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Regarding Bestiality.
Nonhuman monster fucks heroine even though it shares some human aspects. In the dialogue it's pretty clear it's not human.


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Regarding NTR.
Heroines call out your name as they're being raped, as the protagonist sweats to find them. It is possible to just leave them getting perpetually raped and leave the island.

If we go full semantics here than even some NTR games like Karryn's Prison don't actually count as NTR. NTR is for lover getting stolen.
 

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Alot of things aren't human, but they aren't beasts either. If she was being fucked by a dog or a bear or some shit then yeah i guess. My dude has hands.

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i'm not the biggest NTR fan, infact i don't understand it at all, but i'm not sure what kind of emotion the protagonist is supposed to feel not actually seeing one of his his friends getting fucked by monsters, but again i'm not the expert, i don't play the game for that, i play it so the main character gets raped by monster girls.


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i just remembered that the game is reviewed by people on DLsite and it ranks the most frequently mentioned fetished contained in the work, this is the compiled list for Dreamland --

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Alot of things aren't human, but they aren't beasts either. If she was being fucked by a dog or a bear or some shit then yeah i guess. My dude has hands.

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i'm not the biggest NTR fan, infact i don't understand it at all, but i'm not sure what kind of emotion the protagonist is supposed to feel not actually seeing one of his his friends getting fucked by monsters, but again i'm not the expert, i don't play the game for that, i play it so the main character gets raped by monster girls.


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i just remembered that the game is reviewed by people on DLsite and it ranks the most frequently mentioned fetished contained in the work, this is the compiled list for Dreamland --

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Hmmm... I guess maybe I'm just being oversensitive to those two things. Sorry for all the trouble everyone.

But this game is structured exactly like an NTR game I played (literally for research purposes I'm not into that.) when it comes to how it handled heroines, so I really thought it was going for the same thing. It did sufficiently make me feel like shit when I got one of those scenes after going to bed like once.
 

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Hmmm... I guess maybe I'm just being oversensitive to those two things. Sorry for all the trouble everyone.

But this game is structured exactly like an NTR game I played (literally for research purposes I'm not into that.) when it comes to how it handled heroines, so I really thought it was going for the same thing. It did sufficiently make me feel like shit when I got one of those scenes after going to bed like once.
Though I haven't played a lot yet, given the MC and the 'heroines' are all part of the same adventuring party, they are all empowered by the strongest force in media:
"You are my NAKAMA"
So it would make sense they would hope for rescue/the MC would want to save them.
 
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this game is hot as fuck.
Agreed.
For me it's more the unique artstyle which gives the game a fittingly dreamy atmosphere. The girls being smokin' hot with naturally-proportioned bodies, also helps a lot.
The whole thing feels consistent; jokes are kept few and short, promoting seriousness and realism. It's a well-balanced game, artistically - including both writing and art.

I hope we hear from the devs someday. Few circles have impressed me that much.
PS: ...darn it. So much for my Sunday, I guess :LOL:
 

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Well fuck me, can't decrypt it. Can't play it because it's super fiddly and uses alot of customized stuff.

First: The beastiality tag is gone. Beastiality requires one of the subjects to be an animal, such as a dog, horse or pig. Monsters such as tentacle creatures, oozes or dragons do not qualify.

Second: NTR... from what I'm reading it's intended to toe the line so I understand the confusion. However I'm going to also remove this tag as there aren't any straightforward NTR scenes and the characters weren't involved romantically.
 

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Well fuck me, can't decrypt it. Can't play it because it's super fiddly and uses alot of customized stuff.

First: The beastiality tag is gone. Beastiality requires one of the subjects to be an animal, such as a dog, horse or pig. Monsters such as tentacle creatures, oozes or dragons do not qualify.

Second: NTR... from what I'm reading it's intended to toe the line so I understand the confusion. However I'm going to also remove this tag as there aren't any straightforward NTR scenes and the characters weren't involved romantically.
Oof sorry for wasting your time then.

Agreed.
For me it's more the unique artstyle which gives the game a fittingly dreamy atmosphere. The girls being smokin' hot with naturally-proportioned bodies, also helps a lot.
The whole thing feels consistent; jokes are kept few and short, promoting seriousness and realism. It's a well-balanced game, artistically - including both writing and art.

I hope we hear from the devs someday. Few circles have impressed me that much.
PS: ...darn it. So much for my Sunday, I guess :LOL:
I also think the game is fantastic.

My main issues with the game are twofold.
1) Combat balance is absolutely whack. You can defeat the final boss in two hits, and that's w/o being overleveled.
2) The erotic integration in battle is largely luck based.

All skills are combat related and charm is a joke skill that doesn't do anything.
The game would've been much sexier if succubus enemies attempted grabs more often, or acted in ways to make it hard for you to escape if you got grabbed.

Stuff like having paralyzing strikes so that when you get grabbed your action has a chance of failing until the paralyze state runs out.
Stuff like sneak attacking you while you're battling monster enemies, so that you might not have the resource to deal with their ambush.
Stuff like kissing you to put you in a daze so your next escape action's chance of success is reduced. Honestly the fact that there's only a little kissing in this game is criminal with how the dream demons are characterized.

