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ACT Guro [D-lis] Night of Revenge / 魔女は復讐の夜に (RJ405582)


shineek said:
At first i like the game very much, but not anymore, i dont like where this is going. I really hate how a lot of hentai games recently are nothing more than animation or cg galleries with boring and pointless gameplay. Game is still so easy its boring, there are no punishments for being raped by the monsters or for losing clothing, and you still can get out of the animation with pressing just one button. For now its neither really a game nor is it something worth any money.
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Hmm I mean the gameplay's more polished than most action h games I've played and it's not finished yet. I'll be honest, I loathe getting to see the animations a punishment, maybe certain ones, but it's a H game, kinda the point to see them, and the only difference for escaping is one button rather than alternating between left and right buttons. Given the past several updates it's obvious the dev's blocking out the game world first and foremost and is likely planning to add stuff like conditions when clothings ripped (my guess is enemies will be able to do h animations without you being on the ground or something) etc etc

To make a statement that it's not a game is too silly to even begin taking a part, to say it's not worth any money when it's not finished just screams entitlement or just plain whinging.
 
shineek said:
At first i like the game very much, but not anymore, i dont like where this is going. I really hate how a lot of hentai games recently are nothing more than animation or cg galleries with boring and pointless gameplay. Game is still so easy its boring, there are no punishments for being raped by the monsters or for losing clothing, and you still can get out of the animation with pressing just one button. For now its neither really a game nor is it something worth any money.
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To be fair most H-Games are rather easy.... I rarely played H-Games that are hard. But yeah what the others said is right. The game is not even out yet and still in development.
 
I am happy with the rape system, i dislike how many games have this insta-game over rape or one rape at max before dying. And to be fair, most of the time one is actively looking to get her raped since it's quite easy to block / avoid and the enemy knock-up animation is different as well, so it makes sense that it's easy to get away from it with 2 clicks. I agree though that certain animations should do damage to her since some rapes are quite brutal, but I still find it ok this way.
 
I've already list this treat as my watchlist...
so why there's no notification?

btw can anyone tell me what's new in 0.20?
 
XziebertX said:
I've already list this treat as my watchlist...
so why there's no notification?

btw can anyone tell me what's new in 0.20?
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from what i remeber there is one new animation, and one new save point, there are some more additions but i dont remember them.
 
From the degree of movement you have available, I would personally remove the slowdown effect on dodging when playing on Very Hard and how dodging attacks successfully "nullifies" them, then you'd actually have to learn the timing instead of just dodging early

That, and it would actually make blocking relevant outside of parrying.
 
Zerrest said:
From the degree of movement you have available, I would personally remove the slowdown effect on dodging when playing on Very Hard and how dodging attacks successfully "nullifies" them, then you'd actually have to learn the timing instead of just dodging early

That, and it would actually make blocking relevant outside of parrying.
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Lessening i-frames on dodges in proportion with the difficulty would probably be a decent way to go about it. The game has a perfect-block system, but I doubt anyone uses it because dodging dodges just as much damage.
 
Noble 6 said:
Lessening i-frames on dodges in proportion with the difficulty would probably be a decent way to go about it. The game has a perfect-block system, but I doubt anyone uses it because dodging dodges just as much damage.
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I'd like to block more just from the frame advantage you get on perfect guards, but it requires me to be more reactive and less proactive since I can't cancel my attacks into guards like I can with dashes, but maybe I could see myself using blocking more with an ultra greatsword, maybe.
 
DarkFire1004 said:
By the same vein, he doesn't have to listen to your opinion. He's free to say whatever he wants about the game, critical or not. In your own words, don't complain just because his opinion doesn't fit YOUR agenda.
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Agreed, but I'm not talking about my own opinion.
I'm saying that it's one thing to "critique" an honest issue and another to just "complain" about something with no real guidance whatsoever-- The main difference between the two being that "critiquing" is adapting a situation and "complaining" is moreso saying "Things aren't going my way so this sucks" and leaving it at that.
 
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For one, I have no idea how you're getting that from what he wrote. He said the game was too easy and that it's more or less a CG viewer. Exactly what is he supposed to "adapt" to? Finding a different game? That isn't adapting; that's removing yourself from the situation entirely. How does that solve anything other than ensuring that this thread turns into an echo chamber?

