WRPGs or JRPGs?
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Re: WRPGs or JRPGs?
I gotta go with the WRPGs. Not to say that there are no amazing JRPGs (Tales of Symphonia) but I prefer the heroes to look the part and not like children or with hair that defies gravity.
I gotta go with the WRPGs. Not to say that there are no amazing JRPGs (Tales of Symphonia) but I prefer the heroes to look the part and not like children or with hair that defies gravity.
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Both have their strengths. wrpgs are usually more open and open-ended, so you can do what you want and go where you want without much difficulty. jrpgs are much more linear and story driven, but the stories are so epic that you forget yourself in them and can't wait to see what happens next. I won't pick one over the other.
Both have their strengths. wrpgs are usually more open and open-ended, so you can do what you want and go where you want without much difficulty. jrpgs are much more linear and story driven, but the stories are so epic that you forget yourself in them and can't wait to see what happens next. I won't pick one over the other.
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There is no spoon here, folks
Yush. For exibit 1, GTA series. Exibit 2, FF series.
There is no spoon here, folks
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I'd have preorded P4, save for the nagging thought that a friend or family member might decide it'd be a good christmas gift.
Honestly - I like JRPGs better. Yes, a WRPG offers a huge expansive world for you to explore and kills stuff in - but I find it's frequently too open. Being able to explore a bit is nice. Being able to get lost and not even know where the next bit of story IS for over an hour isn't.
I'd have preorded P4, save for the nagging thought that a friend or family member might decide it'd be a good christmas gift.
Honestly - I like JRPGs better. Yes, a WRPG offers a huge expansive world for you to explore and kills stuff in - but I find it's frequently too open. Being able to explore a bit is nice. Being able to get lost and not even know where the next bit of story IS for over an hour isn't.
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i was just gonna quote for truth what newbie said but enough people have done that.
GTA is a roleplaying game... actualy most games are role playing games as you are assuming a role. RPG does not stand for roll playing game (unless your into rolls in THAT way) so it doesn't need dice or fancy systems. but you can see most of the aspects of role playing games in san aundreas, then you realise that adding in getting better at stuff doesn't turn an action/driver/shooter into an RPG... it must have been that already to some extent.
at then end of the day you seem to be able to do more with the standard western RPG but japo RPGs get the better end of the stick when it comes to their capability to tell stories easily (not that these stories are good all the time or you don't get that in WRPGs, its just easier). this leaves me personally going through a lot of JRPGs reasonably fast but spending a lot of time on the quality WRPGs like oblivion with guns and pretty much anything done by black isle.
i was just gonna quote for truth what newbie said but enough people have done that.
GTA is a roleplaying game... actualy most games are role playing games as you are assuming a role. RPG does not stand for roll playing game (unless your into rolls in THAT way) so it doesn't need dice or fancy systems. but you can see most of the aspects of role playing games in san aundreas, then you realise that adding in getting better at stuff doesn't turn an action/driver/shooter into an RPG... it must have been that already to some extent.
at then end of the day you seem to be able to do more with the standard western RPG but japo RPGs get the better end of the stick when it comes to their capability to tell stories easily (not that these stories are good all the time or you don't get that in WRPGs, its just easier). this leaves me personally going through a lot of JRPGs reasonably fast but spending a lot of time on the quality WRPGs like oblivion with guns and pretty much anything done by black isle.
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Re: WRPGs or JRPGs?
As a longstanding fan of the FF and Suikoden series, I have to go with JRPGs. Not to say I don't care for WRPGs (I was playing Neverwinter Nights so much my mother asked if it actually had an ending...) but I don't get to play them very often.
I will have to tell my gaming partner of the love of Persona here. He enjoys the series very much.
As a longstanding fan of the FF and Suikoden series, I have to go with JRPGs. Not to say I don't care for WRPGs (I was playing Neverwinter Nights so much my mother asked if it actually had an ending...) but I don't get to play them very often.
I will have to tell my gaming partner of the love of Persona here. He enjoys the series very much.
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A few reasons I like JRPGs are that the story, if good, will make the game that much more fun, and on a 2nd note: Awesome graphic. The 3rd thing is that there's a lot of extra stuff. 4th = humor- lots of it. #5 is cause they are based more upon fantasy like a swordsman slicing up a gun at extreme speed. A6: Interaction between characters are a important factor, I mean killing all the civilians with a nuke is fun, but how about talking to them? Seven: I feel more... emotions? From the JRPGs? I've had a game almost break me into tears before, and it never happened with any WRPGs I played which also supports my 1st reason.
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A few reasons I like JRPGs are that the story, if good, will make the game that much more fun, and on a 2nd note: Awesome graphic. The 3rd thing is that there's a lot of extra stuff. 4th = humor- lots of it. #5 is cause they are based more upon fantasy like a swordsman slicing up a gun at extreme speed. A6: Interaction between characters are a important factor, I mean killing all the civilians with a nuke is fun, but how about talking to them? Seven: I feel more... emotions? From the JRPGs? I've had a game almost break me into tears before, and it never happened with any WRPGs I played which also supports my 1st reason.
