(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[khawk016]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

When you spend sacred crystals on the gacha you are signing an unbreakable contract with Goddess Aigis.


Two reasons
For me its because it wouldn't be fair that I spent 1500+ crystals and got handed 10 random black units, where as JoeSchmoe spent 5 - 1500+ crystals and got to choose at least 1 of the 10 black units he has.

And two, Liana compensation would only be the beginning, players would bitch about other shit units they pulled and demand compensation for those "bad rolls" as well.

Ive only ever wanted Mikoto and Liana. I got Mikoto but never Liana, should my 9 black rolls be compensated because they weren't Liana?

If the answer is yes, then what the fucks the point of the gacha system? Let me just buy the shit I want out right please!

yea thats kinda how rng works yes some will not have spent alot to get liana but happened into her but that doesnt mean they shouldnt do something about liana anythings better then nothing there are many options maybe the black ticket isnt the best no one knows what the best solution is cause there really aint one but its up to the devs to decide what is best
people without liana dont get anything you know besides her event eventually and almost certainly a much better version of her that they dont have to roll for

and it would stop at liana some would try to do as you said but would have no ground to stand on to back up what boils down to bad luck cause besides liana there is no other unit thats not meant to be in the gatcha

 

[Tesseract]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

you don't get scammed when you roll Liana from gacha, you get scammed when you spend the sacred crystals on gacha rolls in the first place.
you pulled Liana or any other black unit? great consider your self lucky.
you don't like Liana or that other black unit you got? To bad for you.
When you spend sacred crystals on the gacha you are signing an unbreakable contract with Goddess Aigis.

I mean, not really. That wasn't even Overgoat's original argument. Should all the other event units be in the premium gacha too? And you'd be happy if you were lucky enough to roll them too? What if the game bugs out and you don't even get a unit? Is that still your "unbreakable contract?" Its all about what the devs intend, and what is considered acceptable for the user. Not what you personally consider "lucky" or not.

Two reasons
For me its because it wouldn't be fair that I spent 1500+ crystals and got handed 10 random black units, where as JoeSchmoe spent 5 - 1500+ crystals and got to choose at least 1 of the 10 black units he has.

They wouldn't get to choose.... it would just be a black ticket. They get the same chance to roll any other unit to replace their now useless Liana. The person who originally rolled Liana is still arguably worse off since they wasted all those resources leveling an inferior version of Liana. Even if those players get compensated, the person who didn't roll Liana still got the better deal.

And two, Liana compensation would only be the beginning, players would bitch about other shit units they pulled and demand compensation for those "bad rolls" as well.

That is... ...not an argument relevant to anything anybody is discussing. Also probably straight up not true.

Ive only ever wanted Mikoto and Liana. I got Mikoto but never Liana, should my 9 black rolls be compensated because they weren't Liana?

If the answer is yes, then what the fucks the point of the gacha system? Let me just buy the shit I want out right please!

I'm not even sure who you're talking to at this point. Its not about selecting units you want. Its about event characters vs gacha characters. Either way, people who rolled another black unit INSTEAD OF Liana are the "winners." Because they will end up with that gacha-only black AND fully event-upgraded Liana. The person who rolled gacha Liana ends up with 1 useless liana, and a fully decked out Liana.

Again, I really don't have a personal investment in being "compensated" for a useless Liana since I got her so long ago... but you really can't see it from the perspective of someone whose Black slot gacha roll ends them up with Liana like a month before her event comes out?

 

[Angelic Berserker]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

you really can't see it from the perspective of someone whose Black slot gacha roll ends them up with Liana like a month before her event comes out?

I certainty can because its exactly the same as pulling any other unit in the game and being disappointed.

As for pulling her 1 year, 1 month, or 1 day before her event comes out. sure its not recommended to feed her to the event copy after her event ends for last minute min-maxing but still, that's potentially less grinding that person has to do during her event. And in my opinion, a "shitty" dupe of an event unit is still better than a silver unit.



After comparing the stats of all the healers I can confidently say that anyone who pulled Liana and still wants compensation is ungrateful as fuck.

Id gladly level up and run both a crappy dupe and a full event version of her.

She has the 2nd best stats of all the healers only slightly beaten by a pedobait loli with a gimmicky skill.

all Chydis got on her is magic resistance.

