(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[Leonhardt]

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Pirate Life G done. Now what to grind? On one hand Pride of Pirates X has really decent loot and on the other, I really need some silver archers. But that 10% though...

Well, for Pride of the Pirates X, the more valuable drops also have pretty low rates that are most likely on par with the rates of their respective dailies on H, so that would be a risk as well since the majority of your drops may be platinum fairies. As for the silver archers, yes it's around a 10% drop rate, but you can get in twice as many runs of Fierce Island Battle when compared to Pride X, so that's something to note as well.

Another thing to note is that since Awakening is probably right around the corner it may be worth it to farm up a few pirates if you don't have any since awakening archers requires a pirate, whether CCed silver or non-CCed gold.

And since we're looking towards the future, an upcoming, if not the next, event will be Claudia's. Her event also has a pretty good spread of silvers, although farming them would be detrimental to farming fangs for Claudia. As for those, her event will have a map with a Healer drop, a map that drops an archer and soldier, a map with a rogue, a map with a witch and a mage, and a map with a bandit and a pirate, assuming the drops aren't altered that is. So, if one doesn't mind not aiming for a perfect Claudia or has perfected her and has some spare time for the event left, there's a fairly broad array of silvers to attempt to farm.

 

[Daverost]

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I farmed Fierce Island Battle since day 1 of event and still got 0 Laurens from it. RNG is merciless when it comes to silvers for me, I so wish they would implement "guaranteed first drop" like on DMM.

I exclusively farmed the map that dropped Harissa during Azami's event and couldn't get a single drop.

This time I'm trying to get pirates and while I haven't been doing it exclusively (because the charisma cost is offset to the stamina cost), I've only gotten one Giovanni from that map and no Verottes.

Whatever I need from the event never wants to drop.

Then there's the matter of the latter maps having some silvers I want but being busted with the increased difficulty of the fish men...

a map with a witch and a mage

How viable is this one for fang farming? Because I really need to farm this one.

 

[Leonhardt]

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How viable is this one for fang farming? Because I really need to farm this one.

It's a 40/4 map with a total of 8 fang drops. Two 1x Fang drops and Two 3x Fang drops, so before taking drop rates into account it's at 5 CHA and .5 STA per Fang.

Now let's compare this to the Penultimate map with the Bandit and Pirate drop that has a total of 11 fang drops via Two 3x drops and One 5x drop at 50/5. Before drop rates, this comes out to 4.54 CHA and .45 STA per Fang. Whereas the final map has a total of 16 fangs via Two 1x drops, Three 3x drops, and one 5x drop at 70/7. Before drop rates, this is equal to 4.38 CHA and .44 STA per fang.

So overall, the map that drops Calliope and Pallis is slightly more inefficient before drop rates come into play, but I'm not entirely certain what the drop rates are, so it may be somewhat more inefficient. So, it could be pretty decent to farm assuming the drop rates aren't horrendous, which they hopefully aren't since it is a map in what would be the second phase on DMM.

 

[Daverost]

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That's... good-ish. Hopefully someone will be able to dig up the drop rates from the JP info pool between now and then.

Though at this rate I'm going to need to farm pirates off the penultimate map anyway.

 

[Lafate]

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... What are these map names... I'll look and see if there are any drop reports... Though going off the past the 70/7 map is likely to have the 5x or two 3x drops be 100%

 

[The Overgoat]

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Well, I have one silver lvl1, CC'd pirate and a non-CC'd silver pirate. Archers though, none. The only two silver archers I have I actually use and I have no duplicates whatsoever. And seeing that a CC'd Spica alone will cost me 4 silvers. Plus I'd really like to CC Ada, since she seems to be a very reliable rouge, but she also needs an archer. So that's five archers compared to the zero I have. Okay, granted, I have 2 extra Stray, so I can AW Spica, but still.

 

[Leonhardt]

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That's... good-ish. Hopefully someone will be able to dig up the drop rates from the JP info pool between now and then.

Though at this rate I'm going to need to farm pirates off the penultimate map anyway.