Secondly, how in the world is that your definition of criticism? Criticising is to offer an opinion based on observation and is usually dissenting or recognizes faults. At no point is there any call to action, like you're suggesting. The REAL difference between criticizing and complaining is a matter of how much of a basis one has in their arguments, and how well they present their ideas. Does that mean that guy could be considered complaining? Sure. Does that mean his opinion can be dismissed and told he shouldn't be sharing it at all? Fuck no.

The logic works both ways. You think he's whining and complaining about the game with no real basis, and therefore shouldn't share his opinion. He can just as easily think that your opinion on the game is unjustifiably positive, and therefore you shouldn't share your opinion. If a rule like that existed, a lot of threads would suddenly be quite devoid on any posts.

If you really think that he's complaining with no real basis, how about engaging in discourse, rather than dismissing him entirely? Moderated, calm discussion is a lot healthier for everybody than telling him to get lost.
 
I dont really care what they write, ive stated my opinion and i dismiss any posts thats just trying to be toxic and attacking me, instead trying to turn into a proper discussion. People like that are in every community, and sadly as of recent they are in the majority of most communities. Unable to accept others opinions, thinking their tastes are godlike and they need to be revered for that, and anyone who does not agree with their tastes should not even be alive.

BTW when i said easy i mean so easy that its boring, from start to first boss i didnt lose any HP and the boss didnt even hit me once. Im not saying the game has to have difficulty of Dark Souls, but at least be somewhat harder, at least to the level where you will see hentai scenes without losing on purpose just to see tham, because at this point, when you lose a game to see an erotic scene its not a game anymore but a tool to view cgs and animations. An example, Ghost Hunter Vena, not a hard game, but not really easy, there where points where many seen the hentai scenes because they lost not on purpose.

Someone said its not out yet and maybe the author is making the setting first than hes gonna focus on the gameplay, but that beats the purpose of him releasing this each time and calling it a game, since for around 4 or 5 updates nothing was done with the gameplay and only locations and scenes added, which is exactly my point, you dont need more locations and hentai animations in a game that has almost no gameplay.
 
shineek said:
I dont really care what they write, ive stated my opinion and i dismiss any posts thats just trying to be toxic and attacking me, instead trying to turn into a proper discussion. People like that are in every community, and sadly as of recent they are in the majority of most communities. Unable to accept others opinions, thinking their tastes are godlike and they need to be revered for that, and anyone who does not agree with their tastes should not even be alive.

BTW when i said easy i mean so easy that its boring, from start to first boss i didnt lose any HP and the boss didnt even hit me once. Im not saying the game has to have difficulty of Dark Souls, but at least be somewhat harder, at least to the level where you will see hentai scenes without losing on purpose just to see tham, because at this point, when you lose a game to see an erotic scene its not a game anymore but a tool to view cgs and animations. An example, Ghost Hunter Vena, not a hard game, but not really easy, there where points where many seen the hentai scenes because they lost not on purpose.

Someone said its not out yet and maybe the author is making the setting first than hes gonna focus on the gameplay, but that beats the purpose of him releasing this each time and calling it a game, since for around 4 or 5 updates nothing was done with the gameplay and only locations and scenes added, which is exactly my point, you dont need more locations and hentai animations in a game that has almost no gameplay.
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I understand your point with the difficulty being on a level were you basically throw yourself into the enemys arms to see an Animation! I understand what you are criticising. I personally just believe that because the game is still not completely out yet everything can still be changed within the combat and more.

I dont really know exactly but is it possible to somehow maybe talk with the Creator about combat ? Im kinda new here so I dont know if the Information already was given and im too lazy to read so many pages uwu.
Maybe I should have wrote a bit more then the one sentence I did. I also agree with you that there has to be punishment when getting raped! Idk maybe like her Mind is weakened and therefor maybe attacks and moves slower and attacks are weaker ? Idk what would you say for Punishment after getting raped ?

