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(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)


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Aigis story maps are very uneven. The difficulty can suddenly ramp up significantly from one to the next. Most times, there is no choice but to just keep leveling the core units and add affections until they can overcome said map. Occasionally, you can try to circumvent that by using rogues for dodges or assassinations when rushed with an early powerful unit.

In Armor of the Dead, the rush is early and with mostly goblins and two hard hitting armor enemies. A weak heavy armor will get completely destroyed if you attempt to block them both together, as each will deliver almost 500-600 damage per hit to a 0 defense unit. So unless the HA is at least 300 defense or higher there is just no chance to tank that. The best initial deployment for this map is probably a Misha/Elaine/Kerri at the crossroad to farm some UP, Katie 2 spots below, then a rogue (like Cypria) at the spot below valkyrie. Have a healer out after that when possible to cover all 3. Black armor will be on the valkyrie unit first, and depend on when the healer is out, can only take 1 or 2 black armor hits. Withdraw valkyrie before she dies, and let the rogue tank the black armor and activate assassinate skill. Pray for RNG so that the black armor dies before the rogue does. Deploy prince, 2nd healer or mage in the meantime when able. The rest is significantly easier after the initial onslaught is dealt with and the healers, mages and tanks are deployed.

my leanne is 356 def. assassinate isnt ready before the armor appears.. does cypria's become avaiable sooner than the red rogues? maybe i just need to go ape shit leveling my gold healer
 
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Maybe the other issue is affection levels of healers? Honestly healers just aren't very effective until they reach 100% affections. It could take some time but everybody eventually gets there.

Regarding Leanne, even at 356 def, the black armor hits for 585 so that's still 229 per hit. The gray ones hit slightly less but 468-356 = 113 damage per hit. Their attack speed is much faster than healers' so your attack need to be significant enough to overcome that.
 
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my leanne is 356 def. assassinate isnt ready before the armor appears.. does cypria's become avaiable sooner than the red rogues? maybe i just need to go ape shit leveling my gold healer

As a plat rogue she should have skill sooner.
 
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does cypria's become avaiable sooner than the red rogues?

Cypria is a free gift after reaching prince lvl 30. She is plat so skill time is significantly less than a silver rogue. (24.5 sec vs. 54 sec to activate)
 
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That was unexpected... main got quite a problem with The depths of the maze. Well this acc doesn't have so good range units (well got Elizabeth but in this map range is very important).
 
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Still leveling units in preparation for the final map. But based on DMM experience if you could squeeze in a solid soldier on the left side to delay the undeads and last long enough to generate 15-30 UP the rest becomes significantly easier.
 
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Maybe the other issue is affection levels of healers? Honestly healers just aren't very effective until they reach 100% affections. It could take some time but everybody eventually gets there.

Regarding Leanne, even at 356 def, the black armor hits for 585 so that's still 229 per hit. The gray ones hit slightly less but 468-356 = 113 damage per hit. Their attack speed is much faster than healers' so your attack need to be significant enough to overcome that.


+ prince aura + katie CC bonus + her skill.

i think it's just im trying to play too defensive. i've been neglecting to level up my sophie since i hardly use her for actually attacking but im pretty sure she'll fucking destroy the things in short order once i add 20 levels to her.

today i learned: enemies always hit you for 1/10th of their attack score even if your def > their atk
 
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Hey, are the Oni classified as Yokai units? (like does Nagi's 1.3x damage effect them?)
 
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So I can kill the Demon King w/o even blocking him.

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But I don't think I can pull this off in the 100/2 map, though 50/5 version has more HP.
Probably not enough ranged space, and his shadows are gonna mess up the focus.
 
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So I can kill the Demon King w/o even blocking him.

But I don't think I can pull this off in the 100/2 map, though 50/5 version has more HP.
Probably not enough ranged space, and his shadows are gonna mess up the focus.

