(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[khawk016]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

HOLY
I don't mind doing the story mission without auto-complete
I prefer event more

You said that Jap has running for years
And that why exactly we need no break
How do You expect to catch up with this current slowpoke rate
I'm not asking we are on the same par with those Jap server
What I want is atleast we are 6 month before the Jap
With the current rate and with the break it just make the gap wider and wider
Not all people will stay , and when majority quit
The game will also gone

Play the JP , yeah rite
DMM block foreigner , and I'm too lazy to bypass it

I'm gonna complaint as much as I want
Just ignore Me

why do we need to catch up at all it makes no difference if were a year a month or 2 years behind it will always be ahead irregardless and 6 months ago on jap side i couldent even do 3-4 maps into any event with cc 30-50 units which is what we have as our limit so the further they try to fruitlessly catch up the more things we lose mainly key units
as for auto complete if you want to waste time go for it its up to you and its a great victory it shows we dont just get older features all the time maybe all the fixes and buff tweaks exc make it in earlier probably not but still

 

[Larcx]

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why do we need to catch up at all it makes no difference if were a year a month or 2 years behind it will always be ahead irregardless and 6 months ago on jap side i couldent even do 3-4 maps into any event with cc 30-50 units which is what we have as our limit so the further they try to fruitlessly catch up the more things we lose mainly key units
as for auto complete its a great victory it shows we dont just get older features all the time maybe all the fixes and buff tweaks exc make it in earlier

Coz of bored
I already have all My core team Max
Some of the previous reward like Solano or Horace already 65
And if Your reason , why not Max the other
lel , some of their AW is not that good. Well some say still worth it. But I guess Stray is not My priority

Affection , I already have 100% core female unit
100% core male unit
And still have quite many spare aff/trust item

And what??
Do You expect Me to do IB and Phalanx endlessly?
By this point I might get Myself to Lv 192 before next event

lol
Why do this Auto complete have to do with event / break anyway?

 

[khawk016]

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Coz of bored
I already have all My core team Max
Some of the previous reward like Solano or Horace already 65
And if Your reason , why not Max the other
lel , some of their AW is not that good. Well some say still worth it. But I guess Stray is not My priority

Affection , I already have 100% core female unit
100% core male unit
And still have quite many spare aff/trust item

And what??
Do You expect Me to do IB and Phalanx endlessly?
By this point I might get Myself to Lv 192 before next event

lol
Why do this Auto complete have to do with event / break anyway?

glad your basically set forever thats good for you and a small minority of players not everyone is as well of as you and if they cater to your crowd it shuts out new players that will make he game grow and therefore get all the stuff you want as for what you do its up to you and as for the auto comeplete as i said its a huge victory not only to old but new players aswell ill add it makes the game less grindy which makes it more accessible ive been playing since it started i dont see it dying breaks may happen get longer etc but as long as the game is being developed n such it wont die hell look at lov all i needed to quit was losing my login bonus twice i doubt theres many people left and its still up

 

[Xine]

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Coz of bored
I already have all My core team Max
Some of the previous reward like Solano or Horace already 65
And if Your reason , why not Max the other
lel , some of their AW is not that good. Well some say still worth it. But I guess Stray is not My priority

Affection , I already have 100% core female unit
100% core male unit
And still have quite many spare aff/trust item

And what??
Do You expect Me to do IB and Phalanx endlessly?
By this point I might get Myself to Lv 192 before next event

lol
Why do this Auto complete have to do with event / break anyway?

Regardless of what an individual wants, it may not be best for the overall community. Saying you want Nutaku Aigis to catch up to the DMM Aigis is pretty much like saying "I don't want half the units that came out on DMM between our current event and the event DMM Aigis is on" which goes against your endless want for units like Nenya and Noel who btw, are still not in Nutaku. Calling for them to be used as a revival event before they're even used as their main event is asinine and ass-backwards. My current core team is at or near max level, but I'm constantly leveling other units to fill niche roles, and when I run out of those, I level AW materials. I've been running IB and Phalanx2 endlessly since I first cleared both of them, I don't think I've NOT run IB since 3*ing it the first time once outside of running events and dailies.

