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(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)


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Rather than wasting for some RNG mercy
I think it would be wiser to spend it on Unit Capacity - Barrack - 1,2 EXP and Gold
I got both 1,2 for 40 days (now 35)
Also a question , how many day is the max of 1,2 EXP and Gold?
Maybe I should make them 75 day instead
Before I spend them on PS >.>
 
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Nattorei said:
NEVER roll. Never roll...

My only gacha gold or higher female is Fedora. And after my fourth Fedora, I decided to never roll again.

It is a cruel mistress, we are not blessed with the luck of Karsuman. *wink*
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Well, if it helps, I don't even really play the Nutaku version anymore, and my luck was much worse in it. :p
 
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Melphy said:
So, I've been carefully saving up my SC (Free only, as it turns out), and I was originally going to wait until I had about 60 and spend 50-ish of them in one go to get the Special card, and still have enough left over in case some event wanted them. But then I noticed the Deluxe card grants 10 SC over the next month instead of 5, and I figured, hey, 5 free SC if I just wait. Cool. Finally hit over 100, and just been waiting for the right moment.

I've always rather wanted Sophie, Sasha would give me a 2nd Platinum mage, Victoria... Ehhhh, maybe not so much, but still, nothing I already have in that pool except Fedora. So, I toss 5 SC at storage space (because I'm clearly going to need it, and then go do my fancy 19 Premium summons. It's kind of exciting, haven't done any of these in ages.

Of course... Of couuuurse... The game has some opinions about that sort of thing. In 19 I got... A single non-duplicate unit. And a single platinum. I suppose, really, the Platinum pull was the "best" thing about this set, which... Just ugh, look at this thing.
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Damn that's harsh.... And it has to be Bashira...
 
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Eh, my barracks is pretty big right now and I am working towards that, it's just, ever since I've been going standard summons only I've gotten... Nothing, ever. I exaggerate, slightly (... Maybe), but that Vampire Hunter there is the only new thing I've gotten from a non-event for like 6 months. Like, I do not get non-event, non-duplicate units even with hours of waiting for the bloody summon animation to play.

And, honestly, I'm not sure what's good about bonus XP or Gold at this point, I have an arbitrarily massive quantity of gold (and really a vast majority of my income comes from Gold armors, really, not end of round rewards) (I'll admit, I just don't have the will to sit there and watch the summoning animation play for literal hours, I suppose that might give my team some diversity, it's just so boring and yet not quite automatic enough for me to mostly go do other things), and outside of having the occasional Charisma recovering level during an event when the stars align, I don't feel like leveling does much of anything either since Stamina is almost never the limiting factor for doing stuff that never matters so it being refilled doesn't seem particularly meaningful. Storage space IS nice, though, it's just sections of mine are taken up with silly things like 13 silver bandits (or now 3 Strays. Seriously game?), other than space (and Charisma refreshes during events, etc. occasionally) I haven't really seen much of a use for SCs beyond maybe letting me some day actually own a Black unit or something that wasn't just handed to me via event or Trading Post.

Like, I mean, right now, the entirety of my non event/non farm/non automatic Gold units are... Themis, Kojuro [Proving I got something new somewhere in the last six months, I suppose =P], Camilla, and now Vincent.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm quite happy to have Camilla, and Themis certainly has her uses, but it's somewhat frustrating to play a game with a large component of collecting and trying out different unit abilities/strategies/w/e when you have almost no variance in what you have to work with.

Though, to make it clear, I'm not saying that I somehow have the "right" to obtain more unit variety or something, it's just why I was willing to toss my immense excess of SCs for the chance to break out of my pseudo stasis, especially since, to date, Kojuro is the only one of those units I got from standard summons. All (three) of the others are from Premium, because our demon lady of RNG loathes me so =P
 
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Just to remind people since it seems to be slightly misunderstood who makes decision on loli.

The payment processor approves or disapproves a girl that might be considered childish, we know Nordland has said they fight for every girl but in the end the decision lies with their view on whether a girl looks like an adult.