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1. story, reasonably legitimate, i already said that their normal linear format is good for telling stories.
2. awesome graphics... please just no... there are plenty of those on both sides as well as plenty of shockers.
3. often i find that this goes the other way around. i mean one thing i can give to the japs on this point is that their systems are often quite in depth but they don't cover a lot of breadth and i doubt they would beat western RPGs on average content level.
4. humour... depends on the writing... i've seen some pretty funny things happen on both sides of the fence. Things like in the earlier fallouts, planescape and similar things have plenty of laughs (such as convincing a person that they don't logically exist and there fore they fliter out of reality)
5. setting? come on dude, most RPGs on both sides are sword play. if anything western stuff is more in line with fantasy but i cant back that up.
6. if you want interactions between characters then play western stuff. interaction isn't watching a cut scene where your character does the talking for you. if you mean interaction like there is character development then that really depends on the game, i've seen plenty of good stuff either side.
7. emotion, well thats another thing you might be right on, the linear story line can tug the heart strings a little more (although a lot of people dont think so, i'm not one of them)
okay... now i'm going to break this down point by point just because its ignorance...
1. story, reasonably legitimate, i already said that their normal linear format is good for telling stories.
2. awesome graphics... please just no... there are plenty of those on both sides as well as plenty of shockers.
3. often i find that this goes the other way around. i mean one thing i can give to the japs on this point is that their systems are often quite in depth but they don't cover a lot of breadth and i doubt they would beat western RPGs on average content level.
4. humour... depends on the writing... i've seen some pretty funny things happen on both sides of the fence. Things like in the earlier fallouts, planescape and similar things have plenty of laughs (such as convincing a person that they don't logically exist and there fore they fliter out of reality)
5. setting? come on dude, most RPGs on both sides are sword play. if anything western stuff is more in line with fantasy but i cant back that up.
6. if you want interactions between characters then play western stuff. interaction isn't watching a cut scene where your character does the talking for you. if you mean interaction like there is character development then that really depends on the game, i've seen plenty of good stuff either side.
7. emotion, well thats another thing you might be right on, the linear story line can tug the heart strings a little more (although a lot of people dont think so, i'm not one of them)
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Re: WRPGs or JRPGs?
One word:
Fable.
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But because I know that won't end the thread, I'm going to add this:
Does anyone else feel like the FF series went to hell after FFVI? Probably not, everyone else I've asked thinks VII is the Z0MG GREATEST FF EVAR, but I tend to disagree. I did not care for VII or later.
Except for the porn.
One word:
Fable.
/thread
But because I know that won't end the thread, I'm going to add this:
Does anyone else feel like the FF series went to hell after FFVI? Probably not, everyone else I've asked thinks VII is the Z0MG GREATEST FF EVAR, but I tend to disagree. I did not care for VII or later.
Except for the porn.
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fable is good yes
final fantasy... i liked it up to 10 (even if it was a movie). after squenix took over then it died. although i have to say 7 and 8 have aged quite well... 9 not so much due to its lagyness. and i think the general consensus is that 8 is better than 7, its just that people who like 7 are louder about it.
fable is good yes
final fantasy... i liked it up to 10 (even if it was a movie). after squenix took over then it died. although i have to say 7 and 8 have aged quite well... 9 not so much due to its lagyness. and i think the general consensus is that 8 is better than 7, its just that people who like 7 are louder about it.
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The reason 7 gets so much credit is because it was the first FF, and possibly the first of it's genre (not sure), to be in 3d. Face it, Sephiroth sucked. He was a goon, a sidekick, with little drive or motive or character. He was little more than an over-powered mama's boy.
The reason 7 gets so much credit is because it was the first FF, and possibly the first of it's genre (not sure), to be in 3d. Face it, Sephiroth sucked. He was a goon, a sidekick, with little drive or motive or character. He was little more than an over-powered mama's boy.
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Yeah, I have to go with Western RPGs. I haven't been able to play a JRPG for more than an hour since the first Playstation came out, except for Ogre Battle 64. There are good ones, like Earthbound and the early Final Fantasies, but Morrowind single handedly trumps them all in terms of longevity and entertainment for me. I prefer the open endedness, because I like actually being able to make choices and not be forced into a role that I usually don't want to play. That, and JRPG bad guys always suck. Yes, that includes Sephiroth.
Yeah, I have to go with Western RPGs. I haven't been able to play a JRPG for more than an hour since the first Playstation came out, except for Ogre Battle 64. There are good ones, like Earthbound and the early Final Fantasies, but Morrowind single handedly trumps them all in terms of longevity and entertainment for me. I prefer the open endedness, because I like actually being able to make choices and not be forced into a role that I usually don't want to play. That, and JRPG bad guys always suck. Yes, that includes Sephiroth.
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