As a few have mentioned already, if you want all the stuff DMM has, go take the 5 minutes required to change settings on your computer and browser and go play DMM. Its not hard, saying you don't want to bother with that is just pure laziness.

 

[Larcx]

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glad your basically set forever thats good for you and a small minority of players not everyone is as well of as you and if they cater to your crowd it shuts out new players that will make he game grow and therefore get all the stuff you want as for what you do its up to you and as for the auto comeplete as i said its a huge victory not only to old but new players aswell ill add it makes the game less grindy which makes it more accessible ive been playing since it started i dont see it dying breaks may happen get longer etc but as long as the game is being developed n such it wont die hell look at lov all i needed to quit was losing my login bonus twice i doubt theres many people left and its still up

Oh really?
Shut new player?
Then why don't you play the JP ver
Can You still get perfect Solano / Horace / Len for now?

In the end those player is left behind , and that is fact. whether You like it or not
It's whether they want to still far left behind / they will stand up and getting more unit from now on

 

[Nirhael]

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glad your basically set forever thats good for you and a small minority of players not everyone is as well of as you and if they cater to your crowd it shuts out new players that will make he game grow and therefore get all the stuff you want as for what you do its up to you and as for the auto comeplete as i said its a huge victory not only to old but new players aswell ill add it makes the game less grindy which makes it more accessible ive been playing since it started i dont see it dying breaks may happen get longer etc but as long as the game is being developed n such it wont die hell look at lov all i needed to quit was losing my login bonus twice i doubt theres many people left and its still up

Well, the DMM version is pretty much catering to the minority crowd you're talking about, we get constant Events and I can't even remember any real breaks we've had. The game still grows and is able to fight with Kantai Collection for #1 spot and is always #1 on the adult side of DMM.

Auto-complete helps players and is useful, that's a fact, but at the same time it also involves you a lot less with the game, all you do is spam a few clicks and you're done for the day. That's not my idea of fun and I don't think I'd keep playing just to do that, it greatly lessens a player's attachment to the game.

One other reason why DMM has such good growth is that we get handed out SCs like candy over there, minor bug that affects a handful of users? Everyone gets a Sacred Crystal. Major bug that affected a tiny amount of people? Everyone gets a freaking Time Fairy in addition to refunds for the affected people. "Long" break due to cheat issues? 60 SCs for everyone(we got nothing at all over here and it took a lot longer before our Events started rolling again).

Having multiple Events at the same time also forces people to spend SCs or miss out on the rewards, they also need to balance that with keeping their teams up to date while Events keep flowing, which means more SCs spent on recharging Charisma and Stamina.

As it's been already stated, a lot of Nutaku players don't have anything at all to do anymore and can just steamroll over Events without spending anything. That means all the small-time SC buyers don't need to buy anything to get Event units, so their only real source of income is Premium rolls. But even that is practically non-existent since new units are intrinsically linked with Events, like this week's spotlight units: Nothing new, very low interest from whales.

 

[razisgosu]

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Nirhael said it well. If the devs don't step up and start treating English Aigis better, there's no point to invest in it. Why reward developers who treat consumers like second hand trash?

Get us those missing units, get us those missed events, give us the same rewards Japan got for their events, etc.

 

[Larcx]

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Regardless of what an individual wants, it may not be best for the overall community. Saying you want Nutaku Aigis to catch up to the DMM Aigis is pretty much like saying "I don't want half the units that came out on DMM between our current event and the event DMM Aigis is on" which goes against your endless want for units like Nenya and Noel who btw, are still not in Nutaku. Calling for them to be used as a revival event before they're even used as their main event is asinine and ass-backwards. My current core team is at or near max level, but I'm constantly leveling other units to fill niche roles, and when I run out of those, I level AW materials. I've been running IB and Phalanx2 endlessly since I first cleared both of them, I don't think I've NOT run IB since 3*ing it the first time once outside of running events and dailies.

As a few have mentioned already, if you want all the stuff DMM has, go take the 5 minutes required to change settings on your computer and browser and go play DMM. Its not hard, saying you don't want to bother with that is just pure laziness.