And if they added skills for the adult element, they could've balanced it in a way that it didn't feel like a crapshoot trying to escape. Right now it's easy to escape since it's easy to keep your corruption low, but you can have super high corruption and still win all the battles in the game so corruption as a stat is literally meaningless. In fact, it's probably better to have it higher than lower since then you're actually playing a porn game.

I will give them this though. They added eroticism in ways I didn't think of. You can get the hardon state from attacking an enemy and her recoil from being attacked, making her breasts bounce and making her look good can give you a hardon. Some enemies will show off their bodies before attacking you which might cause a hardon state.

There's also a lot of art, and the writing during the scenes is really good. The way they reuse animation for the battles is also intelligent and I quite liked it. If this game came out on steam it'd make a lot of money.
 
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There's also a lot of art, and the writing during the scenes is really good. The way they reuse animation for the battles is also intelligent and I quite liked it. If this game came out on steam it'd make a lot of money.
That'd be related to the reason I reacted a bit strongly. Belated apologies if I offended. But some tags are truly unwanted, all the more in a commercial line of thought.
Taking a NTR tag on a game as an example:
- people into NTR will actively ask, or investigate, whether there truly is any before buying. An incorrect tag will make them mush harsher on the game. Or they simply won't buy it (figuratively nor literally).
- some, more numerous others, won't even touch anything labelled NTR with a long stick. That's as many lost customers, period.
(side note: we had an awesome thread for information about that genre: NTR - resources, discussion, development)

Other tags are also unwanted because they would attract unwanted attention, concerns and scrutiny, from the potential reselling platform itself. The persons in charge won't play the game; they'll browse the assets, and when in doubt they might turn to forums, to see what the persons who did play the game say about it. I'd say, the fewer tags the better, not about a large part of the game (20%? 30%? 50%?), when it's about these potentially-offensive-for-the-more-narrow-minded tags.
In other words, that'll result in negative publicity and exposure, no matter how good/innocent the initial intention was.
TL,DR: overtagging is actually doing games a disservice. Wrong tagging, a greater one. Just my personal 2 cents and rule of thumb.

I will give them this though. They added eroticism in ways I didn't think of. You can get the hardon state from attacking an enemy and her recoil from being attacked, making her breasts bounce and making her look good can give you a hardon. Some enemies will show off their bodies before attacking you which might cause a hardon state.
Definitely great features. You get a few surprise! cut-ins that way, some of them as rare as shiny p*kemons. Gotta see 'em all!

I hate how most games suppose MC is a horndog in heat with a 24/7 boner, and doesn't need any seduction or foreplay to at the very least, get him hard and ripe for the taking. That's lazy. Seduction and foreplay are 80% of any good sex - don't cut into that! 🙉
In that regard they indeed did a great job - MC never gets raped dry to the bone, when the girls didn't first go through the trouble of giving him the boner to feed themselves from. This is logical, I approve. Most other games are very lacking there (or only focused on the temptation part). That'd be why I highly value the H-balance here, despite the combat's shortcomings.
 

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That'd be related to the reason I reacted a bit strongly. Belated apologies if I offended. But some tags are truly unwanted, all the more in a commercial line of thought.
Taking a NTR tag on a game as an example:
- people into NTR will actively ask, or investigate, whether there truly is any before buying. An incorrect tag will make them mush harsher on the game. Or they simply won't buy it (figuratively nor literally).
- some, more numerous others, won't even touch anything labelled NTR with a long stick. That's as many lost customers, period.
(side note: we had an awesome thread for information about that genre: NTR - resources, discussion, development)

Other tags are also unwanted because they would attract unwanted attention, concerns and scrutiny, from the potential reselling platform itself. The persons in charge won't play the game; they'll browse the assets, and when in doubt they might turn to forums, to see what the persons who did play the game say about it. I'd say, the fewer tags the better, not about a large part of the game (20%? 30%? 50%?), when it's about these potentially-offensive-for-the-more-narrow-minded tags.
In other words, that'll result in negative publicity and exposure, no matter how good/innocent the initial intention was.
TL,DR: overtagging is actually doing games a disservice. Wrong tagging, a greater one. Just my personal 2 cents and rule of thumb.
Hmm... I think it's worse if a game feels like NTR and it's not tagged it though...

The numerous people who won't touch it, would try it and absolutely ruin the devs credibility with bad reviews and negative messages. This has happened multiple times in other games and usually gets corrected by the addition of the tag. Shit Succubus Affection doesn't have the no reverse or submissive man tags on Dlsite anymore. It technically has no reverse content. When you're getting raped, the MC doesn't just say, fuck this and then rapes them back, he just gets reverse raped. Tag is not there though. Why? Because the devs know what kind of content you'll mostly be experiencing in the game, and it's not No Reverse content.

