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Re: Alansya Chronicles - Fleeting Iris (Former Ayame's Adventure)

Was going to try that, i am just not sure patreon is accepting cards from my country =S, but is worth a try since sometimes those things change constantly, BTW the demo version is v0.50b right? what is the current patreon version? just out of curiosity

it should be 0.67b if i remember correct
 
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I have a question that i hope doesnt bring trouble, but i was wondering if the so to speak dlc with optional content that was mentioned quite some time ago is something that will still happen and if it is still in place will it be free to download?
 
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it should be 0.67b if i remember correct

The demo version is 0.5 something mmmmm, is hard to know how advanced it is compared to the demo, the game will only be considered V 1.0 once is out right?
 
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The demo version is 0.5 something mmmmm, is hard to know how advanced it is compared to the demo, the game will only be considered V 1.0 once is out right?

Probably, but this means nothing. They could consider this an Alpha 0.5. Or they could count characters introduction and map building as half the work.
 
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This is actually funny, there are more than 50 patreon games and no one are finished, but the ppl still having hopes, the only game that i played full is Noxian Nights, the only one that are finished , this is a pity, the ppl earn money from stupid ppl like the government, each day comes out a new ver 0.1 from a new game, and the ppl forgot that there are 50 games since 2013 unfinished hahaha really guys, are u dumbass? where are Sarah's Life? impure left the project 100% sure, heavenstudios will do too , time to time.

Then I am dumbass. I am a dumbass for spending my money the way I want.
Even assuming Heaven Studios will ditch and milk people I will find another dev to support. Sooner or later someone will realize that they can get more money by delivering and selling the game. Even if it's 1 out of 10 devs.

Because what else do we have? Japanese devs that don't really care about the west? Or are so scared of loud puppies that they censor/refuse to release games outside of Japan? There is a limit on how many games can be translated... Look at that, they only translate and how long it takes? Do new games from each Japanese circle pops up every month? I don't think so.

People give their trust/money, no one forces them to do so.
Even so... 5k USD? That's just like... 4.5k EUR? For 3 people? Monthly? 1.5k EUR for each person? That's below average in most EU countries.
Hardly enough to even start saving something, if that's a milking then it's rather a crappy one when you can get more money by doing other work.

If you see a problem with a dev, state your facts, show why you think it's stupid, that's a valid way. Calling people dumbasses never worked. Making people realize that they did something stupid works. That's pretty much it.

But I am a dumbass, so what do I know?
 
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This is actually funny, there are more than 50 patreon games and no one are finished, but the ppl still having hopes, the only game that i played full is Noxian Nights, the only one that are finished , this is a pity, the ppl earn money from stupid ppl like the government, each day comes out a new ver 0.1 from a new game, and the ppl forgot that there are 50 games since 2013 unfinished hahaha really guys, are u dumbass? where are Sarah's Life? impure left the project 100% sure, heavenstudios will do too , time to time.

I'm supporting Vortex00, and they have completed 2 full games, a host of small games, continuing to update one of the completed games and working on another full game....and make pretty good progress per month.

I'm supporting Marble Syrup, who has also completed 2 games, was updating one game until just recently and is working on a 3rd game.

I'm supporting pinoytoons, who has created tons of animated shorts and mini games, helped with a full game and is now creating his own game.

While I can't disagree that there are some crooks out there scamming people and stupid people who take the bait (example, the tragedy of breeding season). There are also those who have and continuing to make it worth me spending a mere 1-5 bucks a month. If you fail to see them, it's your own mistake.
 
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I have a question that i hope doesnt bring trouble, but i was wondering if the so to speak dlc with optional content that was mentioned quite some time ago is something that will still happen and if it is still in place will it be free to download?

Yes, absolutely free.