... What are these map names... I'll look and see if there are any drop reports... Though going off the past the 70/7 map is likely to have the 5x or two 3x drops be 100%

Out of class and had a little time to search around. We're in luck, I found some of the drop data in an old post by Petite:

Water Dragon (This is the Pallis and Calliope Map):
Dragon Fangs Per Stamina: 1.625; Per Charisma: 0.1625; Per Day: (Min: 36; Max: 48; Average: 39)

Black Dragon (Penultimate with Bandit and Pirate):
Dragon Fangs Per Stamina: 1.72; Per Charisma: 0.172; Per Day: (Min: 24; Max: 60; Average: 41.28)

Desperate (Final):
Dragon Fangs Per Stamina: 1.771; Per Charisma: 0.177; Per Day: (Min: 24; Max: 54.857; Average: 42.514.)

With those drop rates, there's little difference between the last three maps on average. So, whichever maps drop the silvers you need can be run pretty safely after getting the completion reward for the last map, out of those maps anyways.

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Well, I have one silver lvl1, CC'd pirate and a non-CC'd silver pirate. Archers though, none. The only two silver archers I have I actually use and I have no duplicates whatsoever. And seeing that a CC'd Spica alone will cost me 4 silvers. Plus I'd really like to CC Ada, since she seems to be a very reliable rouge, but she also needs an archer. So that's five archers compared to the zero I have. Okay, granted, I have 2 extra Stray, so I can AW Spica, but still.

Yeah, picking up archers would be better for you at the moment. Especially since you can pick up pirates during Claudia's event and likely do no damage to your fang farming.

 

[Trollwut]

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... What are these map names... I'll look and see if there are any drop reports... Though going off the past the 70/7 map is likely to have the 5x or two 3x drops be 100%

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Edit: Damn Ninja'd

 

[Lafate]

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Looks like running Black Dragon (50/5) the so called penultimate would be the best.... Though I do have to wonder if Desperate desperate would give that much of an SC difference on average.

 

[Fayne]

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Looks like running Black Dragon (50/5) the so called penultimate would be the best.... Though I do have to wonder if Desperate desperate would give that much of an SC difference on average.

All calculations were done for 17 maximum stamina and 418 max charisma. The neccessary stamina and charisma to 3 star every mission once were ignored. The values are always rounded to the higher number and shown as: Sum of SC for stamina and charisma (SC for Stamina/SC for charisma).

Water Dragon:
Minimum SC: 34 (30/4)
Average SC: 42 (36/6)
Maximum SC: 46 (39/7)


Black Dragon:
Minimum SC: 20 (20/0)
Average SC: 35 (31/4)
Maximum SC: 87 (19/68)


Desperate:
Minimum SC: 18 (18/0)
Average SC: 34 (30/4)
Maximum SC: 87 (19/68)

Feel free to

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and do the calculations for your own maximum stamina and charisma costs.

 

[Ertx]

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Since you guys are speculating so much about Claudia*'s event, I'm gonna go ahead and assume we'll be skipping around to 3-4 events in the future again. That's normally how it tends to work, anyway.

 

[Lafate]

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1. It is Claudia's event. Charlotte's already happened
2. Claudia's event is next if one were to follow the DMM timeline without skipping or going backward for events that were skipped.

 

[eliont]

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[Nattorei]

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Since you guys are speculating so much about Claudia*'s event, I'm gonna go ahead and assume we'll be skipping around to 3-4 events in the future again. That's normally how it tends to work, anyway.

As Lafate said. My take on this: get wrecked. Call your pessimism bro.

However, the reality of the situation is that we don't know what is going to happen. We've got Valentine's and an anniversary coming up. What I think is likely is that we get a break week introducing awakening (maybe with 1.5x orb drops to help start). Regardless of that, when it comes to real events, there is the possibility we skip Claudia for Momiji like we skipped Beatrice for Azami. They like breaking the two-week events with one-week events in between.

 

[razisgosu]

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I think you should check your optimism when there's really little historical reason to be optimistic. I sincerely doubt we're going to get a Valentine's event on top of the next regular event.