And hell yeah, if the game was tagged NTR I definitely would not have played it. I won't deny that. Games with even avoidable NTR make me just want to try out other games because I don't want to only enjoy like... 40% of the sexual content or less. It's their prerogative for including that kind of content. This game in my opinion straddled the line, and is absolutely designed like an NTR game in the gameplay department. It even feels like one with the heroines screaming the MCs name when they get raped. By the way you name your MC so they're thinking of your name. While being raped of course. Thankfully the NTR elements (to me anyway) are truly minor and not a majority of the content, and there's A LOT of other content to drown that stuff out.

But sure we gotta stick to direct semantics instead of giving a warning to people who might not like such content.

What you're concerned about is potential customers getting turned off by the tags, which should objectively tell people what kind of content they should expect from the product. Wouldn't it then be up to the consumers to choose whether or not the game with such sexual content whether small or important in number is worth their time?

Definitely great features. You get a few surprise! cut-ins that way, some of them as rare as shiny p*kemons. Gotta see 'em all!

I hate how most games suppose MC is a horndog in heat with a 24/7 boner, and doesn't need any seduction or foreplay to at the very least, get him hard and ripe for the taking. That's lazy. Seduction and foreplay are 80% of any good sex - don't cut into that! 🙉
In that regard they indeed did a great job - MC never gets raped dry to the bone, when the girls didn't first go through the trouble of giving him the boner to feed themselves from. This is logical, I approve. Most other games are very lacking there (or only focused on the temptation part). That'd be why I highly value the H-balance here, despite the combat's shortcomings.
I mean the player is already seduced. They're already horny. They booted up a porn game.

Dreamland is noticeably less erotic than a lot of its contemporaries because of how it slows down the erotic integration. Sex does not happen often in this game at the start, and enemies don't use sex attacks often. In fact, you'll be escaping from their grabs before they even do anything. Even by the end you won't be having too much of it. The sexual content is primarily in unlocking scenes with the NPCs.

Unless you the player put on self-limitations, you will not be experiencing the sexual content in this game through its battles which is a shame, and that's because of how foreplay is important.

The slime enemies are much more likely to put you in sex grabs because they ignore whether you're horny or not before they ride your dick. Their sex attacks are also their temptation attacks.

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BTW: Is this not bestiality? It's the werewolf creature with a tentacle monster.
 
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Oh, the humanity. I give up... I'll try talking some sense into a rock instead.
Other tags are also unwanted because they would attract unwanted attention, concerns and scrutiny [so we should avoid mentioning them when they're less than anecdotic, and/or not clearly depicted, in said game]
This, is bestiality: (with the proper spoilers)
 

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Oh, the humanity. I give up... I'll try talking some sense into a rock instead.

This, is bestiality: (with the proper spoilers)
If a game had 1 male love interest and 9 female, That game is no longer a heterosexual game. Especially if the content is unavoidable.

It's the same to me with other sexual proclivities. If a game is mostly pure love but has 2 or 3 rape scenes out of 30 it should be tagged rape.

I don't think my way of thinking is that extreme. Consumers who write off the entire work based on seeing a tag no matter how small its appearance in the work are responsible if they avoid a game they'd largely like.

Well the girl's getting raped by a werewolf and tentacles in that scene sooo...
 

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Neither of those contstitute beastiality. Beastiality is limited to creatures who's depicted form is a direct representation of a real world animal. Not furries, not creatures who feature parts of animals.
 
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anyone by some chance know where to report to the resistance
It depends how far you're in the story.
Chronologically:
The bar, then the ruined city in the East, then the actual base in the NW.
If you can't report to the guild, your client's probably at the base. It's past the forest, if you haven't got the 2nd warp item yet.
how use basement key`s in Euroe`s castle? can`t do this.
Search the first floor, then the basement. You might have to defeat the boss upstairs first, I'm not sure.
You might have to use the Japanese version. The version here breaks a whole lot of stuff.
 

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Hello,
Does anyone know how to get the true ending (and where is the new dungeon)?
(i didn't manage to finish the quest : Missing In Thyrios 4, find mr.Glen, anyone manage to find him?)
 
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@Zana

Oh, I just wanted to improve the translation that you worked on, in a simple way.

MTL fucks up the formatting of the names, which can be solved with a simple find and replace in translator++

If you open up the project in translator ++
open up find and replace with ctrl+f and go to find and replace, then make sure regexp is checked you can find all names and change them with this regular expression.

Find this:
Code:
\[([A-Za-z_ ]*)\]
Replace this:
Code:
<$1>
It'll replace all the names that are in brackets and keep the formatting for all instances of the names. I don't know if you're still a user that visits the forum, but it'll improve the quality of the translation significantly.
 

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worst thing about this game translation, it messes up with the choice inputs so its down right locks you out of choices and interaction. This results in quest triggers and dialogue being unusable and as such you are soft locked. Anyone have a workaround.
 

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worst thing about this game translation, it messes up with the choice inputs so its down right locks you out of choices and interaction. This results in quest triggers and dialogue being unusable and as such you are soft locked. Anyone have a workaround.
if you can transfer your saves you could try and put your saves in non translated ver of the game do the part that soft locks save right after and go back to translated ver after that if transfering your save from translated to original to translated works you can try that i know some games this does not work. that the only thing i can think of or ask for a save right after the part that soft locks you.
 
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