Also, Combi is not failing to see anything, he just comes here to derail the thread, get his posts deleted, and eventually banned as his multiple previous accounts, funny how he was doggying over Sarah's Life which was a garbage game from any perspective you could look at it, the author stole maps and tilesets, the game had pretty much no flow, the game had worse grammar than if you put the russian text in google translate and paste it into the game, the maps were made with such quality that a 6 year old would do better, the whole code was a God damn mess if you bothered to look at it, he pretty much created a map for each event so by the 7th day he has like 20 "home" maps, the autor didn't give a shit about minor details like removing the RTP face from the profile and place one from Sarah (which would take 30 seconds to do), barely released any updates, I don't understand how could anyone not understand that was a cash cow.

My Demo was bigger than his entire game and our art was hand drawn, not just placing renders from already existing packs that you can purchase online together, but just for the sake of trolling all the other patreons, he was saying that game was amazing, and everything else was garbage, and now the autor of said game took the money and ran without a single justification. Also, we are not only creators, I actually follow 7 people on Patreon, its down for maintenance but from the top of my mind: YummyTiger, Reepyr, Dystopian Project, Key', Hreinn Games, Icstor and a few others, obviously there's gonna be garbage, but to be fair, they're really NOT that hard to spot, I called most of the games that died before they died, doesn't make me a magician, it's just that I have a nicer bullshit detector, specially from a developer point of view.

You decided to support someone that had no background, posted a clear cash cow short game with ridiculous money grab tiers, who was mocked by anyone that has been in this community for a while, and got ripped. Comparing him to us who've been around for 6 years and have done more or at least as much for the RPG Maker Hentai community than virtually anyone else, it's just funny.
 
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I don't even want to go mini-mod because I neither possess the authority and don't really care to throw my weight around either way. I just wanted to look at the new content on dlsite and elsewhere (how about that FOBS, guys?) and weigh in my first impressions. Unfortunately, your thread was on the front page and, as predicted, you wrote a 5-book series on how someone else is wrong, blah blah blah, etc. I'm coming off as a dick because it's getting annoying to see your threads on the front page every other week, with some drama and you at the center trying to stir the shit pot. I'm sure it's not intentional and you're working hard outside these little spats, but do you need to respond to every Tom, Dick, and Harry that steps on your toes?

Before you answer, consider this: The adult gaming industry, as niche as it is, is over-saturated with patreon games. Everyone and their dog has a patreon, goes to forums (like this) and then begs for support while producing either little between updates, or running up the good-will tab until people become embittered and annoyed and want to shoot someone. You're not innocent of stepping on toes, either; but, that doesn't mean you deserve the harassment, either. Unfortunately, your responses don't deter them, and only play to what they want. You're being baited, son, and like a fish, you've chomped on the hook and aren't letting go.

Playing devil's advocate here, consumers are also entitled pricks who need to back off sometimes. I'll admit to some badgering an asshole-ish behavior, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong to point it out, either. You're always going to have people who wanted something from your game and were dissatisfied with the end product, and will wage war as a result. Those people want to shit in the soup and then whine when it doesn't take like french onion in a bread bowl. You gotta ignore them and move along, cause responding to their shit isn't making you any friends. At one point, people are apt to witness your responses on a regular basis and re-consider supporting your game if they only invite drama.

I have a bad opinion of you, of your circle, and your game. I avoid your threads as much as possible, try to avoid replying, and honestly, I think the forums could do with a good ol' Crusade, starting with you. But, I also know if the admins purge this forum, there will be less traffic and less access to content and less reason for developers to continue on their projects and even despite the multitude of coal, there are a few glittering diamonds. I hope you not only shoot this thing out of the ball-park, but manage to start immediately on another project with your funding doubled. I want to be proven wrong about this game and your group because it means more content down the road.

Let the admins do their jobs, and let your supporters respond in kind if they feel inclined. Keep it a priority that they don't get overtly-aggressive or hostile, but simply attack the key points of an argument in a respectful manner. The more positive you keep your surroundings, the easier it gets to keep truckin'.
 
