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Incubus you want smut eh? Well here you go.

 

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fanta23, it's actually the unobtanium in the mountains. Helium filled mountains? That's ridiculous for a number of reasons. The least of which is that these mountains actually have groundwater supplies from the rain. You can't have groundwater if you're a balloon. Besides, where would the helium come from? Not to mention that helium really doesn't provide that much lift. It takes nothing to hold down a balloon filled with helium.
 

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hehe the floating mountains part is easy as hell to explain.

helium filled just like balloons. my friend asked me how mountains would float and immediately i thought of helium filled balloons.
The reason helium floats is because it's less dense than air. The average density of the mountains, even if filled with helium, would be far higher than than of air unless the mountains have extremely thin (Read: doesn't support your weight) outsides.

Also:
 

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The reason helium floats is because it's less dense than air. The average density of the mountains, even if filled with helium, would be far higher than than of air unless the mountains have extremely thin (Read: doesn't support your weight) outsides.

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.........Lol.
 

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Yeah, I've been hearing about these people... seriously, holy crap.

Like the one guy said in that article, why don't they leave everything behind, go into Vietnam, or the Amazon rainforest, somewhere where they can disappear and be at one with the planet. They can make clothing out of whatever they find, and make weapons to defend themselves against predators, just like the Na'vi did, day in and day out. I don't think people truly realize what a deadly place Pandora was, because much of the movie focused on how beautiful the world was. They quickly forget how vicious it was. Play the game, Jame's Cameron created the Pandorapedia for that game, so everything actually "exists" on his Pandora, and plants try to kill you. Plants for fuck sakes.

Funny how easy it is for people to instantly see how western society is so evil, despite all the details that Cameron put it to showcase that it was corporate greed, and not humans, that are evil. Hell, he did the same thing way back with Aliens. Remember Burke? So, all these folks living nice and comfortably in their houses, with their internet, bitching, should just try camping in the woods, or the jungle, before whining about missing out on the fucking hellhole that is Pandora.

Excuse me if I don't want my final days to be spent being digested in a fuckin flower.
 

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Went and saw Avatar.

Keep getting my phone vibrations through the movie.
Finally get up and leave, knowing it must be damned important. At this point it is the climax of the film.

I check my messages - some from Will (friend), some from Monk (friend). So both are saying they need to speak to me immediately.

Now for some backstory.

William was desperately looking for a home. Monk happened to need a roommate. So I connected the two, which of course came with my own recommendation to Monk. Everything worked well, my recommendation clinched it for Will and he had the place promised to him - Monk even went so far as to tell a girl who was going to move in mid february that the place was taken. Will was due to move in the day after the movie.

So I call Monk, as his seemed the most urgent. When I get through to him, he is the most pissed-off 6"3 American Brick I've ever listened to. Will cancelled. The day after they agreed, the place was his, the day before he was moving in. FUCKING CANCELLED.

So I spent the next hour and a half trying desperately to figure out what the fuck happened, trying to calm Monk down and trying to at least make everyone somewhat happy.


Suffice to say, I now have nothing but rage attached to that movie.




Also, it was pretty. That is all.
 

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Well... at least you don't want to kill yerself for not living on Pandora.

Also, Sly had that happen to her as well. It was a pretty big piss off there too.
 

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fanta23, it's actually the unobtanium in the mountains. Helium filled mountains? That's ridiculous for a number of reasons. The least of which is that these mountains actually have groundwater supplies from the rain. You can't have groundwater if you're a balloon. Besides, where would the helium come from? Not to mention that helium really doesn't provide that much lift. It takes nothing to hold down a balloon filled with helium.
Answer: Helium filled VOLCANOES.
 

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Psht. All you need is a heat source.
 

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Helium filled volcanoes (Even if you could get them to be full of helium) don't float.
 

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Helium filled volcanoes (Even if you could get them to be full of helium) don't float.
Yes they do, provided they're hot enough.
 

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Volcanoes have to be made of solid rock with possibly hollow cores filled with magma. The only way to make them less dense that air is to heat them to the point where they turn into a gas.
 

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By definition much of a volcano(if you include magma) is liquid anyway. And it only needs enough solid mass to hold the thing together. The rest can be helium(or hydrogen, albeit that would mean that a breach would lead to it's destruction). If the volcano is then sealed off(so the helium or hydrogen doesn't get away) it can be heated to the point where it floats. Presto, you have a volcano that floats. You don't argue with people who have floating volcanoes.
 

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Saw Avatar a couple of days ago, and while the CGI was superb I felt that the story was lacking somewhat. As in, it was your cliche ridden puddle of bile. Seriously, if I wanted an action movie with some romance I'd go watch James Bond. And if I wanted to watch a 'save the planet' documentory I'd go watch the Discovery channel. If Avatar was ten years worth of work I think James Cameron should hang up his directors chair.

'Oh hey, there's that dragon-thing thats only been caught 5 times because its soooo powerful.'

'Oh shit, they're pwning us hard! We need something as a symbol so we can rally around it and beat their ass's!'

'Oh hai, I just caught this dragon-thing. Lets go pwn some human ass.'

Seriously, I assumed that a movie that was as hyped as Avatar was would be free of these cliches.

In other news, I'm going to watch a promising movie tomorrow; Book of Eli. Or, if you will, Fallout 3 The Movie.
 

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In other news, I'm going to watch a promising movie tomorrow; Book of Eli. Or, if you will, Fallout 3 The Movie.
I want to see that so bad. It looks awesome!
Too bad I missed "The Road", similar vein of post-apocalypse without insane special effects and outrageous monsters. Though the Road has been described to me as "the anti feel-good movie". Hmm.

As for cliches in Avatar. Yeah, it be full of em. Let's remember though that James Cameron is primarily an action director, but always throws in a romance or some kind of touchy feely relationship. Aliens (Ripley's relationship with Newt, and a hint of romance between Hicks and Ripley), Terminator (Sarah Conner and Kyle Reese), True Lies (Arnold and Jamie Lee Curtis) all feature this trend. Titanic was a huge sidestep for him, but it did have a sinking boat final half.

Avatar in retrospect followed a similar trend to Titanic. First half was all establishing characters and relationships. Second half was war. He also didn't spend 10 years actually making it, just 10 years wanting to. He didn't get funding and people onto the project until like 2 years ago. It was all stop and go like the Halo movie.
 

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Yeah, thats what I meant, if he had ten years to come up with the idea and what he wanted to do then maybe he should've not bothered at all if that was the end result.
 

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I see your point, but somehow I think he just wrote a script and didn't change a damn thing over ten years... or someone else came in to rework it a bit to make it "cooler".

Regardless, while I thought the movie was good, I saw it as 3 hours of eye candy. Though... somehow, the fairly stale script managed to lure in all those internet fuck heads who want to go live on Pandora now. *sigh*

The game is about the same as the movie, except that it doesn't catch the eye nearly as well, but you get to burn/shoot/blow up a whole shitload of plants. And get rewarded for it.
 

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Eh, while the environment was fucking awesome I'd much rather live in my post-apocalyptic settings. Zombies are optional. At least that way I can see when something is coming to snack on my man-parts.
 
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