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Re: Time to get the fuck out of the US or stand up and fight

*Sighs*

I thought I was doing a good thing. I wanted to inform people about things that scared me about the US government but I guess someone should lock this thread before I get called a crazy conspiracy theorist. :(
 

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Re: Time to get the fuck out of the US or stand up and fight

Oh, I have no problem with what you posted, I'm just trying to specify that the discussion that comes from it won't be positive, not that your original post is completely bubkes. People can see the videos, be informed, interpret it how they wish. but their opinions on the entirety of the government on top of this video are not going to change, but only clash, on an internet forum.

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Well it's 7 inches wide, so as much as I depend on it, it scares the crap out of me.
 

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But I don't want to die yet. :confused:
 

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I was going to say something witty, or possibly intelligent. But I really got nothing. All I know is that we've been living in a Golden Age, and at some point its going to end.
 

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If people can keep the personal attacks to a minimum I'll keep this thread open.

And Britain does quite fine without everyone being allowed to have a gun, so I don't see why America is so big on it.

But then again, I think there are more things in America than just that ridiculous amount of guns that are quite worrying / disturbing, such as the death penalty.

As for staying on track to the original topic, if anyone is really expecting America to suddenly imprison and kill millions of its citizens (and I can't even think of a reason it would possibly have for considering this), then they really need to get a better grip on reality...
 

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As for staying on track to the original topic, if anyone is really expecting America to suddenly imprison and kill millions of its citizens (and I can't even think of a reason it would possibly have for considering this), then they really need to get a better grip on reality...
Well, Germany got away with it for a while. . . *cough* We know how that worked out.
 

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As for staying on track to the original topic, if anyone is really expecting America to suddenly imprison and kill millions of its citizens (and I can't even think of a reason it would possibly have for considering this), then they really need to get a better grip on reality...
May not have killed them last time but we've done it before. *prods the Americans of Japanese descent*

As much as I think things are going wrong in this country (fucking socialism) Those coffins were stockpiled during the Influenza pandemic.
 

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May not have killed them last time but we've done it before. *prods the Americans of Japanese descent*

As much as I think things are going wrong in this country (fucking socialism) Those coffins were stockpiled during the Influenza pandemic.
 

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Chibi's right those coffins have been around for a long time, so have the prison camps. Most of which were are the concentration camps set up for the Japanese-Americans during WWII, or they are former or unused military bases that have been closed.
 

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Chibi's right those coffins have been around for a long time, so have the prison camps. Most of which were are the concentration camps set up for the Japanese-Americans during WWII, or they are former or unused military bases that have been closed.
The only thing worrysome about this whole thing is that these camps are still guarded heavily.
 

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Well that could have to do with the fact America is trying to put in more work towards rehabilitation, considering the whole imprisonment and let loose thing isn't working and they've been trying to move to new facilities, moving prisoners and shit like that.
We base our policies on the most popular theory of criminality at the time and each generation brings along new theories which all have their discredits, which, in turn, calls for the new generation to come up with a new theory. Part of our cycle really.

And there's plenty of violence across societies, doesn't matter if they have guns or not. I like the concealed laws because it leaves a lot of freedom between people and little choice for someone who decides to attack someone else on the street. Gun attacks are highest in places that have stricter gun laws. In the United Kingdom, there's free health care and no guns, so you can go after anyone, knowing they won't kill you and you don't have a lot to lose, while America, the next guy has the possibility of shooting you and you have to avoid any injury, in case of medical bills.
Obvious oversimplifying, but the basic point still comes across
 

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Now i'm no expert on sociology and i haven't done a huge amount of research, but i'm pretty sure gun attacks aren't highest in places that have huge gun control. Australia has much higher gun control than America and gun attacks are reasonably insignificant here, compared to America where we ship our army medics to get training in how to treat gunshot wounds.

I think the amount of violence in America is due to deeper set sociological problems than just gun control or the availability of health care. I would continue this train of thought but it would just be worthless conjecture from here on out.
 