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I don't even want to go mini-mod because I neither possess the authority and don't really care to throw my weight around either way. I just wanted to look at the new content on dlsite and elsewhere (how about that FOBS, guys?) and weigh in my first impressions. Unfortunately, your thread was on the front page and, as predicted, you wrote a 5-book series on how someone else is wrong, blah blah blah, etc. I'm coming off as a dick because it's getting annoying to see your threads on the front page every other week, with some drama and you at the center trying to stir the shit pot. I'm sure it's not intentional and you're working hard outside these little spats, but do you need to respond to every Tom, Dick, and Harry that steps on your toes?

Before you answer, consider this: The adult gaming industry, as niche as it is, is over-saturated with patreon games. Everyone and their dog has a patreon, goes to forums (like this) and then begs for support while producing either little between updates, or running up the good-will tab until people become embittered and annoyed and want to shoot someone. You're not innocent of stepping on toes, either; but, that doesn't mean you deserve the harassment, either. Unfortunately, your responses don't deter them, and only play to what they want. You're being baited, son, and like a fish, you've chomped on the hook and aren't letting go.

Playing devil's advocate here, consumers are also entitled pricks who need to back off sometimes. I'll admit to some badgering an asshole-ish behavior, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong to point it out, either. You're always going to have people who wanted something from your game and were dissatisfied with the end product, and will wage war as a result. Those people want to shit in the soup and then whine when it doesn't take like french onion in a bread bowl. You gotta ignore them and move along, cause responding to their shit isn't making you any friends. At one point, people are apt to witness your responses on a regular basis and re-consider supporting your game if they only invite drama.

I have a bad opinion of you, of your circle, and your game. I avoid your threads as much as possible, try to avoid replying, and honestly, I think the forums could do with a good ol' Crusade, starting with you. But, I also know if the admins purge this forum, there will be less traffic and less access to content and less reason for developers to continue on their projects and even despite the multitude of coal, there are a few glittering diamonds. I hope you not only shoot this thing out of the ball-park, but manage to start immediately on another project with your funding doubled. I want to be proven wrong about this game and your group because it means more content down the road.

Let the admins do their jobs, and let your supporters respond in kind if they feel inclined. Keep it a priority that they don't get overtly-aggressive or hostile, but simply attack the key points of an argument in a respectful manner. The more positive you keep your surroundings, the easier it gets to keep truckin'.

You make a good point but, check when's the last time (other than this one where I addressed Sarah's Life situation and patreon in general) where I actually took "any bait" or provocation and replied to it, you'll find that you're quite misinformed.
 
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You make a good point but, check when's the last time (other than this one where I addressed Sarah's Life situation and patreon in general) where I actually took "any bait" or provocation and replied to it, you'll find that you're quite misinformed.

I've never seen a single thread or "studio" benefit so much from the mods of this forum. They've done a great job of keeping your thread free of truth and real criticism. You should rename your "studio" to "Artful Dodger" because I've never seen a "studio" dodge accountability like yours does.

You use the words "studio", "professional", etc.

As a fellow game developer, I still to this day don't understand why so little gets done month in and month out on your game. Your development time is atrocious and the fact its in the medium of RPGMAKER has turned this into a running joke. To this day I think your game is a scam and you seek only to slowly dangle a carrot at the end of a long string.

You shouldn't be surprised by the attacks and hate you're getting, because it's WELL deserved.
 
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I am staying the hell away from the current discussion this time, i just wanted to ask if any of the games (or developers) mentioned above has games with NTR or corruption/moral degeneration content?
 
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I've never seen a single thread or "studio" benefit so much from the mods of this forum. They've done a great job of keeping your thread free of truth and real criticism. You should rename your "studio" to "Artful Dodger" because I've never seen a "studio" dodge accountability like yours does.

You use the words "studio", "professional", etc.

