ACT Enty Fantia [Zell23] 『シロノヤカタ』/ Shiro no Yakata

[super_slicer]

That aside, what's the point of adding futa characters in a game like this if it's not futa on male. You just want to see some futa dick flopping about while the mc rails her?

In a male-sub game? Pretty much.

Waste of good futanari to spend it on male-sub.

 

[Serifyn]

i'm not sure how it wouldn't be futa on male since its a strictly reverse rape / femdom setting. the protagonist isn't trying to have sex, hes trying to escape. whats the point of having futa on enemies if the protag isn't getting fucked by it.

I'd like to add that technically if you are getting boned by a female with a dick it isn't gay since it's not another dude. Its like pegging with biologically functional equipment. Its def not for everyone, but it absolutely fits in a game with a male sub, i can understand why it'd be optional tho, some people just don't want to get their anus forcefully violated, though i don't think it can be gay if you aren't attracted to men. to each their own i say.

 

[TheUnsaid]

>Futa on male
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That aside, what's the point of adding futa characters in a game like this if it's not futa on male. You just want to see some futa dick flopping about while the mc rails her?

I'd say they're bi because the thought of their partner having a penis isn't a turn-off.
Doesn't negate their interest in women.

Regarding adding futa characters in the game:

Yeah. It seems like male-receiving is not to his tastes at all which makes sense for Answerer since he's more into male dominant sex positions like Succubus Affection got.
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I remember Zell had an idea for a monster that possessed the MC, genderbending him into a ghost, and he even had unused animation of the genderbent MC getting fucked by monsters.
This is a possibility regarding the addition of Futa, and the "ghost" type enemy makes more sense in SnY than it did in FOBS anyway. Since in FOBS you have sex and you go on, while in SnY, as soon as you're caught it's gameover.

i'm not sure how it wouldn't be futa on male since its a strictly reverse rape / femdom setting. the protagonist isn't trying to have sex, hes trying to escape. whats the point of having futa on enemies if the protag isn't getting fucked by it.

I also think it's strange.
The dev is contradicting himself. His desires and the type of game he's making don't align, so they'll have to force it in some way.
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I'm on the anti-futa team. Put a dick on a chick and I'm noping straight out of there. The fact that it's toggleable is great for me since I'm clearly in the hyper minority here, but it seems like my opinion is still being listened to.

 

[super_slicer]

whats the point of having futa on enemies if the protag isn't getting fucked by it.

The same way it works with female enemies. It's certainly counter-intuitive but maybe the futanari are just not into sodomy.

 

[TheUnsaid]

The same way it works with female enemies. It's certainly counter-intuitive but maybe the futanari are just not into sodomy.

Just call it butt-stuff or anal.
Sodomy's a loaded term.

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You're a maledom-only guy so all your tentacles and dog fucking heroines would be "sodomy" as well.

 

[Serifyn]

I also think it's strange.
The dev is contradicting himself. His desires and the type of game he's making don't align, so they'll have to force it in some way.

Are you sure that Zell talking about SnY and not the other guy talking about SA2? SA seems to be a little more light-hearted than SnY. SnY is more oriented towards rape, whereas SA was more like seduction into sex which was initiated by the monster girl.

I don't think that futa on male would fit very well in SA2, but it would fit perfectly in SnY, at least in terms of the setting, devs seem understandably hesitant to cross that threshold but (other game spoiler)

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even the dev of 'The Three Charms' did it in the 3rd game.

 

[TheUnsaid]

Are you sure that Zell talking about SnY and not the other guy talking about SA2? SA seems to be a little more light-hearted than SnY. SnY is more oriented towards rape, whereas SA was more like seduction into sex which was initiated by the monster girl.

I don't think that futa on male would fit very well in SA2, but it would fit perfectly in SnY, at least in terms of the setting, devs seem understandably hesitant to cross that threshold but (other game spoiler)

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even the dev of 'The Three Charms' did it in the 3rd game.

This whole post is about SnY
It's a bit confusing because of the blindfolded succubus that appears, but apparently that's an "unknown" type monster that will appear in SnY not Succubus Affection 2.

The poll is about SnY
The comments are about SnY
The author comments on his general desires regarding futa, which I already quoted above.