Then for all of that
Why not give us Yurina event?
That will not ruin it too much of Your half skipped unit problem

Or atleast try to amuse us by giving 1,5X Event
Is that will ruin the game too???

Or even maybe , do us some revival
Either Anya / Aria is fine I think

Or , change that TP unit

Is one of those small change is really HARD to do?

Or if they do really care , give us free 10-30 SC
Atleast JP player have 60 SC when they have break

But what do we get here?

NOTHING!!

And Your saying , go to DMM instead
Why do they even bother created Nutaku Aigis anyway , if they in the end
Go to DMM blablabla yadayada to get all available unit

lol

 

[Nirhael]

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And Your saying , go to DMM instead
Why do they even bother created Nutaku Aigis anyway , if they in the end
Go to DMM blablabla yadayada to get all available unit

lol

Nutaku version's just a trap to lure people towards the game and make them migrate to DMM.

 

[khawk016]

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Oh really?
Shut new player?
Then why don't you play the JP ver
Can You still get perfect Solano / Horace / Len for now?

In the end those player is left behind , and that is fact. whether You like it or not
It's whether they want to still far left behind / they will stand up and getting more unit from now on

i started at the begining of this games life and have all the units stated and almost immediately jumped to jap side and now play both daily cause i like to get new stuff while having all the h side of things decensored im not saying no one will be left behind ever i know some will and i agree it sucks to be them but just jumping 10 20 events to catch up cause the elite are bored is just stupid and would kill the game off for sure no doubt in my mind also the 1.5 events are again a new thing they been doing started in 2015 so not likely

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the auto complete thing i agree its got its ups n downs but its there you by no means need to use it

i think the sc thing is something that will stay on there side i think i dont know but there very grateful to there huge faithful playerbase so they dont mind shelling out a few sc cause they feel like it

they handled the launch of alot of games poorly in my opinion they should have hashed more stuff out prior to releasing the game period i think if they did we wouldnt have these crazy content cuts (you cant tell me having one of the best healers out there cut isnt crazy) or these waits cause either way theres problems now so whatever happens i spent some for a blk karma no regrets whatsoever if it falls through i got jap to play

snip

well said exactly what i wanted to say but your better with words thank you

 

[Lafate]

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Wait are people talking about skipping events again? Didn't we have the discussion when it was happening and event the vet players were like... nope not having it give us our X now... then they had to go back and give it to us?

Hell the original plan for our Aigis was to skip "unnecessary events" to catch DMM and simple have our events be a less difficult version of there because we didn't have the same amount of time to level things as they have. They had to change that because no one liked the idea of a unit they wanted being skipped.

Hell these breaks are probably happening again because the damn minority that started complain about not having breaks to stock up on fairies and shit...

sigh...

EDIT: Hell this week I decided I was going to waste stamina and go three star all of the challenge maps outside of War of Magic. Can't wait for the Witch changes so I can three star that as well... or AW whichever comes first...

 

[Ertx]

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Wait are people talking about skipping events again? Didn't we have the discussion when it was happening and event the vet players were like... nope not having it give us our X now... then they had to go back and give it to us?

Hell the original plan for our Aigis was to skip "unnecessary events" to catch DMM and simple have our events be a less difficult version of there because we didn't have the same amount of time to level things as they have. They had to change that because no one liked the idea of a unit they wanted being skipped.

Hell these breaks are probably happening again because the damn minority that started complain about not having breaks to stock up on fairies and shit...

sigh...

EDIT: Hell this week I decided I was going to waste stamina and go three star all of the challenge maps outside of War of Magic. Can't wait for the Witch changes so I can three star that as well... or AW whichever comes first...

I dunno about that. Seems more likely that breaks are happening because they're happening on DMM as well. Since Rika's event they've had a gold rush and a 1.5x drop 'event'. I imagine that when their schedule gets back on track, ours will follow.

And yeah, skipping events just to catch up to DMM shouldn't and won't happen. There's really no upside to doing it. We will still get the units, eventually, and we'll get a majority of the units between now and then, in their intended events. We also have the benefit of being able to know ahead of time which units are worth maxing and which are only worth getting for completion and the scenes, which is a huge bonus for free players.