As a fellow game developer, I still to this day don't understand why so little gets done month in and month out on your game. Your development time is atrocious and the fact its in the medium of RPGMAKER has turned this into a running joke. To this day I think your game is a scam and you seek only to slowly dangle a carrot at the end of a long string.

You shouldn't be surprised by the attacks and hate you're getting, because it's WELL deserved.

Well, i hate to say it, because i like the early demo but i agree.

I played a game which was translated by rpgheaven, it's called To H, if i'm not mistaking and anything done in this current game comes directly from it.

So, watching rpgheaven bragging about his professional team whom does nothing is something funny.

And talking that way about another game developer (sarah's life dev) isn't going to make you any better.
By the way, even if sarah's life mapping is terrible, the artwork is really good and he released quite some content already.

I'm not sure you'll ever going to do as much as he did.
 
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Then I am dumbass. I am a dumbass for spending my money the way I want.
Even assuming Heaven Studios will ditch and milk people I will find another dev to support. Sooner or later someone will realize that they can get more money by delivering and selling the game. Even if it's 1 out of 10 devs.

Because what else do we have? Japanese devs that don't really care about the west? Or are so scared of loud puppies that they censor/refuse to release games outside of Japan? There is a limit on how many games can be translated... Look at that, they only translate and how long it takes? Do new games from each Japanese circle pops up every month? I don't think so.

People give their trust/money, no one forces them to do so.
Even so... 5k USD? That's just like... 4.5k EUR? For 3 people? Monthly? 1.5k EUR for each person? That's below average in most EU countries.
Hardly enough to even start saving something, if that's a milking then it's rather a crappy one when you can get more money by doing other work.

If you see a problem with a dev, state your facts, show why you think it's stupid, that's a valid way. Calling people dumbasses never worked. Making people realize that they did something stupid works. That's pretty much it.

But I am a dumbass, so what do I know?

Average here is 200 euros. Sorry for spam, couldn't help myself not to comment that :p
 
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I have to say I appreciated hrpgheaven's post about Patreon and Impure. It contains a nice insight on how to see if a creator really has a plan for his work or if he's only milking people. I agree with it, because I also thought Sarah's Life was a bad game and I didn't trust Impure's way of dealing Patreon.

Anyway, about Alansya's Chronicles. I've only played the demo so far (when it was still called Ayame's Adventure) and I really enjoyed what I've seen from it.

The people working on it seem to understand what NTR means and made a nice build up for the NTR to happen in the future. Not like some games out there that are said to be netorare, but there isn't anything near it on them, only pure cheating.

I'll wait for a couple more updates to see how people react to it and to decide if I'll support the Author or not.
 
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The idea is good and the art is one of the best out of porn games on Patreon but the amount of content released monthly(lol) is questionable. There is a lot of misinformation, false promises and missed deadlines. It remains to be seen whether its a scam or not, i guess i will wait a few months before i make up my mind.
Hopefully they are the real deal in hgames business because i much prefer high quality 2D drawings over these 3D mannequins many porn creators use in their games.
 
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Average here is 200 euros. Sorry for spam, couldn't help myself not to comment that :p

I am aware of hard line of average income dividing west and east EU. I did jump ahead and said most, pretty much forgetting about the east (no hard feelings, very personal reasons).
I should correct myself and say, 50% of EU countries. I am sorry for clouding myself, due to "stuff". I am not going to dodge something that I screwed up myself.

Still, based on their posts and what they say, I am assuming HS is from west EU. That's why I don't think they are milking if they can get much more by delivering the game.

Also, 1 year or 2 years isn't that long for small indie game to be delivered.

The idea is good and the art is one of the best out of porn games on Patreon but the amount of content released monthly(lol) is questionable. There is a lot of misinformation, false promises and missed deadlines.

I wouldn't be shocked if their project management was just shit xD
Just saying, because where I am coming from, I always get the feeling that people don't even know what "project management" is :p

Personally I wouldn't mind a peek to know how it's managed :D
And if that's have been posted, I probably just didn't see it.
 