Regarding adding futa characters in the game:

I think saying something as fatalistic as "There is no future for futanari x man"
is pretty explicit as a statement.

That being said, it's most likely Answerer responding, since Zell doesn't respond on Ci-en but his own blog. Zell's a bit of a weirdo considering he's into so many things. If he's into vore, it's not much of a stretch to say he might be into futa's penetrating men. If Zell pushes hard enough maybe it might happen, but SnY is a team-game now. Don't forget that Succubus Affection became a maledom game, with the addition of his partner and the monster designs became much less monstrous due to his input for that game as well.

Like... it's not impossible but man is it unlikely.

 

[Captainstarfish]

I'd like to add that technically if you are getting boned by a female with a dick it isn't gay since it's not another dude.

It's pretty gay. You're taking a female and replacing/adding to female genitals a penis, which is pretty much the defining feature of the male sex, and then inserting said male penis into your anus. Male penis + Male arsehole equals gay.

The defining feature of the futa fetish is slapping a cock on something that is not meant to have a cock. The focus of the fetish is the cock. The meat sock. The dick. Futa is all about increasing the amount of dick and reducing the amount of vag.

It unbalances the cock/vagina ratio and heavily pushes it to the cock side. A cockup if you will. So yeah, it is gay.

 

[TheUnsaid]

It's pretty gay. You're taking a female and replacing/adding to female genitals a penis, which is pretty much the defining feature of the male sex, and then inserting said male penis into your anus. Male penis + Male arsehole equals gay.

The defining feature of the futa fetish is slapping a cock on something that is not meant to have a cock. The focus of the fetish is the cock. The meat sock. The dick. Futa is all about increasing the amount of dick and reducing the amount of vag.

It unbalances the cock/vagina ratio and heavily pushes it to the cock side. A cockup if you will. So yeah, it is gay.

I can't tell the sarcastic joking apart from your real thoughts.

Pegging technically isn't gay. I'd personally never let anyone put anything up my butt so I don't get the fetish, but it's not.
Futa pegging is the same.

I say if you're into either though, you are most likely bi.

 

[Serifyn]

I say if you're into either though, you are most likely bi.

I disagree with this because being gay means you are attracted to men. Futas are generally highly sexualized women with extremely feminine features, not masculine features which is what gay men and straight women are attracted to. the futa cock is just another instrument of being physically dominated. I wouldn't even want to be fucked with a dick because the only sex that has a dick is men who i am not attracted to, but the ideal of being sexually dominated to an extreme degree by women does appeal to me in the fantasy sense.

 

[Captainstarfish]

Pegging technically isn't gay.

Because it doesn't involve a penis, a male sexual organ, being inserted into male arse. It's still degenerate, and the anus is not meant for object insertion, but it's not gay, no. However, futa is not pegging. Pegging is pegging. Futa is specifically the addition of a flesh and blood penis, usually with the ability to preform all male functions including ejaculation. Futa on male RETROBATES want a penis that can insert SEMEN into their bowels like a chef fills a donut with custard.

Male on futa exists because those heathens aren't satisfyed with a female with a strapon, oh no, they need their insides plastered with semen.

So yes, futa on male is gay.

Futa pegging is the same.

It is not, the only similarity is inserting something up your bunghole. See above.

I say if you're into either though, you are most likely bi.

Fucking buggery enthusiasts.

 

[Serifyn]

It's still degenerate, and the anus is not meant for object insertion,

Did you get horribly lost on the way to bible study or what?

 

[Captainstarfish]

I disagree with this because being gay means you are attracted to men.

A penis. You're attracted to the penis. That is the defining feature of futa. Pegging isn't enough, you need The Penis. You have cock lust my friend, accept it.

Futas are generally highly sexualized women with extremely feminine features, not masculine features which is what gay men and straight women are attracted to.

feminine features... AND A COCK.

'not masculine features'

 

[TheUnsaid]

I disagree with this because being gay means you are attracted to men. Futas are generally highly sexualized women with extremely feminine features, not masculine features which is what gay men and straight women are attracted to. the futa cock is just another instrument of being physically dominated. I wouldn't even want to be fucked with a dick because the only sex that has a dick is men who i am not attracted to, but the ideal of being sexually dominated to an extreme degree by women does appeal to me in the fantasy sense.