TL;DR: Not going to catch up to JP's aigis, stop asking for it to happen

 

[fallendrgmaster]

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No ones asking for event skips, we were TOLD it was the japanese developers plan from the start, it is why they keep skipping events.

Then we raise a fuss about the skipped event, Nordland lets the developers know we wanted X event and then the developers give it to us.

Then they go back to which ever random event they decided we need next.

Wash Rinse Repeat.

That is why our schedule has been so weird. The Japanese developers have some plan in mind but when we request an event enough they will give it to us most cases.

 

[Ertx]

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No ones asking for event skips, we were TOLD it was the japanese developers plan from the start, it is why they keep skipping events.

Then we raise a fuss about the skipped event, Nordland lets the developers know we wanted X event and then the developers give it to us.

Then they go back to which ever random event they decided we need next.

Wash Rinse Repeat.

That is why our schedule has been so weird. The Japanese developers have some plan in mind but when we request an event enough they will give it to us most cases.

That was their original intention. It's been said to us that their intentions have since changed, as of Rowanna's event. That's why we've been getting almost every event now, whereas before we would skip months at a time.

Only exceptions are the ones with character concerns and Yurina's for some reason.

 

[Shyao]

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Wait are people talking about skipping events again? Didn't we have the discussion when it was happening and event the vet players were like... nope not having it give us our X now... then they had to go back and give it to us?

Hell the original plan for our Aigis was to skip "unnecessary events" to catch DMM and simple have our events be a less difficult version of there because we didn't have the same amount of time to level things as they have. They had to change that because no one liked the idea of a unit they wanted being skipped.

Hell these breaks are probably happening again because the damn minority that started complain about not having breaks to stock up on fairies and shit...

sigh...

EDIT: Hell this week I decided I was going to waste stamina and go three star all of the challenge maps outside of War of Magic. Can't wait for the Witch changes so I can three star that as well... or AW whichever comes first...

It's the not having breaks that does lead to a problem about games with constant events; burnout. After playing for the last several months of near constant events, I'm completely burnt out on the game. I've been spending each and every single day on Aigis until halfway through the Gold Rush. I got so mentally exhausted of the game that I just stopped playing. I stopped logging in daily and just ignored the game, so I could persue other games, watch shows I've been missing, do hobbies I haven't indulged in because I used to be on Aigis all day every day, at least until my Stamina and Charisma ran out. But even then, I'd pop by every other hour to see if I can get in just one more level or one more run of whatever I was doing.

I no longer have interest in getting every unit, getting up to date on every event, maxing out affection simply because I don't have the time to spend weeks, if not months, doing back to back events and then having the affection grind all my new units. Hell, I haven't even maxed out my current units, how did they expect me to also max out 12-13 more? Hell, I missed my chance at Betty, one of my favorite thieves as far as design goes, and I really don't care.

I've been using the opportunity to play through Lufia: The Legend Returns on my 3DS, play Dead Island and Dragon Ball Xenoverse with friends, and catch up on anime I own but haven't seen yet; like Senran Kagura: Ninja Flash.

 

[Lafate]

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Only exceptions are the ones with character concerns and Yurina's for some reason.

I am still digging around to figure out why Yurina was skipped >.>

 

[nissebrygger]

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Nirhael has it right, high pace of content and rewards work, works in Aigis, works in all other games out there, works for JP players, works for all others.

Not a tricky concept.

There is no purpose to running an lower amount, nada, zippo, just to satisfy some archaic "thats what they got 1 year ago" as the "same" (which is never the same, as we run a lower content setup for "same" ex. "loli") stage.

Simple fact is we run at a too low content clip and our missing units do give people too little to work, grind or min/max on. Especially the people putting in money, which is the lifeblood of the game.

Also, holding back due to some arbitrary self-imposed limit is absurd, The content has been produced & approved, some of it is simply in wait mode (awakenings) as Nutaku has informed us (when the last loli row went boom), and there is no risk of it "running out", JP is a year ahead, there is a TON of content available and waiting.

As for the "no skipping crowd", Simply run multiple events at the same time and for slightly longer, people can get their units, min/max, spend their time/cash/sc/whatever, and game will grow.