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Well, i hate to say it, because i like the early demo but i agree.

I played a game which was translated by rpgheaven, it's called To H, if i'm not mistaking and anything done in this current game comes directly from it.

So, watching rpgheaven bragging about his professional team whom does nothing is something funny.

And talking that way about another game developer (sarah's life dev) isn't going to make you any better.
By the way, even if sarah's life mapping is terrible, the artwork is really good and he released quite some content already.

I'm not sure you'll ever going to do as much as he did.

That's your opinion, my opinion is that Sarah's Life game is dreadful from any perspective you look at it, it had 5 patches with less content gradually each time, it had no focus but bimbo wife gets fucked by everything with a heartbeat, it was 3D art which while it's nice when it's done well, takes faaaar less time to render than it takes to draw art from scratch (simple fact), it barely had any content story wise or plot, she was a super slut that only figured out how slutty she was well into her marriage as if every guy ever didn't try to get into her pants before, I say this because the H-scenes happen for the dumbest possible reasons imaginable. The game brought absolutely nothing new to the scene, not a new story, nor mechanics, hardly it could be developed by passion for creating, because it was pretty much a a clone of stuff that was already around, it didn't improve the scene in absolutely anything, it was just another game.

The game had absolutely no "gameplay" or choice whatsover, it's a VN, it was almost a "manga done in RPG Maker", mapping was dreaful (one of the worst I've seen, EVER) and buggy as fuck (having to press a button to switch between maps? please.) They were fundamentally worse than the RTP maps, and the only reason the dialogue wasn't almost impossible to understand, and this coming from me! Was because a user from this forum was helping Impure re-write everything.

In my opinion, anyone that thinks Sarah's Life was a good RPG Maker Hentai game, immediately loses any credibility they would possibly have next to me. MY OPINION.

If you consider that Sarah's Life was a good game, I'm certainly not the person who's gonna argue with you. It's your opinion, I RESPECT IT, it's one of the things that people are actually entitled to have. I'm just pointing it out because people like to think every Patreon is Christ and has to pay for every other Patreon's sins, so I'm criticing it post-factum, the factum being, he took the money and ran. I'd also like to point out that if he was a serious developer, he would probably accept my help early on as I offered as he clearly needed guidelines, first page of his thread. He didn't need it because it was nothing but a cash cow, I've helped DOZENS of other Patreons around for the sake of the English H-RPG Maker community, absolutely free of charge or any type of compensation.

I've never seen a single thread or "studio" benefit so much from the mods of this forum. They've done a great job of keeping your thread free of truth and real criticism. You should rename your "studio" to "Artful Dodger" because I've never seen a "studio" dodge accountability like yours does.

You use the words "studio", "professional", etc.

As a fellow game developer, I still to this day don't understand why so little gets done month in and month out on your game. Your development time is atrocious and the fact its in the medium of RPGMAKER has turned this into a running joke. To this day I think your game is a scam and you seek only to slowly dangle a carrot at the end of a long string.

You shouldn't be surprised by the attacks and hate you're getting, because it's WELL deserved.

I'm going to put you on the ignore list because, honestly you have no idea what you're talking about and you're clearly just trying to take personal attacks, but the mods remove just that, personal attacks, that's not criticism, that's being a dick and expect people to take it politely, so no, that's not how it works.

We don't dodge stuff, we basically don't respond to idiocy, like rea_jak that went on every patreon creator thread spamming the same stupid message with the checklist and called our game 3D and vanilla sex in the process. Never heard the saying "if you don't have anything positive to say, don't say anything?" Yeah, neither have dozens of these kids, but I'm not the one who should mod them, so I report the posts to the competent staff of this forum to do it, simple. You obviously don't know the difference between being an asshole and being critical.

