Cyborg999
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Re: Guilty Hell
I knew that post would get a negative response. Do I always sound like a dick, or am I even more socially inept than I thought I was? Seriously, I want to know, since nobody on this forum has ever seemed to have a single positive response to anything I say. Just a confused side note, I'm not really angry.
Anyway, I wasn't saying that I need an incentive. If I was referring to myself I would have to say that I very much want an incentive, because the big demo you referred to is apparently missing most of the content that people keep saying is in the Enty demo, including many gameplay fixes that I would need to actually play through myself to see how the game has improved over time. Text descriptions of all of this stuff isn't enough for me, but if I saw enough of the updates and saw that they were definitely making positive progress, you can bet your paragraphs that I would support the game through whatever weird service I could manage it. You're speaking with someone in an odd financial situation (as are many, I'm sure) who has also made the mistake of backing far too many games on promise which simply disappear or disappoint afterwards. Please be understanding if I don't seem to be rushing to my wallet this time, no matter how helpful or friendly or progressive the dev seems to be.
Of course, this isn't how everyone thinks, and I even said in my original post that it might just make people pirate the heck out of the game, but there might actually be good reason for that. Reading through this thread, I saw a lot of people who wanted to play and enjoy this game who simply couldn't due to the method of payment, either not being able to sign up or not wanting to. Hopefully this particular game has a chance of being released on one of these 'H-Steam' things that have been popping up so that you don't even have to pirate it, and we can all be happy. But until then, as another yarr matey of ULMF, you can at least understand that sometimes people do want to support the developer and can't.
Of course, this is all speaking as a poor naive soul who actually buys the games he grabs from here and then puts enough time into. I'm likely the exception rather than the rule, but... dammit, let me live in my fantasy, man!
To be fair, if someone is asking for the patreon version just to "see what's new" to get an incentive, chances are he will probably grab the copy, don't pay anyway and then wait for someone to share the fully released game.
Patronage shouldn't be considered paying to get an update. Or paying to play a game. It's paying to support the content you tried and enjoyed so far.
Multiple people have listed in this topic all the differences between the free demo and the patreon version, and they continue to give out infos about the updates as they go.
Saying i just want an incentive sounds to me just an excuse to get free stuff.
The author already gave quite a big free version of the game with lot of content, enemies variety and animations.
This is not a completed game, patronage supports the author in making it and the more people are willing to pay for it, the better the results will be at the end. Sharing the patreon version of the game is not fair neither to the author nor to those who are paying to support his work.
Even if people only sign up for a single month just to get the copy and then unsubscribe, that is still money given to the author. Money he can use to make the game better.
If everyone would go with the "gimme free patreon" mentality, authors would be too busy IRL trying to make money to pay the bills rather than focusing on the content they promised to do.
Or even worse, they'll have to rush it, making mediocre content, because they can't afford to dedicate time on it anymore.
Pirating a game in development might hurt way more than pirating a complete product.
Now don't get me wrong. I do understand people with technical difficulties.
Heck, i cannot buy anything from DLsite because my mastercard doesn't work there.
I am forced to pirate most of the games i play. And i would be the first one to share this game whenever is completed and put on sale.
But, like i said before, a completed game with a pricetag on it is different than a game still in development.
For that very reason, i won't share the patreon version of this, nor i think other people should do it.
I knew that post would get a negative response. Do I always sound like a dick, or am I even more socially inept than I thought I was? Seriously, I want to know, since nobody on this forum has ever seemed to have a single positive response to anything I say. Just a confused side note, I'm not really angry.
Anyway, I wasn't saying that I need an incentive. If I was referring to myself I would have to say that I very much want an incentive, because the big demo you referred to is apparently missing most of the content that people keep saying is in the Enty demo, including many gameplay fixes that I would need to actually play through myself to see how the game has improved over time. Text descriptions of all of this stuff isn't enough for me, but if I saw enough of the updates and saw that they were definitely making positive progress, you can bet your paragraphs that I would support the game through whatever weird service I could manage it. You're speaking with someone in an odd financial situation (as are many, I'm sure) who has also made the mistake of backing far too many games on promise which simply disappear or disappoint afterwards. Please be understanding if I don't seem to be rushing to my wallet this time, no matter how helpful or friendly or progressive the dev seems to be.
Of course, this isn't how everyone thinks, and I even said in my original post that it might just make people pirate the heck out of the game, but there might actually be good reason for that. Reading through this thread, I saw a lot of people who wanted to play and enjoy this game who simply couldn't due to the method of payment, either not being able to sign up or not wanting to. Hopefully this particular game has a chance of being released on one of these 'H-Steam' things that have been popping up so that you don't even have to pirate it, and we can all be happy. But until then, as another yarr matey of ULMF, you can at least understand that sometimes people do want to support the developer and can't.
Of course, this is all speaking as a poor naive soul who actually buys the games he grabs from here and then puts enough time into. I'm likely the exception rather than the rule, but... dammit, let me live in my fantasy, man!
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