Re: The Ranting/Debate Thread
I've done some reading and research, and I reject the idea of a permanent Hell. The word Hell originally meant grave, and was just time spent away from God anyway. It's evolved into this place of eternal punishment however and that's not right at all.
God loves all of us, even the worst of people so why would he put his children through the eternal damnation of mainstream Christianity? I believe that we are ALL going to be forgiven, even people that don't believe in God. We may not all go to heaven, but I think that we will have a choice whether to stay on the reborn earth, or to journey into heaven, a personal heaven if you will, that reflects what makes us happy.
And if God loves us all, despite our flaws, how can we do any less? How can we not strive to be the best, nicest people that we can? I know I try, and yeah I slip up... a lot. But God knows that and he forgives me for my screwups. And it really burns m e up when I see people using religion as a way to justify the horrible things that they do.
Some of the things I believe are a little hard to put into words... But I also think that God can not be explained with human logic, since we are inherently flawed, everything we do is flawed... especially our logic. So when people try to logically explain the absence of God... well it doesn't work.
If I could teach one thing to my children about God... it would be that he loves all of us. No matter what we do, like a good parent should. And that though he may not always be making everything in our lives perfect... That's what a parent does. He has to step back and let his children make their own mistakes. You can't keep a child sheltered forever, and you can give advice (as he always does) but you have to let them learn. And a father also punishes. When a child does something wrong they have to be punished until they learn from their mistake. It is true that some people never learn, as flawed beings this is certainly possible. That's where the lake of fire comes in, in revelation. The lake of fire is not a punishment, but a baptism. You go through these flames, and come out pure. A spiritual fire, if you will.
And here's where we come to the super controversial part of my opinion

As a scientist I have to believe in evidence, and the evidence tells me that Evolution has occurred, and is still occurring... Evolution at this point is a fact and a theory. We know that it happened, but we don't really know HOW. We don't know the mechanism. I believe that God is the mechanism. He nudges life from time to time to make it go where he planned for it to go. I noticed in the bible it talks about the creation of the universe, and then the creation of man, and THEN the creation of Adam and Eve. (Adam actually meaning "first" in the original Hebrew)
I believe that God used evolution as his tool to create our world, and then created Adam and Eve to be his special children. Because the Bible also talks about the people that Cain went to live with that weren't mentioned before. And I think that when he sent the flood, it wasn't only to wipe out the sinful, and the Nephilim, but also to purify us back to the descendants of Adam and Eve.
There has been a lot of genetic studies done, showing that all people are related to a Genetic Adam, and a Genetic Eve. I don't know the particulars but it's convincing to me.
Anyway, I wanted to get this off of my chest. Hope I didn't offend anyone.