 

[Nattorei]

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I think you should check your optimism when there's really little historical reason to be optimistic. I sincerely doubt we're going to get a Valentine's event on top of the next regular event.

We went a two whole months without breaks when everything before was either an average of two weeks between every event or the six-week fiasco.

I doubt we're getting anything Valentine's related at all or any two events at once. I just know we're getting something. And if it is awakening, I doubt anyone will actually want a concurrent event.

And there is a difference between optimism, pessimism, and "oh x event is being talked about, time to skip 3-4 events again."

 

[Larcx]

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In the 5 month I played Nutaku I only spent few hundred $
In next 2 day , will be full first month I played DMM Aigis
And the money I spent on DMM is equal to Nutaku side
I say might be twice , since I bought Aigis Light Novel and Aigis Character Profile Book. Cost around 5000-5200 Yen. But I pay 11K Yen for imported goods T_T
Since I want those Sapphire Rarity unit
Specially that one from ACPB , she is a CHEAT!!! >.>

With nonstop event , I manage to AW 2 units
Actually I have enough resource to AW another 5-8 unit except fodder
I very lack Pirate-HA-Healer-Archer , hope for their appearance in next event
I am very sure when AW come to Nutaku , people who recently play will weep a lot
Even though with BREAK , lol
But for veteran people who already have many 30CC1 fodder , 3 Mil Gold , 30 PA + fairies and 1000 DC+will walk like a BOSS

Damn... AW is very great
But the enemies is not Your usual Goblins either

Even with AW in Nutaku
I can pretty much say that it is not that much of a challenge
Since You will have atleast 1 week break per month
And no intertwined event

I can only say that , enjoy the break for now
Just pray for that You guys will have the same excitement as DMM player have
Wish You people Luck~

 

[Ertx]

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As Lafate said. My take on this: get wrecked. Call your pessimism bro.

However, the reality of the situation is that we don't know what is going to happen. We've got Valentine's and an anniversary coming up. What I think is likely is that we get a break week introducing awakening (maybe with 1.5x orb drops to help start). Regardless of that, when it comes to real events, there is the possibility we skip Claudia for Momiji like we skipped Beatrice for Azami. They like breaking the two-week events with one-week events in between.

How's what I said pessimism? I don't personally care about skipping around events, as long as we get events.

It just usually tends to happen that way. We speculate about the next event and then they introduce one completely out of left field.

 

[nissebrygger]

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Game's be running for a year,

- its pace is slow (60% of original)
- content-lite (greenlight/loli things, no revivals, no multiple events)
- uneven (breaks, no breaks, events jumps, event backtracking, and any combination thereof)

Noting that is the case and making a call based on it is not pessimism, its simply the way the game has been running.

Anyways, the problems are entirely self-created by the team managing the Nutaku side (be it the dev or nutaku) by neither following the design, pace or success track the original Aigis blazed and continue to blaze forward.

The silver lining is, that the team can solve the problems at will, from one week to the next, should they choose so or have resources added to them that allows them to do so.

As we already know, most of the loli issue is largly moot (most are greenlit), the pace is totally artificial low (all content exists) and so is the choice which events to drop instead of just running the originals pace and events (originals order will do just fine).

Anniversary will bring something, we know that, Awakenings is a good guess, but unless the other structural issues of this version is fixed too, then there is a fair chance that it will be a temporay boost follow by a - you guessed it - break and little to do with those AW units.

Good or bad, depends on perspective, only thing known is, that it was sure not the way that made Aigis an success originally and that Aigis grown to this or that big player number banners are curiously missing, for some time now, for a game that is #1 or #2 in its original market.

 

[Lafate]

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How's what I said pessimism? I don't personally care about skipping around events, as long as we get events.

It just usually tends to happen that way. We speculate about the next event and then they introduce one completely out of left field.

Oh they just do that to fuck with me... that is why I gave up trying to predict their pattern... took a machine gun... and said fuck it here are the possible next 10 events!

... that way they can't do shit to mess with me...