 

[khawk016]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

After comparing the stats of all the healers I can confidently say that anyone who pulled Liana and still wants compensation is ungrateful as fuck.

Id gladly level up and run both a crappy dupe and a full event version of her.

She has the 2nd best stats of all the healers only slightly beaten by a pedobait loli with a gimmicky skill.

all Chydis got on her is magic resistance.

no one said she was a bad unit just that shes bad as a gatcha unit and that if she was removed from the gatcha we would eventually get her free and as a better unit overall compensation is not garunteed as its up to the devs but its definitely not greedy or ungrateful to want composition for getting scammed into paying for a free unit
her skill and overall usefulness is nowhere close to b iris who can basically turn scary physical attackers into nothing with her "gimmicky skill" and with her as a gatcha unit she has to compete with saria aswell who again she doesnt even come close to in terms of usefulness and skill

 

[Ericridge]

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All those guys who side with nutaku on Liana is really weird as fuck to me.

Liana is the first black I pulled, I quit Aigis for several months over it. Three or more if I remember right. Other Gacha blacks I have is Elyse/Diina.

Elyse is at CC80. Diina is at level 1 cuz I already have Bernice/Gellius.

And every time I see Liana mocking me in the unit slot list I get upset.

YOU WERE EXPECTING GOOD CHEAT BLACK, BUT IT WAS ME, LIANA!

And so I decided to kick Liana into my second barracks to reduce the frequency of times I see Nutaku's shame. At this point, its pretty much the only thing I'm really angry at Aigis about.

If Nutaku/Aigis takes the ezroute of doing nothing then it will result in nothing but disappointment from me and badmouthing aigis at every opportunity I can get. I'll just tell my friends to not bother with aigis. Its bad game and move on. And that's missed $$$ opportunity. Alot of my friends likes Hentai+Games and Aigis got both and they're not aware of the game yet. After all why talk to them about shitty game that forces a Liana on me.

 

[alpha10th]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

After comparing the stats of all the healers I can confidently say that anyone who pulled Liana and still wants compensation is ungrateful as fuck.

For the longest time, I've been wondering why you put Liana in the wishlist.
At first, I thought you just liked her character, which is a fair reason and I would have respected that.
That's in the realm of personal taste that I have no right to invade.

But it was the Base Stat? Really??? Seriously??? THAT's what you use to put price on Black class??? A healer class at that!?!?

This is beyond saving so I'll just leave you be.
Can't even imagine how much time and effort it would take to explain why that's the wrong standard to use.

 

[Fayne]

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She has the 2nd best stats of all the healers only slightly beaten by a pedobait loli with a gimmicky skill.

B.Iris? A gimicky skill? Compared to Liana?
lol
I honestly can't think of anything else to reply.

On another (only slightly related) note: B. Iris is not OP bracket because of healing capability. In fact a lot of units are better than her in that regard. Saria for example, a plat healer.

 

[Eab1990]

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Should all the other event units be in the premium gacha too?

You realize this is the same guy who wanted Lavender, FKG's first event girl, to be in the gacha so he could whale for her?

It's the year 2017 and you guys still give him attention.

 

[alpha10th]

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You realize this is the same guy who wanted Lavender, FKG's first event girl, to be in the gacha so he could whale for her?

It's the year 2017 and you guys still give him attention.

I DONT PLAY FKG SO I DIDN"T KNOW

I'm so done with this now.

 

[khawk016]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

i was sure that was someone else as shes a virgin loli

 

[Rawr1125]

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You realize this is the same guy who wanted Lavender, FKG's first event girl, to be in the gacha so he could whale for her?

It's the year 2017 and you guys still give him attention.

No no, I thought he was the guy that goes to every thread and says the game would've been better with pvp, or the game failed because there's no pvp.

