I'm having trouble figuring out what you consider sexual content and not, and that's probably what's confusing me when it comes to your tastes in ExcessM.
Is there ever a missionary or even doggystyle pose in any of his games?
If you consider a girl looking hurt I don't see why Smash Boy does nothing for you. Is it just the cloths breaking? Heck most femdom games do this. It's not even unique to ExcessM.
All sexual content in the game is pure femdom though and always has been.
I guess the point of contention between us is definitely the "line" between what is sexual content and what isn't.
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I see your general point though.
While I don't understand it, you're able to find enjoyment in the game in your own way and that's good.
BTW, if you want to quote a person easily, just highlight the text and hit reply.
The thing I was trying to convey that you didn't understand is probably the "punishment,", the Shota>Onee side of ExcessM's games. We all agree that the main theme of his work is Femdom, and that's what we mostly see the girls doing. But what can the SHOTA do to the girls?
In YumeSame and SmashBoy, just ryona, and body shot in SmashBoy's case. I'm actually NOT that fond of ryona, though in this case it's against evil girls so it's fine. But if we compare it to the other:
In OneShota, you get a variety of "weapon" like handbag and water squirters, which you aim at their crotch or leg, which makes it more sexual than violent. Then you get the Shadow Knight's specials, which destroy clothes, making the girl defeated, lie down and cover up in humiliation. THEN, you have these 2 boss fights with the Wrestler Girl and Mantis Girl, where you have to dodge their attacks, grab their breasts (with the Wrestler girl), then shove their butt when they're tired/shocked. THEN AGAIN, the Mantis girl transform into a giantess, and the method of beating her revolves around making her cum and then give her a good shove.
Kariyume is not as intense, but you still retain the special clothes breaks and get to kick a ball into a succubus's butt, a hot professor's butt, and a hot kimono lady's butt.
Parade Buster with its 1st person is unique and you can sort of "touch" any body part with your mouse (creepy...._). For example. you could do something kinky like waiting for that bikini-clad boss to take a strike, guard, then counter her right in the belly button with your ice sword, freezing her and then "punish" with the Stone axe, petrifying her and finally, defeat the breaks her clothes with a normal attack. It's pretty embarrassing sharing my weird kinks, but the game DO allows for it. The final boss of the story also stayed naked and defeated for a brief moment, screaming before disappearing. It's hot and satisfying.
Hagokoro is basically Parade Buster with extra content for fans of ryona. It's even stated so in the DLsite page. Enemies are now staggered, hurt and squeal the moment they're hit. If they're low on HP, they get hurt and distressed. And if they're defeated for good, you get to see them lying helplessly on the ground and punish them more.
The difference between ExcessM and a lot of other femdom authors is that he actually includes these little bits of content for when you win against the femdom. And prior to SmashBoy these little contents are actually quite erotic. Other femdom author mostly either make the enemy just disappear and move on with the next scene in RPGs, or make a simple "fall-down" sprite, which is exactly what happened in SmashBoy and YumeSame.
Pretty sure he meant in domination/rape type games. Rape is a genre of extremes in most cases, with both directions suffering from different things that are way overdone. Male on female rape almost always is needlessly brutal visually, the girl is almost always innocent and has done nothing to deserve the rape, the rapist is often ugly or monstrous. Female on male rape is mainly done on innocent shotas, it lacks the visible brutality of male on female, but is more messed up in other ways so while the girls don't look hideous they go for permanent enslavement or murder right away. Rape or domination games that have a middle ground are not too common. I am into the Rance type of the spectrum, more lighthearted, even funny at times, and often aimed against girls that you don't mind getting raped or even encourage it due to things they have done, but the guy will not get raped back by girls if he loses, this is rare to be balanced, even in battlefuck games because in these games the opponents do not really mind sexual acts to begin with, especially the females.
This guy
gets it. Except that I'm also into battlefuck if it has content for when you defeat the girl, like in the whole ROBF series, Milkyquest, BF Brave, and NOT the Lust Grimm series. I didn't reply to you (TheUnsaid) about that before because you were right and it was besides the discussion about ExcessM anyway
Maybe all this would be less confusing if I man up and share the relevant points about my fetish.
I'm a sadist like Triplebrc, and I like the male to be dominating. But I only get off to vindicating sexual acts and humiliation of arrogant dominatrix, and even then it can't go too far that the girl is turned into something dehumanizing like a slave or toy. Just punishment. With that in mind, I'm also fine with femdom as long as you get to take revenge and it won't end with just the femdom. Finally, since this genre is so rare (Only found out lately that there's now a tag called Domination Loss that fits pretty well, but there's like only ~220 works on Nhentai), I'm also willing to make some compromises, like when there's little content for me but the art is just so good like ExcessM, or when both parties are jerks, etc....
We should also have some examples:
Oh do tell, I haven't seen such a game in a while, please send me a pm with a name or two from that collection if you can find the time, as there are very few games that do this right and actually give the dominatrix a fitting reaction to it, most of them just break down the instant they get touched, which is a damn shame.
I agree that too few games manage a proper balance when it comes to who gets fucked and how they act during it, and personality variety is also pretty low. By all means I do not consider ExcessM to be one of them who balances it well, not even in the newest game, as the protagonists actions are never sexually motivated and enemies are usually of the same mindset, but being able to punish the enemies is a step in the right direction for me as well, even though I do not mind female on male rape at all, as long as no dicks or strapons are involved. But yeah, raping super sadistic or dominant females is much more satisfying than going off on a poor innocent village virgin, especially if the game makes you earn it and there are stakes involved, and VERY few games I know allow the rape to go in both directions equally.
The most recent work I've got and also a really good one in a while is
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A Shota Prince going against an evil organization of girls, power ranger styled with henchwomen, executives, mutants, and such. The author achieved the ultimate perfect balance: If you lose a fight it's femdom and Onee>Shota. But if you win it's Rape + Shota>Onee. He also made other games with like 60% Onee>Shota and 40% Shota>Onee.
Triplebrc asked for something where the dominatrix doesn't immediately break upon getting the table turned on her, so how about:
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A succubus infestation is happening across the whole land and every girl is turned while guys are going extinct. You, a male succubus hunter, set out to do sex battles and save the world. Enemies are pretty animated, voiced, pretty; they squealed and freaked out when you attack them but pull all kind of femdom-heavy techinques when it's their turn. You and they keep taking turns and turn the tables on each others until one sides give out and is defeated, completed with a ton of voiceline for different stages of the battle: mocking arrogantly when you're losing and finally kick the bucket, but getting tense and desperate as a mere human is getting them off, with a final defeat scream. It's one of the oldest gem in my collection
