Ok, i! Someone explain to me! This game give the enemies plot armor?! I'm fighting against the "Lookout Guard" or "Thug Ryuujin" I considered myself to be on resonable level when i was facing him, but he defated me but i was considerating because i was not strong enough, so tried more three times and overgrindid to level 42! Still not enough, so i just turned on the Cheat code mode and i got level 99 and faced of this motherfucker! Guess what? The battle never ends because i was regenerating thanks to the monster core that regenerates HP and the fucker won't got down! Can someone please tell me! This game, it really gives this sort of "Plot Armor" for the villains? He goes with that BS? Is that so? Because if he does that i'm sorry is not because of the NTR, but that is an giant flaw! How an enemy is invencible because the plot most move on! How does not make any sense!? I mean on NTRPG2 Ragnas had his BS behind everyone's back and the protagonist cound't fight him, not because he dind't tried, but is because Ragnas was really in other level of "existance" but even so! The game was not about overcoming any trials to stop Ragnas for doing what he was doing, it was about you being powerless and watch the hell happening in your face! But this game give you resources! RESOURCES! Resources to overcome these trials! I'm sorry i am pissed off! Again is not because the girl was being raped i really cound't give two shits about the pink haired girl and blue haired girl being raped, what annoyed me was the fact that the motherfucker was being protected because the fucking plot asked for being protected! How is that an good thing? How is that an fair thing in the script?! I want to lose an fucking battle because i was not prepared to face the battle! Not because the game "Wants me to lose it!" Argh!!! Sorry i need to discharge this stupidity and share with you guys, this is so stupid i don't even know express anymore...
To be fair the NTR on this game was no engaging at least to me. I was willing to go down and suffer but the plot armor moment killed me, because it was not one time, NO it was 15 times (At first i was thinking that the had an bug so i downloaded TWO TIMES! I don't even used the translation patch and still going with the bullshit!) i felt like, ok this is stupid i have the means i am not weak anymore why in the fuck i can't defeat this son of an bitch? In an good NTR the explanation for why the protagonist is always logical! Like for example: The protagonist is always weak and cannot fight against it, or the classic, where they are!? From where they are sending me this videos (to be fair with the internet and with the technology today i could probaly track my Girlfriend cellphone or even check where they made this video etc, etc! Too many tools to basic excuses i say)
My point IS! The problem to me was the fact that, ok i was going to be Ntred one way or other (all those three girls were bitches ready to go to begin with it but anyways) but the stupid trial and error with the plot armor really pissed me the fuck off...
I had an absolute blast with this game. I loved how he turned from a pathetic loser to basically a god of destruction. Are there any similar games out there?
litte sister get fucked, his lover get fucked and for the whole fucking game, the MC get only one H scene with the wicked king's dragon, feel extremely bad for him.
i want to send my "FUCK YOU" to the author
p/s:sorry, really feel hatred when playing this game, jeez, never play it again.
litte sister get fucked, his lover get fucked and for the whole fucking game, the MC get only one H scene with the wicked king's dragon, feel extremely bad for him.
i want to send my "FUCK YOU" to the author
litte sister get fucked, his lover get fucked and for the whole fucking game, the MC get only one H scene with the wicked king's dragon, feel extremely bad for him.
i want to send my "FUCK YOU" to the author
p/s:sorry, really feel hatred when playing this game, jeez, never play it again.
i thought it was like getting stronger then he can get them back, but shit follow by shit, right after i'd killed Lotia , i deleted the game, lol , what she talk was so fucking nonsense, and i'm full of hatred
i thought it was like getting stronger then he can get them back, but shit follow by shit, right after i'd killed Lotia , i deleted the game, lol , what she talk was so fucking nonsense, and i'm full of hatred
He's powerless and the women around him are all super powerful gods chosen people so he feels emasculated by that. Then he watches a priest hes friends with get raped, listens to his sister get gangraped, then listens to the girl he loves get raped. Meanwhile all day he's shoveling shit and becomes a bitch for the super power hero guy whos fucking the girl he loves.
Long time lurker here, but I felt I had to post as this game was just that amazing.
The story and characters were well made and drew out all kinds of emotions for me.
I wonder if I'm the only one who empathized with Lotia the most. She was a tragic heroine without any good options to take. I don't know if it's because I'm female, but I wish we could have played from her perspective. I won't say Imos deserved all the suffering he faced... but I didn't feel any sympathy for him. He struck me as wishy/washy, indecisive, and lazy. Growing up in his village, he didn't build any skills. The world was filled with dangerous monsters and a wicked king. He wants to protect his girls/act manly... but never put any training or effort into becoming strong.
He 'willingly' became a hostage/tool for Variges to use and break the other heroines... I don't know how Imos could expect anything different to happen by following the girls.
Lotia falling for Variges at the end didn't feel that wrong for me. Yeah he was scum... but he was putting plenty of effort into his goal. Breaking Lotia's will isn't a noble goal, but he did work hard on it. Although seeing her friends being treated terribly must have been torture... when balanced against the fate of the world, I don't believe she made a bad choice. Since everyone was certain that Variges fighting was the best chance at defeating the wicked king/monster hoards.
Long time lurker here, but I felt I had to post as this game was just that amazing.