Ah right and im sorry if you took my message negatively, that wasn´t my intention! I just wanted to share my view that I believe that many games are easy ( Even as easy as you said that you have to lose on purpose )
 
shineek said:
At first i like the game very much, but not anymore, i dont like where this is going. I really hate how a lot of hentai games recently are nothing more than animation or cg galleries with boring and pointless gameplay. Game is still so easy its boring, there are no punishments for being raped by the monsters or for losing clothing, and you still can get out of the animation with pressing just one button. For now its neither really a game nor is it something worth any money.
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Yeah, while the hentai is nice and all, I'd like to have fun as well. I know of the joke of going to porn for the story, but with a game it's very different. Games for many are for enjoyment and immersion. That's why I love Zell23's FOBS. If you want to see the hentai, you either have to just let yourself get caught and die which kicks you back to the respawn point (and erases your progress that you didn't save), or you EARN it which is very satisfying.
 
Basic mobs are quite on the easy side, yes. Bosses show a fairly more nuanced approach, but the basic difficulty level is stil rather easy (of course, if you don't abuse the difficulty system and enjoy Very Hard Candore raping you).

His previous game, Bullet Requiem, had particularly in the boss fights quite the difficulty spikes, with several levels managing to be fairly difficult (fucking Canyons) or maze-like (Library). NoR is far more.... relaxed in approach, and it's fairly easier. I'm not particularly willing to complain though, nowadays I play mostly for relax, and NoR's gameplay, while basic, is amusing enough to keep me interested. It's like playing cheapo Bloodstained, with the perk that this one is out.

Furthermore, saying that nothing was done about the gameplay is flat-out wrong: new enemies require add variety to combat encounters by themselves and the last area has some amusing mechanics with bells. I guess you can easily bruteforce them, but for example the Corpse Mass or whateverthenameis is an interesting approach as you can't kill it with stock weapons and you require Holy damage (arguably a copied Dark Souls mechanic, but it shows.... creativity.).

Well, as I'm not paying for the game I guess it's easy to defend it.
 
Give the game more time to develop. Sure, it takes around a month per new content, but in the long run, it'll come out as fun and full of delicious H-action. As it is now, it's enjoyable. The animations are nice, the battles are nice, and the enemies have a variety of attacks. Just gotta stay away for awhile until it's all done. XD
 
shineek said:
At first i like the game very much, but not anymore, i dont like where this is going. I really hate how a lot of hentai games recently are nothing more than animation or cg galleries with boring and pointless gameplay. Game is still so easy its boring, there are no punishments for being raped by the monsters or for losing clothing, and you still can get out of the animation with pressing just one button. For now its neither really a game nor is it something worth any money.
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I understand and respect your thoughts, but.. The game is still alpha, Dlis is working his ass off to add content to the demos you play (For free, because I highly doubt you're supporting him on fantia/ci-en). The actual game already has a shitton of content, and he's still adding stuff. I understand you not liking the gameplay, I personally also dislike souls-style games, but atleast he added gameplay. Unlike most games in the currently really RPG saturated hentai game market, which don't even change the basic mechanics of RPGMaker, and just slap some art to the game and call it a game... Honestly tired as shit of low quality h-games, no wonder people pirate them (including me)

I'd say give this game some more time, it can only get better. But if you still dislike it, then that's ok, because we can't all share the same sentiment towards something.

With all that said, I haven't played since 0.18 and I'm jumping into 0.20 just now
 
Memory said:
On a more positive note, who wants to speculate on what the priest enemies' H-attack will be? :D I'm speculating mind control.
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I'd want mind control for like a haunted mansion, with a mask forcing itself on her.
The priests will probably just be more bondage and whipping like the sinner slaves.
 
Noble 6 said:
I'd want mind control for like a haunted mansion, with a mask forcing itself on her.
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Oh, yes! :D Now that would be an awesome addition! This game doesn't have any small flying enemies as of yet, so something like this would be like fighting the Medusa Heads in Castlevania. (But with Bloodborne rules!)
 
Memory said:
Oh, yes! :D Now that would be an awesome addition! This game doesn't have any small flying enemies as of yet, so something like this would be like fighting the Medusa Heads in Castlevania. (But with Bloodborne rules!)
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I don't remember Bullet Requiem having any flying enemies, so I don't know if he knows how to make any.
That said, he could fake a floating effect by just having a very tall empty space before the floating mask or whatever.
 
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