If a dick doesn't turn you off than a man exists out there that you'd let put his penis up your poophole.
So you're technically bi.

Being bi doesn't mean being attracted to only conventionally masculine figures and conventionally feminine figures.
It means that under certain conditions you'd fuck a dude, and under certain conditions you'd fuck a girl.

Even if it's 90% girl 10% dude you're still bi.

Fucking buggery enthusiasts.

I even went through and stated it's not my kink but I still got labeled? Dude are you triggered or something. Thought we were just discussing. Well I'm done with that part of the discussion. I personally couldn't care less.

 

[Captainstarfish]

Did you get horribly lost on the way to bible study or what?

The anus is biologically not meant for sticking cock into it, it's an exit not an entrance. That's why you get hemmaroids, anal fissures, and eventual incontinence. It's why you have to spend time preparing with enemas to not get shit on your dick.

I even went through and stated it's not my kink but I still got labeled? Dude are you triggered or something. Thought we were just discussing. Well I'm done with that part of the discussion. I personally couldn't care less.

That wasn't aimed at you, that's why the plural was used.

 

[Serifyn]

If a dick doesn't turn you off than a man exists out there that you'd let put his penis up your poophole.
So you're technically bi.

Being bi doesn't mean being attracted to only conventionally masculine figures and conventionally feminine figures.
It means that under certain conditions you'd fuck a dude, and under certain conditions you'd fuck a girl.

Even if it's 90% girl 10% dude you're still bi.

Once again i have to disagree. I know it sounds ridiculous, but being fucked in the ass with a dick and liking it doesn't make you gay, being sexually attracted to men makes you gay. If you want a man to fuck you in the ass, you are gay, and you couldn't realistically be fucked in the ass by a dick in real life without being gay since everyone who possesses a dick is biologically a man.

If you derive pleasure from things in your anus, that doesn't make you gay, once again heterosexual men have the same nerve endings in their anal cavity that homosexual men do, the stimulation of the prostate is very pleasurable and it is accessable via the anal cavity.

What is considered degenerate to others doesn't really concern me, what i'm trying to explain is what makes someone gay, which is usually the attraction to the male masculine form and body type or the male personality type. We're throwing labels around here that we're associating with specific actions, not physical attraction which is what determines whether someone is attracted to a different sex or their own sex.

The anus is biologically not meant for sticking cock into it, it's an exit not an entrance. That's why you get hemmaroids, anal fissures, and eventual incontinence. It's why you have to spend time preparing with enemas to not get shit on your dick.

Thats well and good, but people have anal sex all the time, heterosexual couples have anal sex despite it being not 'biologically intended'. Some people derive pleasure from it which is why they engage in it. What nature intended is not my concern, nature may have accidentally created a portal that some people gain pleasure from sticking all manner of phallic objects into, and just so we're clear i'm not in any kind of rush to stick said objects into my own rear, but that fantasy of being dominated to that extent by a FEMALE is intriguing, at least to me.

 

[DarkFire1004]

While it's certainly an interesting topic to discuss, I think we've been bumping this thread a bit too much with off-topic discussion. If you'd like to continue this, please feel free to make a thread in the Discussion section. Otherwise, please return to talking about the game.

 

[Captainstarfish]

but being fucked in the ass with a dick and liking it doesn't make you gay

Hang on, I need to update the definition of the 'cope', let me contact Oxford and ensure it gets in the next edition.

which is usually the attraction to the male masculine form and body type or the male personality type.

The penis IS the defining feature of the masculine form. It has been the universal symbol of the male sex since humans began to walk, all across the world. You say it's not gay, but you mention domination of a male by a futa? Why is it domination? Because it's making the male being penilely penetrated feel gay as fuck.

Edit: Whoops, Sorry Darkfire, I'll end it here.

 

[Someone92]

So, the gist of the discussion is that the protagonist shoving his dick into futas is a maybe, and futas shoving their dick into the MC is a no?!

 

[AnonTheHuman]

So, the gist of the discussion is that the protagonist shoving his dick into futas is a maybe, and futas shoving their dick into the MC is a no?!

Based on the questionnaire screenshots, yeah. I'm just happy it's not vore.