The story and characters were well made and drew out all kinds of emotions for me.
I wonder if I'm the only one who empathized with Lotia the most. She was a tragic heroine without any good options to take. I don't know if it's because I'm female, but I wish we could have played from her perspective. I won't say Imos deserved all the suffering he faced... but I didn't feel any sympathy for him. He struck me as wishy/washy, indecisive, and lazy. Growing up in his village, he didn't build any skills. The world was filled with dangerous monsters and a wicked king. He wants to protect his girls/act manly... but never put any training or effort into becoming strong.
He 'willingly' became a hostage/tool for Variges to use and break the other heroines... I don't know how Imos could expect anything different to happen by following the girls.
Lotia falling for Variges at the end didn't feel that wrong for me. Yeah he was scum... but he was putting plenty of effort into his goal. Breaking Lotia's will isn't a noble goal, but he did work hard on it. Although seeing her friends being treated terribly must have been torture... when balanced against the fate of the world, I don't believe she made a bad choice. Since everyone was certain that Variges fighting was the best chance at defeating the wicked king/monster hoards.
You're kidding right? No matter how much effort Imos put, he's surrounded by gods. How do you think he would fare? Lotia is a hypocrite. All that talk in the end is garbage since deep inside she did like Variges and only using Imos as a scapegoat for her guilt.
The Ryuujin (Dragon Gods) who the protags thought were protectors of the world were just all manipulating them and were the real cause of the villains taking away and raping the women of Imos' life. It was actually the Wicked King/Dragon who wants to break the cycle of hatred and suffering.
You're kidding right? No matter how much effort Imos put, he's surrounded by gods. How do you think he would fare? Lotia is a hypocrite. All that talk in the end is garbage since deep inside she did like Variges and only using Imos as a scapegoat for her guilt.
The priestess wasn't a ryuujin, but she had some magic abilities which couldn't be ignored. Imos' sister also didn't have any godly powers, but she was more useful than him... although being a genius in alchemy might be counted as a god-blessed/birth talent.
I think early in the game, it was mentioned there were mercenaries/adventurers in the world that weren't ryuujins too. And it's not like fighting skills are the only that exist in the world. He could have been a farmer useful to the village... or maybe taken up carpentry or blacksmithing... Those paths may not have given Imos the power to fight against monsters or ryuujin... but it would have showed that he had some ambition. Instead Imos seemed content to be a talentless herb picker working for his sister. If there was no village attack, Imos would likely have lived out his life like that.
As for Lotia at the end... yeah, she was broken.
After living more than a year in Variges 'care', I'd be more surprised if she could still hold on to her original pure ideals. Was there anyone around her to serve as emotional support? To help her endure the pressure of wanting to save the world/protect her friends? It certainly wasn't Imos. In the beginning, if Lotia was openly hostile to Variges, he could have easily slaughtered the villagers and Imos. She was also convinced that, without Variges, humans might not be able to beat the monsters/wicked king. If she slays Variges, she becomes a traitor to humanity. Like that she was trapped and broken.
I totally agree with you that, at the end, she just used Imos as a scapegoat for her guilt. That is why I feel she is a tragic heroine with a tragic end.
Just wanted to say thanks for posting and enjoying the game. It always makes me feel a little less like I wasted my time translating everything when people say that.
Sometimes I worry if my translation portrayed some characters too negatively, but it's good to know at least someone has some sympathy for them.
You're kidding right? No matter how much effort Imos put, he's surrounded by gods. How do you think he would fare? Lotia is a hypocrite. All that talk in the end is garbage since deep inside she did like Variges and only using Imos as a scapegoat for her guilt.
I'd have to agree with this. Imos does try, it's evident at the beginning of the game. He tries to be strong and useful, but he's just so overshadowed by everyone around him that he looks useless. He tried to become a Ryuujin too actually it was mentioned at some point in the story, but he failed probably because he wasn't strong enough. Even if he did train his entire life he wouldn't be as strong as a Ryuujin. That example is proven by the sister/nun, they were both talented but easily overpowered.
But I do think that Lotia liking Variges was a situation where she developed a sort of Stockholm Syndrome. She was surrounded by thugs and rapists and Imos disappears for an entire year, and her friends aren't there for her either. Variges uses this and is nice to her so she develops feelings for him eventually, because at that point it looked like he was the only one that cared for her. I think she honestly meant what she said towards the end, where she says she did it for Imos's happiness. The city fills her head with all these ideas that Imos could never be happy being with her because she's a Ryuujin and he's just a normal person so he'd always feel inferior, and all those setups that make Imos look bad it probably made her think it was all true. She came to the conclusion that Imos could find happiness without her, and she could get rid of all the monsters in the world which also pose a threat to Imos.
It's too bad she was unaware at all the literal shit Imos went through, they should have just talked it out.
That is one scenario that is very rare in HRPG/Eroge - it is much harder it seems for the Japanese culture to embrace "talking it out" between a man and a woman...
You're kidding right? No matter how much effort Imos put, he's surrounded by gods. How do you think he would fare? Lotia is a hypocrite. All that talk in the end is garbage since deep inside she did like Variges and only using Imos as a scapegoat for her guilt.