Now the developers decide how they want react to that, some will allow changes to the art work so that it will get approval from the payment processors, others like Aigis will not allow the art work to be edited and will just remove the girl from the game.
 
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fallendrgmaster said:
Just to remind people since it seems to be slightly misunderstood who makes decision on loli.

The payment processor approves or disapproves a girl that might be considered childish, we know Nordland has said they fight for every girl but in the end the decision lies with their view on whether a girl looks like an adult.

Now the developers decide how they want react to that, some will allow changes to the art work so that it will get approval from the payment processors, others like Aigis will not allow the art work to be edited and will just remove the girl from the game.
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Also a reminder; according to Nutaku several of the girls that are excluded from the game have been approved (including the silver ninja, who was never a problem to begin with).

Gameplay related question, since I get impatient and blow all my SC on premium summon whenever we have a break: Is the gold samurai Chizuru worth anything, or did I pull AW fodder? Don't think anyone at all has said anything about her on here.
 
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fallendrgmaster said:
Just to remind people since it seems to be slightly misunderstood who makes decision on loli.

The payment processor approves or disapproves a girl that might be considered childish, we know Nordland has said they fight for every girl but in the end the decision lies with their view on whether a girl looks like an adult.

Now the developers decide how they want react to that, some will allow changes to the art work so that it will get approval from the payment processors, others like Aigis will not allow the art work to be edited and will just remove the girl from the game.
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And Nutaku has gone on record saying the majority of the girls aren't a problem anymore for Aigis. So the question is, why aren't they in the game yet? Speaking for non-event units of course. Not to mention we continue to see units being replaced in events that have no reason to be, that has yet to be answered as well.

At the end of the day the communication between Aigis developers and Nutaku is not there and consumers are suffering for it. Why are we on break right now and why is Nutaku on twitter trying to play it off like this isn't becoming an increasingly worrying trend.
 
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Nutaku should link that "awaken your ...." banner to take people to the DMM version. That would be great humor mixed with some self-irony :D
 
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I'll agree with the breaks, this sucks...I didn't even bother with last weeks event mostly, partly because I wasn't really interested in her, but I haven't been playing much because of the break.

She is the first girl I didn't even bother with in the slightest, missed a couple login days as well.

I'm not overly worried but mostly because the breaks were so much longer before, and the wave of changes and events was awesome and I'm hoping it will resume when they finish coding awakening.

I was really really hoping that they were starting to invest more over here considering they brought over their other game Girls Kingdom as well....though it wasn't as well received.

I eventually quit that because a combination of grinding and time expenditure, to try and keep up with the event difficulty, but the part I enjoyed most about GK was the scenes.

As for Aigis I'm just waiting for Awakening to hit, although I have units I haven't maxed yet, most of my main team is at the cap, and I want to have something to work for.
 
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Ertx said:
Also a reminder; according to Nutaku several of the girls that are excluded from the game have been approved (including the silver ninja, who was never a problem to begin with).

Gameplay related question, since I get impatient and blow all my SC on premium summon whenever we have a break: Is the gold samurai Chizuru worth anything, or did I pull AW fodder? Don't think anyone at all has said anything about her on here.
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The units who have been approved will, hopefully, make their way into the game in a tactful manner. They won't just throw all the new units in as soon as possible. As much as we dislike the JP devs, they aren't dumb. They manage their game with aplomb and success. If they're holding off, they more than likely have a reason. Their treatment with us just boils down to Nutaku Aigis being what can best be described as a pet project for them. We are low key and not that important. Personally, I'm not going to let these very small problems affect me, especially since I've been through worse both including the six-week break and before that break as well.

As for Chizuru, she has the most raw attack of any normal Samurai, including the plats. Momiji, the event Samurai, has more, but she attacks slightly slower. Also not to mention that the plat Samurais have better skills. Chizuru's HP is also extremely high, on Bandit level. But her defense is trash**. She is a very weird unit, but not as bad as some people make her out to be. Very effective anti-magic unit*. And if nothing else, her design is lovely.

*Can anyone, with certainty, say if Chizuru can dodge lich magic?
**Literally 206 defense at AW80.
 
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Wow so Chizuru is pretty much a glass tank.
 