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In the United Kingdom, there's free health care and no guns, so you can go after anyone, knowing they won't kill you and you don't have a lot to lose, while America, the next guy has the possibility of shooting you and you have to avoid any injury, in case of medical bills.
Obvious oversimplifying, but the basic point still comes across
Unsure about this. If I had to mug someone, I would much rather pull a gun on someone who might be armed from a foot or two away - I would be confident I could shoot before they could pull a gun on me. However, when you pull a knife on someone you risk them being more skilled in self defence than you - I'm pretty sure if I tried to pull a knife on a black belt of most martial arts I'd find myself with a knife to my neck before I knew what had happened.
 
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Bruce Lee once said, "If someone pulls out a knife on you, they're at a disadvantage, because they are only thinking with one weapon, while you have four." So yeah, in other words, I agree with Aika.
 

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Now i'm no expert on sociology and i haven't done a huge amount of research, but i'm pretty sure gun attacks aren't highest in places that have huge gun control. Australia has much higher gun control than America and gun attacks are reasonably insignificant here, compared to America where we ship our army medics to get training in how to treat gunshot wounds.

I think the amount of violence in America is due to deeper set sociological problems than just gun control or the availability of health care. I would continue this train of thought but it would just be worthless conjecture from here on out.
I meant in terms of inside America, there are literally guns everywhere here, so I think the laws, or lack therof are not really comparable.
Legally owned guns in America to Australia: at least 235,000,000(10 years ago, sorry didn't get a number of anything recent): 4.25 million
Population 304,000,000:21,000,000

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Unsure about this. If I had to mug someone, I would much rather pull a gun on someone who might be armed from a foot or two away - I would be confident I could shoot before they could pull a gun on me. However, when you pull a knife on someone you risk them being more skilled in self defence than you - I'm pretty sure if I tried to pull a knife on a black belt of most martial arts I'd find myself with a knife to my neck before I knew what had happened.
Anyone who is versed in self-defense knows the true danger of fighting someone off that has a knife and knows how to use it. Any idiot can buy and use a gun, what is the risk of running into someone who knows self-defense to such a degree, they can successfully defend themselves against a knife. And we have certain laws that prevent those with such training of killing in self-defense because they should know better, so the situation of getting your own knife turned on you most likely won't end in your death while the gun will.

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Bruce Lee once said, "If someone pulls out a knife on you, they're at a disadvantage, because they are only thinking with one weapon, while you have four." So yeah, in other words, I agree with Aika.
People who don't know how to use knives, or any melee weapon. I made the same argument with me and my friends making "Rules of Cinema," one of which was The villain always can hold his own with the hero, but the second he picks up a weapon he's dead. And yeah, that's for those looking for a killing blow, but all self-defense/martial arts teaches that the guy mugging you is not trying to kill you, or else he would have.
 
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Re: Time to get the fuck out of the US or stand up and fight

And there's plenty of violence across societies, doesn't matter if they have guns or not. I like the concealed laws because it leaves a lot of freedom between people and little choice for someone who decides to attack someone else on the street. Gun attacks are highest in places that have stricter gun laws. In the United Kingdom, there's free health care and no guns, so you can go after anyone, knowing they won't kill you and you don't have a lot to lose, while America, the next guy has the possibility of shooting you and you have to avoid any injury, in case of medical bills.
Obvious oversimplifying, but the basic point still comes across
This is simply not true. Norway also has very strict gun control laws, and gun crime here is almost nonexistant. Your point is obviosly that if both attacker and attacked has guns, the attacker won't attempt to do anything. The much simpler solution, however, is simply to ensure that the criminals do not have guns.

But I do agree with you at one point:

In the US you need a gun for protection, as the Second Amendment guarantees that every criminal has a gun.
 

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Yes, because the man with intent to kill you really cares about the five years they might get for having a gun.
 

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Re: Time to get the fuck out of the US or stand up and fight

The biggest problem with America is the whole choice of censorship thing:

Movie with shitloads of blood and gore would be a top hit and might only be rated teen.

Movie with a single female nipple showing with be adult only and offend countless idiots.

Mayhap, they should worry more about the violence rather than the nudity?
 
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