You can't just approach a total stranger and say "HEY MOTHERFUCKER, WHAT TIME IS IT?" And then go "no offense", that doesn't make it any less offensive, and thinking you have any reason to say what you're saying, like many people here that accuse us of stuff when they clearly have NO IDEA what they're talking about, doesn't make it any better of an argument. We get it, the game is not free, you're mad at it, let's start a personal crusade because if I can't have something, no one can.

Also, I'm not going to talk with you like "a fellow developer", I don't know who you are, and a hundred people here call themselves "developers", on the internet if you want to make a point, like saying "from a fellow developer", you're supposed to say what you developed and show examples so we can see if we can take your word for it, you're not a developer, you have 9 posts since 2011, you're a lurker, that's what you have behind your name, unlike us.

I am aware of hard line of average income dividing west and east EU. I did jump ahead and said most, pretty much forgetting about the east (no hard feelings, very personal reasons).
I should correct myself and say, 50% of EU countries. I am sorry for clouding myself, due to "stuff". I am not going to dodge something that I screwed up myself.

Still, based on their posts and what they say, I am assuming HS is from west EU. That's why I don't think they are milking if they can get much more by delivering the game.

Also, 1 year or 2 years isn't that long for small indie game to be delivered.

I wouldn't be shocked if their project management was just shit xD
Just saying, because where I am coming from, I always get the feeling that people don't even know what "project management" is :p

Personally I wouldn't mind a peek to know how it's managed :D
And if that's have been posted, I probably just didn't see it.

Because our project is much more ambitious than most other projects in the scene and we dedicated time to scripts, voice acting, polite mapping, menus, re-writing scenes that the community weren't happy with and making sure everything were according to standards that we believe to be higher than, well, pretty much almost everything that came out and didn't take 3~4 years to make (cough, virgin island, cough).

Also, minimum wage where I live is about 550€ or so.
 
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Just going to say this right now, you are bringing down many other projects at once, sure they might have been bad or stolen pieces or just shorter ones but aren't you just being like the rest of us "Haters" nick picking at a random few other projects and small mistakes, bringing out harsh criticism while at the same time trying to make out your own game is better than anything else that has ever been made in this sort of genre?

hrpgheaven don't have the best track record when it comes to doing PR or handling "haters". On the other hand, there have been multiple other devs on here who have come to their defense (something about honor among thieves) and shown a much more passive-aggressive side to handling things. When you consider that the game is done in rpgmaker, has a small team of people with their own roles, and that it's producing content regularly (as far as I know. Someone correct me if I'm wrong) then you have to assume that either a) the size and scope are well beyond most western porn games, or b) there is an attempt being made at setting themselves apart. In the end, whether or not the content produced is up to snuff is up to the people who fund the project.

You are being quite the hypocrite, at least they actually released an entire game that was playable without much need for a patreon to give them motivation to progress, you just seem to enjoy adding to the drama and providing sassy remarks to others when they give you criticism on your work and proceed to add them to the ignore list when you are corrected.

Releasing a bad game (and 3D at that) and asking for money by extension whether as part of the developmental process or to continue producing content doesn't automatically absolve the developer of having produced crap. hrpgheaven isn't great at PR; we've talked this to death already. The secret is getting more people to acknowledge their behavior and insist upon improvement if enough people are bothered by it. Bitching at them constantly about it doesn't do much aside add to the drama.

And Lord knows this thread has too much already.
 
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When you consider that the game is done in rpgmaker, has a small team of people with their own roles, and that it's producing content regularly (as far as I know. Someone correct me if I'm wrong) then you have to assume that either a) the size and scope are well beyond most western porn games, or b) there is an attempt being made at setting themselves apart. In the end, whether or not the content produced is up to snuff is up to the people who fund the project.
Thats one of the problems with HS - they dont release regular updates. There was 1(one!) patch since July, the second one should have been released 2 days ago but so far its nowhere to be seen with no explanation about the delay.
 
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