first, so Betty, Monica, Cuterie and Cellia. But I also managed to get Robert, is it worth awakening him or are there not enough male units worth awakening to bother with Robert.

 

[Attackle]

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Range reduction for Cyrus makes him more situational and limiting his uses badly. Those geezers's DPS is bad to begin with and now Cyrus get 200 range while Bulbasaur get 280? That's a joke.

 

[anon423]

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is it worth awakening him or are there not enough male units worth awakening to bother with Robert.

I wouldn't bother for his drop bonus, but he could be useful as only AWable healer for males-only maps. Definitely not something of high priority, better to raise units needed for god-tier maps first.

 

[AE1992]

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I wouldn't bother for his drop bonus, but he could be useful as only AWable healer for males-only maps. Definitely not something of high priority, better to raise units needed for god-tier maps first.

Are the god-tier maps the G maps we have been getting with events or are they something different?

 

[Larcx]

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All un-AW mages have same attack speed.

OK , guess that just My feeling
Good to know all mage have same speed for now

I wouldn't bother for his drop bonus, but he could be useful as only AWable healer for males-only maps. Definitely not something of high priority, better to raise units needed for god-tier maps first.

I heard Robert can do 2K atk?

 

[Nattorei]

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And Barbastroff is as fast as other Mages before AW...

Are you sure?

All un-AW mages have same attack speed.

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But I also managed to get Robert, is it worth awakening him or are there not enough male units worth awakening to bother with Robert.

Have you seen his AW art? Roberto best Healer.

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Are the god-tier maps the G maps we have been getting with events or are they something different?

Yes. The "Kami-kyu" or God difficulty maps are the G maps on Nutaku. They are the highest difficulty through normal gameplay. This of course isn't to say that G maps and even X maps won't progressively get harder regardless of the static difficulty name.

And just for information, Majin/Demon-god maps are even harder, but there have only ever been two Majin maps. Each Majin map was its own event, only accessible on the weekend for a month with impressive rewards.

 

[Larcx]

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And just for information, Majin/Demon-god maps are even harder, but there have only ever been two Majin maps. Each Majin map was its own event, only accessible on the weekend for a month with impressive rewards.

What is the reward?
Will they need full AW team??

Almost 3 Million of Gold
Yes this number is few when AW coming

But really I kind of having the urge to do a gamble
Have not gamble for 2 weeks......

 

[Fayne]

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Actually I think he meant god tier daily maps, not event maps. They are harder but have increased drop chances

 

[Nattorei]

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What is the reward?
Will they need full AW team??

Almost 3 Million of Gold
Yes this number is few when AW coming

But really I kind of having the urge to do a gamble
Have not gamble for 2 weeks......

Yes you will need a full AW team. Your entire team will probably need to be AW70+. The boss is tough, very tough. So tough he has four different forms. So tough that all of his forms have 80+ MR. So tough that units will lose 120 HP every second just by being near him.

Edit: I checked a random video. Some guy got the second Majin done with very few AW units. All I can say for sure is that the Majin maps do have high thresholds for your units, but they can be met in a variety of ways; high level AW is just probably the most common way.

Completion reward for both Majin maps was a black armour worth 5000 experience.

 

[Herkz]

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Yes you will need a full AW team. Your entire team will probably need to be AW70+. The boss is tough, very tough. So tough he has four different forms. So tough that all of his forms have 80+ MR. So tough that units will lose 120 HP every second just by being near him.

Completion reward for both Majin maps was a black armour worth 5000 experience.

That reward looks yummy. Hope we get that one

 

[Larcx]

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Yes you will need a full AW team. Your entire team will probably need to be AW70+. The boss is tough, very tough. So tough he has four different forms. So tough that all of his forms have 80+ MR. So tough that units will lose 120 HP every second just by being near him.

Edit: I checked a random video. Some guy got the second Majin done with very few AW units. All I can say for sure is that the Majin maps do have high thresholds for your units, but they can be met in a variety of ways; high level AW is just probably the most common way.

Completion reward for both Majin maps was a black armour worth 5000 experience.

Hmm the completion reward...
So that mean only can get 2 of them

 

[ziodyne]

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PS gave me Stella.. not sure if she's good/worth keeping or not.

Should I just save her for AW fodder or is she actually worth leveling up and keeping?

 

[Nattorei]

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PS gave me Stella.. not sure if she's good/worth keeping or not.

Should I just save her for AW fodder or is she actually worth leveling up and keeping?

Good news, you can't use Stella as fodder! Her skill is unique to her, so she can't SU anything. And Pegasus Riders can't be used to CC or AW any other unit on account of there not being any silver Pegasus Riders.

As for her worth, she is okay. All Pegasus Riders are okay. They lack raw stats, but their skills are extremely powerful and useful. Stella would benefit tremendously from higher skill levels. At 5/5, her skill lasts ten seconds with a ten second cooldown. Very spammable. Overall, remember she is just a gold too so she won't be crazy powerful.

 

[ziodyne]

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Well that sucks, I can't think of anywhere she'd really be good since I have units better than her for pretty much everything. I guess one positive thing is I get her h-scenes and she is super easy to CC.

I can't find that 5-10 second skill worth putting her in over someone with superior stats all around.

 

[Nattorei]

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Well that sucks, I can't think of anywhere she'd really be good since I have units better than her for pretty much everything. I guess one positive thing is I get her h-scenes and she is super easy to CC.

I can't find that 5-10 second skill worth putting her in over someone with superior stats all around.

One good thing about Stella is that her initial timer is really low for a gold. At 1/5, 9.3 seconds and 5/5 6.7 seconds. Nutaku doesn't have the updates yet, but Pegasus Riders get the same withdrawal bonus that Valkyries get and the same UP generation on kill effect that Valkyries get. The idea is to place, wait a few seconds, use skill, AoE kill goblins or other weak enemies, and you have tons of points. Another good thing about Pegasus Riders is they have slightly more MR than Valkyries.

Eventually we will get subjugation events and other maps (I think we already had one during Solano) that do not have natural UP regeneration, so Pegasus Riders become extremely important for those.

Melee AoE is pretty good in general, just a bit more situational because maps usually allow you to just Soldier ramp your way to a Mage. But that won't always be the case.

 

[Lafate]

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Somethings I would like to point out about Lafate's AW information is that it does not cover class abilities. I am not calling him out on incompleteness, but just know that AW abilities don't tell the whole story for AW for certain classes.

And just as well, similar AW abilities may not behave in the same way. For example, Mages. Event though they all get an attack speed boost, Cyrus, Mehlis, and Sasha do not attack at the same speed after AW. All three have a different speed boost.

... Class Abilities would be for the entire class. They do not change per unit...

Have you seen his AW art? Roberto best Healer.

Nope, he is on roids. He wants to beat your girls and drink your Alcohol how can you keep that around?

 

[RabbitJack]

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Well, someone has to look after the ugly girls...