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fallendrgmaster said:
I was really really hoping that they were starting to invest more over here considering they brought over their other game Girls Kingdom as well....though it wasn't as well received.

I eventually quit that because a combination of grinding and time expenditure, to try and keep up with the event difficulty, but the part I enjoyed most about GK was the scenes.
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Which part are you exactly having trouble with for the events? GK didn't take too much time for me, even for the 3000 points for a scene. Usually spend maybe an hour a day or so attacking, and then log on a few times a day to produce units.
 
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Well mostly it was time expenditure and having to try to keep up. Your strategies were great but the 3000 point scene just sealed the deal I think the highest I got was around 1000 or so in previous events and the game just wasn't interesting enough for me to keep playing.

I pretty much looked at it and decided it was much easier to read doujin or play visual novels then mess with the GK for the scenes.

I was tired of waiting for Dragons to respawn for three stars or just trying to spam a few units per map to level them up.

Oh and the kill X number units event quest that popped up that was the other nail in the coffin. I had intended to keep upgrading my base and keeping in active but after I set my soldier and put down the walls for the initials...I kinda forgot all about GK.

Gave me more time to focus on Aigis, I need to boot up Kanpani at somepoint too, but thats more of a single player thing so I've just kinda ignored it since the silly new year event started.
 
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Ertx said:
Gameplay related question, since I get impatient and blow all my SC on premium summon whenever we have a break: Is the gold samurai Chizuru worth anything, or did I pull AW fodder? Don't think anyone at all has said anything about her on here.
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Chizuru is an interesting unit and is actually fairly good once awakened, albeit still niche. Nattorei covered the basics, but I'll elaborate some. As Nattorei already stated, she's essentially a glasscannon HP sponge like Bandits, but can block more and hit multiple units. Her Awakened Ability gives a 10% boost to her attack power which takes her already large attack compared to other samurai and boosts it even further.

Her base skill is fairly useful since it turns her into a dodge tank against all ranged units, both physical and magical, as well as help protect other units from ranged attacks since she'll draw their fire, which gives her some niche tactical uses. Her evasion caps at 80%, so it's not as powerful as Olivia's 100% physical dodge, but it has a max duration of 30 seconds, minimum cooldown of 30 seconds, and a minimum wait time of 20 seconds.

Finally, her Awakened Skill retains the 80% evasion of ranged attacks as well as attracting their fire, gives her a ranged attack with 240 range, and drops her block count to 1 while retaining the 30 second duration. However, the wait time and cooldown increase to 26.7 and 40 seconds respectively. So, overall it's an improvement since she can draw fire and attack back in exchange for a lower block count and a longer wait time and cooldown.

Nattorei said:
*Can anyone, with certainty, say if Chizuru can dodge lich magic?
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Chizuru can potentially dodge any ranged physical or magical attack as long as she is directly targeted. So, yes she can dodge a lich's blast or even ranged AoE fireballs if she is directly targeted. However, she can't dodge the splash of AoE ranged attacks that target other units, so that is something to note.
 
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Wasted all day and half of monday... and that spotlight units... I just can't see it -,- didn't get neither Sophie nor Sasha and no SCs left so I'm quite annoyed. And that break...

Just had to complain a bit :p

Edit: btw, how good is Victoria? Between Bashira and Spica, perhaps?
 
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*Reputation response*
Sources for my previous statements since someone didn't agree with them. You can call them excuses if you want but I'm just trying to keep accurate information out there since it tends to get lost in the depths of the original threads the first time it was brought up over a year ago.


NutakuDev said:
Keep in mind that decisions about content aren't made by us - they're made by banks and credit card companies. It's not the US Supreme Court ruling on what sort of content is unacceptable, it's "the company whose card is in your wallet" deciding what they will process payments for. Nutaku fights for every character, even the questionable ones, because we want to bring over the successful game as it exists currently.

So far we're doing a pretty good job. The list of characters that have been delayed is very short and we hope to get them in anyway, at some point.
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From Ask.fm
Why is all the lolis removed or have breast implants in the games?