And more important, it will grow in the non-freemium segment, and thats what a developer would want, thats where the money comes in, not from the 90% freemiums that may look nice on player count but are in fact not what supports the game (not bashing anyone here, its just how the world works, developers need to be paid too and that money has to come from players, am all for the freemium concept, it works, but someone has to inject cash and that is usually the heavy users ie. the "minority")

Basic point : You'll want to pace players with content so that it OUTSTRIPS the natural regen, not by a huge margin, but with enough that there is always a reason to go all in, to get that extra bonus, thus leading them to use and buy SC. And you want them to compete with each other, see the heavy users "bling" and go oh wow, want that too.

Or in short, you want people well-fed with content, flooded in positive feedback (ie. rewards) when they put in cash, and hooked! (And you never want a situation where the heavy-users aka. the minority that put in the cash saying "oh man, I have nothing to do")

 

[razisgosu]

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Wait are people talking about skipping events again? Didn't we have the discussion when it was happening and event the vet players were like... nope not having it give us our X now... then they had to go back and give it to us?

Hell the original plan for our Aigis was to skip "unnecessary events" to catch DMM and simple have our events be a less difficult version of there because we didn't have the same amount of time to level things as they have. They had to change that because no one liked the idea of a unit they wanted being skipped.

Hell these breaks are probably happening again because the damn minority that started complain about not having breaks to stock up on fairies and shit...

sigh...

EDIT: Hell this week I decided I was going to waste stamina and go three star all of the challenge maps outside of War of Magic. Can't wait for the Witch changes so I can three star that as well... or AW whichever comes first...

People are complaining about the lack of an event because Japan is at least getting something at this time, whereas English Aigis is getting absolutely nothing. It's especially disheartening when there are plenty of events that could be had even if the developers don't want to release new content yet.

Throw in the fact we were not given the bonus SC that Japan was given for gold rush 1 and the fact that this downtime is not being used effectively by the developers, you get players complaining.

Why wasn't this week used to introduce old units that supposedly could be implemented now that Nutaku has figured out whatever they needed to figure out? Why couldn't this break be used to give us awakening? The questions are endless and continues to go back to the fact that English Aigis is treated like second hand garbage.

 

[Larcx]

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Yeah with Your fucking logic
This MWA wouldn't last for another Year
With this kind of pace

People no need to buy SC
They are pampered with constant break
Oh look new unit , next week is a break
Sweet , unit maxed
And then again some people whining oh wait , give us another break! we haven't maxed out our unit yet

And so no people spend SC
Do You think the dev like to eat air?
They need profit
Without profit , why anyone would keep a non profitable game

The Jap side has break but give free SC and EXP 1,5 Gold 1,5 and Drop 1,5
Constant Trading Post rotation
While us?? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!

And for the logic of this unit event will give us trouble without that unit
OK , I understand that
But atleast give us Trading Post unit!! Or 1,5X
Is that will ruin the whole game??!

Oh yes I forgot
This freemium player doing so much for the dev , so much the dev love to pampered the freemium player

Really good job there dev

 

[Ertx]

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Yeah with Your fucking logic
This MWA wouldn't last for another Year
With this kind of pace

People no need to buy SC
They are pampered with constant break
Oh look new unit , next week is a break
Sweet , unit maxed
And then again some people whining oh wait , give us another break! we haven't maxed out our unit yet

And so no people spend SC
Do You think the dev like to eat air?
They need profit
Without profit , why anyone would keep a non profitable game

The Jap side has break but give free SC and EXP 1,5 Gold 1,5 and Drop 1,5
Constant Trading Post rotation
While us?? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!

And for the logic of this unit event will give us trouble without that unit
OK , I understand that
But atleast give us Trading Post unit!! Or 1,5X
Is that will ruin the whole game??!

Oh yes I forgot
This freemium player doing so much for the dev , so much the dev love to pampered the freemium player

Really good job there dev

We've had two breaks in several months of constant events, which were shared breaks with the JP server before and after the gold rush. I feel like you're exaggerating a little bit. As someone who played when there were actually constant breaks, this is nothing.

And keeping free players happy is very important. More players means more exposure, and more exposure means more players. Some of which will inevitably spend money.