Couldn't you use ranged melees instead and just kill him before the clones come out? Considering it's you, I would imagine you have Sybilla and other ranged melees.
 
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Couldn't you use ranged melees instead and just kill him before the clones come out? Considering it's you, I would imagine you have Sybilla and other ranged melees.

Sybilla over here is not ranged until we get skill aw iirc
 
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Sybilla over here is not ranged until we get skill aw iirc

Actually Syb does have ranged atk during skill after just AW.
SAW just gets her more atk power and range, at the price of assassination removal.

Couldn't you use ranged melees instead and just kill him before the clones come out? Considering it's you, I would imagine you have Sybilla and other ranged melees.

The thing about dancer burst is that you need units with fast and/or multi hits to maximize the dmg.
Syb hits hard per hit, but doesn't hit that fast nor multi-hits. So the dancer benefit is not as high.

I thought about using three plat/black Ninjas I have, who are weak on their own, but hit fast so dancer works well on them.
But even then, they won't be able to match anything Nanaly's can dish out, which can do like 1500 x 4 per volley.

Guess I will still do some math to see if it's even possible.
 
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The thing about dancer burst is that you need units with fast and/or multi hits to maximize the dmg.
Syb hits hard per hit, but doesn't hit that fast nor multi-hits. So the dancer benefit is not as high.

I thought about using three plat/black Ninjas I have, who are weak on their own, but hit fast so dancer works well on them.
But even then, they won't be able to match anything Nanaly's can dish out, which can do like 1500 x 4 per volley.

Guess I will still do some math to see if it's even possible.

What do you need dancer burst for though? I kill him just fine with 1 Nanaly 1 Spica and Sybilla if I just use karma to tank. Seeing as how you have 2 AW Nanaly's and SEVERAL better units than I do you should have a lot more dps than I do so you could probably finish it during the time stop.
 
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AW FUCK YEAH! 3*'D MY FIRST ASIAN MAP.

And relax guys. I've killed the shadow demon king with my ranged dps too. Well the one on 5 stamina map. He dropped a nice exp armor for me to enjoy.
 

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What do you need dancer burst for though? I kill him just fine with 1 Nanaly 1 Spica and Sybilla if I just use karma to tank. Seeing as how you have 2 AW Nanaly's and SEVERAL better units than I do you should have a lot more dps than I do so you could probably finish it during the time stop.

When I said "pull it off", I mean killing him within 5 seconds of Mikoto stun so he doesn't get to swing his sword even once, like in the GIF.

Ofc I already killed him using many combinations.
But not without having to tank with "something", whether it's invul or high armor.

EDIT: NVM I actually thought of the way. Gonna start work on it. *Evil Laughs*
 
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When I said "pull it off", I mean killing him within 5 seconds of Mikoto stun so he doesn't get to swing his sword even once, like in the GIF.

Ofc I already killed him using many combinations.
But not without having to tank with "something", whether it's invul or high armor.

You can't kill him in 5 seconds? I figured you would've been able to since I imagine you're not running a level 50 Nanaly/Spica like I am. Actually I figured you'd already have two level 99 Nanaly. :p
 
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You can't kill him in 5 seconds? I figured you would've been able to since I imagine you're not running a level 50 Nanaly/Spica like I am. Actually I figured you'd already have two level 99 Nanaly. :p

I do have two Lv99 Nanaly, but the issue is there's no place to put them all in 100/2 map.

Only two ranged spots can reach his Game of the Thrones style chair.
And one of them has to be filled with Mikoto for the time stop.

But I think I have a solution to that now...
 
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Anyone can send me a table with best map for lvling units? Can't find it :\

Edit: Nvm, found it.
 
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AW FUCK YEAH! 3*'D MY FIRST ASIAN MAP.

And relax guys. I've killed the shadow demon king with my ranged dps too. Well the one on 5 stamina map. He dropped a nice exp armor for me to enjoy.

Killing the 5 stam demon king drop a exp armor? Aw shoot, been letting it go.
 
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