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(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)


Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

xaxs said:
I just SAW'ed her yesterday and this range is really ridiculous. Yes it is nice, but it didn't impress me so much as Despara's or Olivie's SAW did.
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Is Despara's SAW even that good? Doesn't the range drop make its usefulness prohibitive? Her range goes down as far as if she was a base witch, she loses .2x attack multiplier, and her skill loses 15 second duration. For limited range AoE, I'm sure it's nice, but anything else? I'm failing to see the benefits here.
 
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razisgosu said:
For limited range AoE, I'm sure it's nice, but anything else? I'm failing to see the benefits here.
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Attack becomes 1.7 times as effective, range multiplied by 0.75 and cooldown reduced for 30 seconds.

kind of important.
 
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razisgosu said:
Is Despara's SAW even that good? Doesn't the range drop make its usefulness prohibitive? Her range goes down as far as if she was a base witch, she loses .2x attack multiplier, and her skill loses 15 second duration. For limited range AoE, I'm sure it's nice, but anything else? I'm failing to see the benefits here.
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I had the same thoughts and worries, but than I read, few pages earlier here, that this speed is much higher and decided to try it. You can always change it back, costly but possible.
And her SAW... It's insane to see couple enemies slowed down in witch's ice and her speed is insane too. I don't know if it's doubled just like in Olivie's case, but still it's really insanely fast. I tried her for the first time in Phalanx 2... I literally blinked and 5 or 6 armors all that was in her range was gone. Angels on last GR map also don't stand any chance. Yeah, limited range can hurt a bit, but it's just near impossible to pass her with SAW even for a group of enemies. I think I should test her against some golem.
 
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Selius said:
Attack becomes 1.7 times as effective, range multiplied by 0.75 and cooldown reduced for 30 seconds.

kind of important.
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Cooldown reduced isn't that great if you can't hit anything with it. 170 range is really short. A witches prime role is single target damage and slow. Reducing your slow coverage area to become a short ranged mage for 30 seconds doesn't seem a positive trade off to me. But maybe I just need to see a gif of it in action doing feats of wonder.

What the veterans have to say about her -

Despia is an interesting case where you are begging for more range due to her skill. She’s always in harm’s way and often get in the way of deployment. But she deals a lot of magical aoe damage, beating Kayou against a dense mob.
 
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razisgosu said:
Cooldown reduced isn't that great if you can't hit anything with it. 170 range is really short. A witches prime role is single target damage and slow. Reducing your slow coverage area to become a short ranged mage for 30 seconds doesn't seem a positive trade off to me. But maybe I just need to see a gif of it in action doing feats of wonder.

What the veterans have to say about her -

Despia is an interesting case where you are begging for more range due to her skill. She’s always in harm’s way and often get in the way of deployment. But she deals a lot of magical aoe damage, beating Kayou against a dense mob.
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when you factor in splash radius it outranges her old range.

192+93 > 230

if she can't reach an enemy from where she's standing then don't use her skill. im not sure why this is such a big deal. in all other cases it's a massive dps spike along with practically rooting a whole swarm in place.
 
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192 is her aw2 holy witch path skill aw range 172 is her base skill aw range also 230 is her base aw range and holy witch has 240 and i can tell you for sure her +93 splash range doesnt work like that it works as an anything in a 93 radius around the target she hits gets iced aswell
 
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khawk016 said:
192 is her aw2 holy witch path skill aw range 172 is her base skill aw range also 230 is her base aw range and holy witch has 240 and i can tell you for sure her +93 splash range doesnt work like that it works as an anything in a 93 radius around the target she hits gets iced aswell
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I've been using SAWd Desperia for over a year,and I have to say I never regreted it cause I know she is skill awakened,and she needs to be near enemies for it,so I make sure she is safe,and can use her skill properly.

She pretty much replaces most mages too,cause she atks faster than Mikoto with it up,and has almost the same slow,its the kinda thing you need to experiance to understand.
Also in DMM it was much worse when it was first released since her orginal range was smaller,but thats to the affection change it helped a lot.
 
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same despia and fiore are my goto magic dps atm and synergizes so well its scary is why i chimed in to clear up mistakes that could make a differance later
 
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I SAW'd my Despara and took her for a ride at War of Magic just for the lulz (3* this was such a PAIN 1 year ago) and goddamn she almost solo'd it.
 
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Ndsferrari said:
I SAW'd my Despara and took her for a ride at War of Magic just for the lulz (3* this was such a PAIN 1 year ago) and goddamn she almost solo'd it.
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tfw have aw yuyu but still can't 3* it
 
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Selius said:
when you factor in splash radius it outranges her old range.

192+93 > 230

if she can't reach an enemy from where she's standing then don't use her skill. im not sure why this is such a big deal. in all other cases it's a massive dps spike along with practically rooting a whole swarm in place.
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Its a pretty big deal when you're relying on the long range slow, which now you suddenly can't pop the skill because it cuts her effective range by a solid 60-70 range. That's all I've been saying. There's a reason even small range increases/decreases can make or break units in this game or opt for certain AW2 paths.
 
Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

IMO, Despara SAW is worth.

With her normal skill, she's the best witch in the general sense, which is single-target-mag-atk + slow.
With her SAW, she becomes a specialist. Can't rly call her witch anymore.

It has drawbacks for sure. Range Does matter for ranged units.
But the gain is something unique - super high DPS AOE mag atk - while single-target-high-mag-dmg is something that can be supplemented by other black/plat class units.

But if you don't have anything to replace her witch-ness, I could see her being skipped.
 
Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

11 niels for 2 SU.

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I've mincosted my Niel and she's at 2/10.
 
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I Just realized.. do gold units have skill awakening right?

And it might mean that level 55 silver units is likely to be coming relatively "soon".
 
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Ericridge said:
And it might mean that level 55 silver units is likely to be coming relatively "soon".
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a couple months ago that would have excited me.

now? meh. how many silvers even have abilities that make them fieldable over the gold units we've been given who almost entirely replace them.

i haven't used leeanne since i got bernice. i seldomly place phyllis. daniela doesn't do enough damage to be worth her cost anymore(more range but you still cant do proper dps yay).

outside of harissa and mortimer getting gold get, and dan+dancer miracle man cheesing what silvers are even gonna get slotted back into a team that has most of the event plats?
 
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Xion said:
To be fair when I posted that Miyabi wasn't announced yet
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kinda missed this post so I'm late replying but

Petite post of her was 4/5 days ago(time zones) while your post is 3 days old.
 
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theres silvers we dont have for one the princess is quite nice iirc but besides that while silvers dont have a place for most full aw teams theyre insanely useful for new players and not to mention the maps that are silver only or gold+ 3x cost or similar nonsense
 
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