 

[Angelic Berserker]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

no one said she was a bad unit just that shes bad as a gatcha unit

Im gonna go ahead and use The OverGoat as a scapegoat and say he said it cus honestly were just going in pointless circles now with this discussion.

and that if she was removed from the gatcha we would eventually get her free and as a better unit overall compensation is not garunteed as its up to the devs but its definitely not greedy or ungrateful to want composition for getting scammed into paying for a free unit

No one is entitled a free unit just because said unit has an event, thats lunacy.
Your not scammed for pulling a black rarity unit out of the gacha, your just lucky. I'm not gonna pretend to be good at probability and ill admit I failed that class but, blacks have a 3% chance to drop + theres 20 or so blacks in the gacha + spotlight blacks are spotlights = pulling a specific black = impossible.

her skill and overall usefulness is nowhere close to b iris who can basically turn scary physical attackers into nothing with her "gimmicky skill"

Yea no shit, thats why I said it was a gimmicky skill.

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For the record, I had legit looked up the stats an hour ago and had no knowledge of them prior.
I value characters based on personalty and looks. Thats why I awakened Conrad first and left Katie at level 1.

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You realize this is the same guy who wanted Lavender, FKG's first event girl, to be in the gacha so he could whale for her?
It's the year 2017 and you guys still give him attention.

How is this relevant to anything?

 

[The Overgoat]

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Im gonna go ahead and use The OverGoat as a scapegoat and say he said it cus honestly were just going in pointless circles now with this discussion.

Except I didn't:

Liana cannot even be a compared to her in terms of usefulness. Here's the thing though: she shouldn't be. Liana is a good unit as far as event units go.

Please don't put words in my mouth just because you are unable to put together an even remotely reasonable or sound argument.

 

[Ericridge]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

B.Iris? A gimicky skill? Compared to Liana?
lol
I honestly can't think of anything else to reply.

On another (only slightly related) note: B. Iris is not OP bracket because of healing capability. In fact a lot of units are better than her in that regard. Saria for example, a plat healer.

Right, Elyse..

when I used her I realized her strength is in the speed of her heal cast and Defense action skill boost. She has allowed Gellius to tank unimaginable things that Gellius would've died without. And Elyse hasn't awakened yet.

And more recently, on the map of Crimson Encirclement.. A single Elyse of mine deployed could keep seven other units healed at full health.

 

[khawk016]

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No one is entitled a free unit just because said unit has an event, thats lunacy.
Your not scammed for pulling a black rarity unit out of the gacha, your just lucky. I'm not gonna pretend to be good at probability and ill admit I failed that class but, blacks have a 3% chance to drop + theres 20 or so blacks in the gacha + spotlight blacks are spotlights = pulling a specific black = impossible.

a free unit is usually made to be weaker then gathca units with few exceptions making a free unit into a gatcha without any modifications to the unit is without question a scam this has nothing to do with anything being "entitled"

 

[Angelic Berserker]

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Please don't put words in my mouth just because you are unable to put together an even remotely reasonable or sound argument.

Ironically I'm the only one who has made any sound arguments, the rest of you are simply saying "I got Liana I'm butthurt give me free black ticket"

Funny that this is how most debates I'm involved in play out.

 

[Ericridge]

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Ironically I'm the only one who has made any sound arguments, the rest of you are simply saying "I got Liana I'm butthurt give me free black ticket"

Funny that this is how most debates I'm involved in play out.

To be fair, I have noticed that you're not the sharpest nail in the shed. You're protected by the power of your wallet nothing else.

I have noticed that you seem to hold yourself in high regard and I couldn't help but mention it to you for once and all. Its your wallet, not you. And your latest posts about Liana do nothing but confirm it to everyone.

 

[The Overgoat]

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Ironically I'm the only one who has made any sound arguments, the rest of you are simply saying "I got Liana I'm butthurt give me free black ticket"

Funny that this is how most debates I'm involved in play out.

This reminds me of the old joke where a guy is driving when he hears a warning on the radio that one madman is going in the wrong direction to which his reaction "One?! Rather all of them!"

 

[JimmyBob100]

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Ironically I'm the only one who has made any sound arguments, the rest of you are simply saying "I got Liana I'm butthurt give me free black ticket"

Funny that this is how most debates I'm involved in play out.

 

[ShinyAfro]

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As i said previously, when her event comes out, We should be able to trade her in for either a random black (They would have to make a new black ticket item for this tho, so you cannot just choose the one you want.), B.Iris (As you would exchange silvers in the TP), or 3-5 Legend summon tickets (Each ticket is just under 25% chance of a black, or so.)