We keep as much content in the game as possible, while making sure that credit card companies and Paypal will continue to work with us. Sometimes they (or their agents) ask us to tweak content that is deemed underage.

We spend a great deal of time thinking of ways to avoid changing anything. Some games exclude content, like Aigis. Others alter it, like Osawari Island. Right now we're not really happy with either solution.

That said, if we lose our payment processing, then the Nutaku project ends tomorrow. So we do what we have to keep things running, even if we don't like it.
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Edit: And yes I keep a notepad file on the subject it comes up ALOT :D
 
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Thanks for the updated information. I should have quoted the original post to which I was replying. To the person asking why we were missing some characters when other games were receiving characters that some may few as similar.

I saw several other posts in the same vein so I brought up the payment processors as originally they were the problem that prevented the characters from being implemented.

Now many, characters have been approved (yay Mischa.) But they haven't been implemented yet. I'll give you that is a developement issue.

But after being around for over a year, when I see people asking about why one game versus another has girls who share their traits the answer is still payment processors. Both pieces are part of the whole answer:

-payment processors said no originally causing the issue in the first place.

-now Aigis developers are still getting around to trying to code the girls back into the game.

The Aigis developers are notoriously slow with coding changes into the game. Likely because it looks like we still have a small or singular team, something that the constant events had me believing otherwise.

I wouldn't have even said anything else, but I got negative rep, so I decided to update with sources I had.

I expect we will be getting them sometime sooner than later though, not going to believe it is going to hit with awakening but you never know. The patch when we got autocomplete (way ahead of schedule) was a great surprise.
 
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Leonhardt said:
Chizuru is an interesting unit and is actually fairly good once awakened, albeit still niche. Nattorei covered the basics, but I'll elaborate some. As Nattorei already stated, she's essentially a glasscannon HP sponge like Bandits, but can block more and hit multiple units. Her Awakened Ability gives a 10% boost to her attack power which takes her already large attack compared to other samurai and boosts it even further.

Her base skill is fairly useful since it turns her into a dodge tank against all ranged units, both physical and magical, as well as help protect other units from ranged attacks since she'll draw their fire, which gives her some niche tactical uses. Her evasion caps at 80%, so it's not as powerful as Olivia's 100% physical dodge, but it has a max duration of 30 seconds, minimum cooldown of 30 seconds, and a minimum wait time of 20 seconds.

Finally, her Awakened Skill retains the 80% evasion of ranged attacks as well as attracting their fire, gives her a ranged attack with 240 range, and drops her block count to 1 while retaining the 30 second duration. However, the wait time and cooldown increase to 26.7 and 40 seconds respectively. So, overall it's an improvement since she can draw fire and attack back in exchange for a lower block count and a longer wait time and cooldown.



Chizuru can potentially dodge any ranged physical or magical attack as long as she is directly targeted. So, yes she can dodge a lich's blast or even ranged AoE fireballs if she is directly targeted. However, she can't dodge the splash of AoE ranged attacks that target other units, so that is something to note.
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Reason I asked is because there is a distinction between ranged attacks and projectiles. I know she can dodge fireballs, but I imagined that it would be hard for Chizuru to dodge dark magic that is always cast directly on the receiving unit. Thank you, good to know.

In any case, I'm waiting for her. Fantastic design trumps usefulness.
 
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razisgosu said:
Nutakudev just came in here a few weeks ago and said a bunch of characters were cleared for implementation to the game and that the environment for a "wider array of characters" has improved. That information is outdated.

http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showpost.php?p=775649&postcount=14245

http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showpost.php?p=775610&postcount=14227
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Its not outdated and definitely still applies. Having a character "cleared" by the payment processors is a good thing, but that decision can be overturned at any point. This is why developers will still have to be careful. They put too much questionable content in --> some outrage group complains --> payment processor pulls out support --> game over. You can't just go in and remove all that content that people have already paid for. As far as Aigis goes, they are probably just being overly (or maybe appropriately) careful. They have seemed hesitant about putting any amount of significant work into Aigis Eng so far. Seems like they don't want to put too much work into it in case it fails horribly.
 
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