Re: Ayame's Adventure - English H-Game (Heaven Studios)
You can't be serious. You'd pay no more than "twenty bucks" for a CG with a simply background. Good luck with that. If you find ANY reasonable artist willing to work at those ludicrous rates, let me know. I'd commission them and pay them $25. If you knew anything about artwork, you'd know that you'r basically suggesting paying someone $20 for 8-12 hours of work minimum--and that is only if you use simplistic shading and probably go with a pre-existing character.
I challenge you to draw "high quality" artwork in 3 hours. I mean, it would take you 3 hours to steal a picture online and crop it in Flash? Okay, that is not "drawing." And a high quality animation in a day? Hilarious. I'd seriously caution you against using Patreon, as I think your expectations are beyond unreasonable.
Sorry to derail the thread Starke, but when people trash the amount of work that goes into quality artwork, it bothers me. Good artists put A LOT of time into their artwork, and it is not something they throw together in a "few hours."
Really i mean have you had an art lesson in school (In my country when i was going to school, we had and truthfully one lesson last 45 min and those who had talent created "high quality art" in those 45 min, my friend draw me dungeon and keeper 2 art on sheet 1mx60cm in 2 hours (truthfully it was black and white with pencil but still it was more beutiful than original color artwork on instruction). My neighbour is after art school, she create some real paintings for up to 12 hours so should i believe that her is as the same as someone who declare that manga art needs 12 hour to create ?? (I mention that the last thing i heard about her was that she was renovating some paintings in king's palace somewhere in asia). So those example are how much times takes to create art on paper, so i would have a right to say that creating art on computer is easier since we can correct our mistakes, so why i understand why the game creators needs to pay so much for simple manga based images, i'm yet to understand why most of those called artist tells that it takes them 12 hour to create manga based art or worse character portraits. Also i didn't mentioned my friend from studies that on every lecture could create beautiful western fantasy art in notebook, and keeping notes at the same time (and the lecture last 1.5 hours, also his dragons was something amazing). I mean if i would see an art from someone who created something with so much details as painting i would believe, but i'm yet to see something similar in hentai games, to be truthful for me who can't even draw circle that looks like circle, computer painting is the only way to create art and my experience is only from creating sprites and characters in flash (and to be truthful sprites are much more time consuming than vector art.
Also what do you mean steal and crop?? from what i understand we have yet to patent lines or curves although Americans almost patented it (as well a wheel), but yet i'm here to see anyone who gets sued by getting inspiration from others work (basically it's something like that i get an image which had an angle and ideal propotion than try to keep my own character as similar regarding general shape and propotions to source as possible since myself i don't have any art ability).
I mean i thinks that i step on someones foots with previous post, but truthfully the artists are overpriced (Also i mean only those who i had contacts, so they might be ones who for 50-100 bucks get you high quality art that you will be satisfied meaning they redraw them until meet expectation of clients), also for those whom really takes 12 hours for creating manga/anime based images i mean sorry but probably you don't have any art talent just you are hardworking similar to me, but i just don't get paid for that.
Also at and one thing if i create game it's obvious that artist will use preexisting characters, either someone would create before hand rough draft of characters in scene or might be even created a complete set of standing pictures, so it's not like the artist will need to consult client first how the characters look like or better created a few rough drafts and ask a client which is the one that he wants, although to be truthful in this case i would pay up to 50$ but the art should be high quality, and those drafts should be different from each other not only one scene with few variations, but if i order and art either i give rough draft of scene and characters or give an image that has similar setup to desired one, so artist can omit steps with creating drafts of scene or characters, I mean creating a concepts of characters is different work from creating a image on order (in first case the artist usually gets something along line the character must be beautiful, whilst the second case he has drafts and just needs to draw characters in right position), so to short summary of this part of text, that i mean if artist would need to create entire art from vaguely words like create me beautiful characters, it could really takes 10 hours for one image, but for games the artist gets everything he needs to create art so he is free of creating concepts for game, so basically it's hard to justify so high price of hentai images for games (usually if game dev is reasonable fellow).
